CG Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 i can think of Praveen kumar ,vinay kumar,jadega but dinesh mongia takes the cake .he has great support.once i heard ravi shastri say there is no young talent in india and when interviewer asked whom he would pick he said dinesh mongia.
Vilander Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 It's true man. OP said the player has been in the right place at the right time. Deffo not Sree. If he played for Aus, Pak or Eng he would be a leading spearhead in all formats of the game. Instead he is playing second fiddle to people like Dinda, VK, Ishant who are no where near as good as him. Only Yadav has shown promise but he is not in Sree's league. i am convinced that you are santha kumaran sreesanth. how is your toe doing bugger.
Dravid_TheWall Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 i can think of Praveen kumar ' date='vinay kumar,jadega but dinesh mongia takes the cake .he has great support.once i heard ravi shastri say there is no young talent in india and when interviewer asked whom he would pick he said dinesh mongia.[/quote'] Mongia did what was asked for him in 03 wc. He was handy with the ball and batted ok at no7. Jaddu and VK are crap. PK hasn't been utilised, he is more of a test bowler than ODI. But on flat pitches he may not cut it even in tests.
Vijay.Sharma Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 Have you seen our "bowlers" :cantstop: :cantstop::cantstop::cantstop: Sreesanth is widely regarded as one of the best bowlers to play the game talent wise and in a country like India where we have no decent seamer, he will always be welcome. Apart from an ageing Zaheer, Sree remains our only attacking seamer who can take wickets in all formats of the game. Also cricinfo reported a while back that the BCCI had asked Sree if he was fit for world T20 to which he said no. Sree also ruled himself out for world T20.You are using this word "talent" to big-up Sreesanth like as if he is a god. Now I am not someone who dislikes Sreesnath or for that matter his antics. In fact I believe he has been short changed by his captain Dhoni who has different standards for him and criticizes him in the open. Sreesanth did well under Rahul. Rahul knew how to get the best out of him. Having said that I think your dreamworld about Sreesanth's talent needs a reality check. You need to listen to Dravid's words about what constitutes "talent". Check it out - http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/current/video_audio/571122.html Stop this nonsense about Sreesanth being the most talented bowler of India ever. And stop this nonsense about Sreesanth being even more popular than so many other cricketers in the world. Even Mallus despise him.
maniac Posted July 6, 2012 Author Posted July 6, 2012 Can we call Irfan Pathan a No option player? I think the guy is talented but his filling up of the allrounder spot despite average performances in recent times makes him one. Jaddu,Yusuf on the other hand are not No Option Players because he they are easily disposable but he seems to be the closest we have to a medium-pace bowler + Hard hitting allrounder since Kapil
India-KXIP fan Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 Sreesanth Sreesanth Sreesanth. Sreesanth. Sreesanth
vamos_rafa Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 I always wanted Santh to do well, but day in and day out of reading D_T_W's daleels about his talent, that feeling has now died down.
vamos_rafa Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 You are using this word "talent" to big-up Sreesanth like as if he is a god. Now I am not someone who dislikes Sreesnath or for that matter his antics. In fact I believe he has been short changed by his captain Dhoni who has different standards for him and criticizes him in the open. Sreesanth did well under Rahul. Rahul knew how to get the best out of him. Having said that I think your dreamworld about Sreesanth's talent needs a reality check. You need to listen to Dravid's words about what constitutes "talent". Check it out - http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/current/video_audio/571122.html Stop this nonsense about Sreesanth being the most talented bowler of India ever. And stop this nonsense about Sreesanth being even more popular than so many other cricketers in the world. Even Mallus despise him. Yes Dhoni was indifferent to him by criticising him in the open. Maybe Santh is special in a way that he can piss someone off like Dhoni, who is generally diplomatic, SO MUCH that MSD can resort to such things. Dravid used Santh as an attacking option. That actually helped. He could have cemented his place after the '07 england tour, but injuries and antics did not help.His acts during the T20 WC and the ODI series against OZ really started taking it's toll on Sreesanth the bowler. It seemed all made up. And when he could not tour Oz in 2007-08 test series, it really started to wander for him. Though he did make many comebacks, but that time was ripe for him to cement his place. He did well in WI and then England so a good test series in Oz would have helped. Instead unluckily for him it paved way for Ishant, who also is going through the same, to atleast stay in the team as a third seamer. And I am talking only of tests. I don't think he should play ODIS. He's a special bowler for tests but now his days seem numbered, unless he really does something magical(read: not ayurveda).
Dravid_TheWall Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 And I am talking only of tests. I don't think he should play ODIS. He's a special bowler for tests but now his days seem numbered' date=' unless he really does something magical(read: not ayurveda).[/quote'] Check his ODI SR and number of wickets he has taken in just how many matches. Look at England bowling to Aus in UK conditions. Santh would be the only one for us who would threaten England in england in ODI's. PK would get swing but can be played easy in ODI. You need an attacking bowler, a strike one, in all formats of the game. He would complement our powerful batting lineup no end. Plus he has fire in his belly to get under opponent's skin. Look what he did to KP, Symonds, Inzy and many more. He agitated them so they couldn't play their normal game. All our bowlers are cannon fodder and don't take wickets, their body language pathetic. Then there is one man who is not scared to look the opponent in the eye and has superior skills.
Cricket Tragic Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 Check his ODI SR and number of wickets he has taken in just how many matches. Look at England bowling to Aus in UK conditions. Santh would be the only one for us who would threaten England in england in ODI's. PK would get swing but can be played easy in ODI. You need an attacking bowler, a strike one, in all formats of the game. He would complement our powerful batting lineup no end. Plus he has fire in his belly to get under opponent's skin. Look what he did to KP, Symonds, Inzy and many more. He agitated them so they couldn't play their normal game. All our bowlers are cannon fodder and don't take wickets, their body language pathetic. Then there is one man who is not scared to look the opponent in the eye and has superior skills. Like this? [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggMVO-OQf7g]Sreesanth's BEAMER 2 Pieterson ! - YouTube[/ame]
Dravid_TheWall Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 Bottom line is he got the message through! Anyway I was talking about in the test series, despite having crippling toe injury he bowled a spell to KP cranking it up to 88mph and with a lot of stares. The only bowler who was fighting. He started the series well, he would have continued had it not been for injuries.
Cricket Tragic Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 Bottom line is he got the message through! Anyway I was talking about in the test series' date=' despite having crippling toe injury he bowled a spell to KP cranking it up to 88mph and [b']with a lot of stares. The only bowler who was fighting. He started the series well, he would have continued had it not been for injuries. Sadly not a lot of wickets.
Cricket Tragic Posted July 8, 2012 Posted July 8, 2012 Ingerland have options in the middle order to replace Bopara but he is an Essex boy.
Vijay.Sharma Posted July 8, 2012 Posted July 8, 2012 I always wanted Santh to do well' date=' but day in and day out of reading D_T_W's daleels about his talent, that feeling has now died down.[/quote']I am kinda getting there Edit - D"T"W has done more harm than good for Sreesanth's status at ICF
adi B Posted July 8, 2012 Posted July 8, 2012 Ravi Bopara Mitchell Johnson Ashraful bopara has evolved as a fine player, he has a decent technique to carry him long enough.. mitchell johnson? u serious just look at his test nd odi stats nd then talk, hewas miles ahead of any indian bowler at his prime, now he is 30+,injury prone nd bowling crap , but his stats are very good
vamos_rafa Posted July 9, 2012 Posted July 9, 2012 Check his ODI SR and number of wickets he has taken in just how many matches. Look at England bowling to Aus in UK conditions. Santh would be the only one for us who would threaten England in england in ODI's. PK would get swing but can be played easy in ODI. You need an attacking bowler, a strike one, in all formats of the game. He would complement our powerful batting lineup no end. Plus he has fire in his belly to get under opponent's skin. Look what he did to KP, Symonds, Inzy and many more. He agitated them so they couldn't play their normal game. All our bowlers are cannon fodder and don't take wickets, their body language pathetic. Then there is one man who is not scared to look the opponent in the eye and has superior skills. How many times would you keep on using the same arguements. Who cares about looks and all ya.. For god's sake he's a fast bowler who is supposed to take wickets, which he has not for a very long time. Would have could have just does not matter dude. And do you really think that international cricketers are fools to be shaken with his antics every time? It can happen once or twice, but the way you write, it seems that the batters are afraid of a yeti running towards them.
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