Sidhoni Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Before yesterday's match, he was good and was keeping things tight for Pune. But, Gayle just took him apart.
Needforspeed Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 He did mistime his first ball. . No timing' date=' no proper connection. Still went for 6.[/quote'] Most mistimings in Chinnaswamy stadium seems to be going for sixes.
rkt.india Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Most mistimings in Chinnaswamy stadium seems to be going for sixes. Small boundaries, high altitude.
Tiger80 Posted April 18, 2012 Author Posted April 18, 2012 He has already played an important role in PWI's wins' date=' against MI, defending a low score, he clean bowled Pollard.[/quote'] Last year he was brilliant,this year before yesterday match he was good.Now the question is with hardly any good first class record how will he make through Indian team ,if other spinners are their with better domestic record and equal IPL record
rkt.india Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Last year he was brilliant' date='this year before yesterday match he was good.Now the question is with hardly any good first class record how will he make through Indian team ,if other spinners are their with better domestic record and equal IPL record[/quote'] He has not played many FC matches yet due to health problems. He has very good List A record. FC record does not matter much when you play T20.
GautiMaan Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 He has not played many FC matches yet due to health problems. He has very good List A record. FC record does not matter much when you play T20. :agree:He had a problem with his eye in 2009,so too much should not be read int his FC record
rkt.india Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 :agree:He had a problem with his eye in 2009' date='so too much should not be read int his FC record[/quote'] He had paralysis. Bells Palsy.
akshayxyz Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Small boundaries' date=' [b']high altitude. not that high, that it would contribute significantly. Only about 500-600 mts more than Delhi, 400 or so more than Pune.
rkt.india Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 not that high' date=' that it would contribute significantly. Only about 500-600 mts more than Delhi, 400 or so more than Pune.[/quote'] Still it makes a different. Ball travels faster and far. Dharmashala is another high altitude stadium. Bangalore around 1000 meter, Dharmashala around 1300 meter above sea level. I have not seen more 6s hit than these two places in India.
asterix Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Still it makes a different. Ball travels faster and far. Dharmashala is another high altitude stadium. Bangalore around 1000 meter, Dharmashala around 1300 meter above sea level. I have not seen more 6s hit than these two places in India. That's an intersting theory. Never thought about it..
rkt.india Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 That's an intersting theory. Never thought about it.. That is not just a theory, that is a fact. Wanderers is another stadium where no target is safe. It is at higher altitude than both Bangalore or Dharmashala. We see a lot of sixes there too. Famous 438 happened there.
akshayxyz Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Still it makes a different. Ball travels faster and far. Dharmashala is another high altitude stadium. Bangalore around 1000 meter, Dharmashala around 1300 meter above sea level. I have not seen more 6s hit than these two places in India. I would imagine 5-600 wont make much difference....1-1.5 km does.. ( Delhi at about 300, Bangalore at about 900)..and most of the stadiums must be in 200-300 range (unless the coastal ones). There won't be much effect of gravity difference... it has to be mostly due to difference in air density - which should not change much in 5-600 mts. Yes, there might be some difference as compared to Chennai/Mumbai - which are almost at sea level. But, I would think 'real helpful effects' starts at above 1.5-2 kms and above...I am going by the altitudes that were actually helpful in breaking numerous Olympic records...
akshayxyz Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 That's an intersting theory. Never thought about it.. due to the decreasing air density and hence resistance. check out 1968 summer Olympics - numerous records were broken due to high altitude...and there are many more such examples. btw, high altitude is not always useful ( for those who are not trained to perform at high altitudes). Also, elite athletes train at high altitude ( before competition) - esp endurance athletes ( cyclists, marathoners etc).. and that helps them when competing at lower altitudes.
bajrang Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 i have a theory. he didn't bowl any googly in that over if i remember correctly. after first six which was miss hit from bottom part of the bat he went too full. he aint that big turner to go that full. first freaky six unsettled him. i was a big fan of rahul but that over made me appreciate ashwin more.
Sidhoni Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 That's an intersting theory. Never thought about it.. same here..
akshayxyz Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 does high altitude benefit fast bowlers too? [thinking out aloud - possible effects of lesser dense air on various variables] Over 22 yards the difference may not be significant, whereas over 75-80 meters a difference of 50-100 cm can convert some 4s into 6s. Also, if the fast bowlers are not accustomed to perform at high altitude, it can decrease their performance (get tired easily) - and that might offset the gains in speed by less air resistance. Also, less drag might mean different amount of swing, length of pitching - when putting same amount of effort, similar seam/grip position on lesser altitude.
Number Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 He has been a vital bowler so far for PWI. Against MI he got Pollard. Against CSK he got Du Plesis and Raina's crucial wickets when CSK were all set to go for attack. It's tough to find right length against Gayle cause usually bounce won't cause him much problem. Only Bhuvaneshwar Kumar was able contain him.
Yoda-esque Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Gayle hit Sharma for the first six when he had hit his natural length i.e. a bit on the shorter side .When he did that Rahul fell into the trap and bowled fuller allowing gayle to swing through ..
bajrang Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 ok here is what i dig up, last time when rahul faced gayle in chiinaswami this happend 8.1 Sharma to Kohli, 1 run, nearly a run-out, Kohli delicately dabs the ball towards short third man, sprints the single, he would have been well short if there had been a direct hit from Taylor, Taylor misses, and Kohli crashes into the bowler, Kohli has a sore shoulder, Sharma was hit in the back 8.2 Sharma to Gayle, 1 bye, an inside-edge takes the ball past the keeper for a single 8.3 Sharma to Kohli, no run 8.4 Sharma to Kohli, 1 run, powered towards cover, inside-out shot for a single 8.5 Sharma to Gayle, FOUR, once more Gayle is troubled by the turn, it spins into him off a length, gets an inside-edge after he skips away past leg, races away past the keeper for four 8.6 Sharma to Gayle, OUT, Sharma doing the job for Pune, he's got another big wicket now, Yuvraj has a big grin on his face, a length ball pitching on middle and strikes Gayle on the pads as he is stuck on the crease, it might have been a bit too high but the umpire was satisfied, no half-century for Gayle CH Gayle lbw b Sharma 49 (26b 4x4 4x6) SR: 188.46 i saw no spin this time around whatsoever hmmmmmmm
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