ravishingravi Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 I suggest a "guantanamo bay" like set up maybe in Andaman & Nicobar Islands where we can set up a strict regiment for 4 year olds who obviously at that age have one thing and thing only in their mind, GOLD medal at the olympics. I am sure these chinese children choose to not watch TV or play with their friends or just do the kiddy stuff that kids do. I even suspect that they start training for the olympics within the womb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b555 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Rather than winning hundreds of medals by torturing small kids' date=' I prefer lesser no. of medals.[/quote'] It again depends yaar ki wether its torture or not in perspective of the kids who knows they might be really delighted to do it for their country , winning the gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSK Fan Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 very well put...instead of lauding something good' date=' we are hell bent on criticizing someone else..to excel in something you have to go the extra distance...and they are just doing the same[/quote'] I am sorry, but if India's success was dependent on forcing kids and parents I would spit at it. You might think torturing kids is something good to be lauded, I don't. Individual freedom should always be paramount. Thats why sports is exciting, because it's sports and not business or war. And can't believe people here think it's because we are envious of China that we are protesting. I would rather we win no medals if even one kid's freedom is compromised. But hey, some people are so morally bankrupted that they believe a kids childhood and tears are fair exchange for some medals at a game and should be lauded. For Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSK Fan Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 It again depends yaar ki wether its torture or not in perspective of the kids who knows they might be really delighted to do it for their country , winning the gold Where u ever a kid? Can one single parent on this site come up and say they are ok if their kids were the one in the pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted August 4, 2012 Author Share Posted August 4, 2012 it's funny that we indians treat the rest of our body differently from our brains. while we can cram for hours, forget playing sports, read books, go to so many special skills classes, burn midnight oil from an early age,scolded and beat by teachers and parents to get a coveted goal...that mental torture is quite acceptable but a stretching exercise (and many of the critics dont even understand why the weight is being put) is a cause of unbelievable concern. do you think if china was running a prison camp they would have invited a foreign media group and then they would hit a child in front of them...these are all isolated incidents blown up by media unaccustomed to see their team losing. china and other oriental countries have a long martial arts tradition and other countries do not understand their capacity to take pain, discipline, hard work and training.... Did you study that hard when you were 3 year old? How much pressure parents put on you when you were 3? Did your teachers beat you up with sticks when you were 3-4 year old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterTheVoid Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 I am sorry, but if India's success was dependent on forcing kids and parents I would spit at it. You might think torturing kids is something good to be lauded, I don't. Individual freedom should always be paramount. Thats why sports is exciting, because it's sports and not business or war. And can't believe people here think it's because we are envious of China that we are protesting. I would rather we win no medals if even one kid's freedom is compromised. But hey, some people are so morally bankrupted that they believe a kids childhood and tears are fair exchange for some medals at a game and should be lauded. For Shame. What a load of complete ****, save the crocodile tears for elsewhere! Yea, the kids will be beaten with iron bars if they don't win any medals. After that, they will be forced into a lifetime of hard labor in concentration camps as punishment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 What a load of complete ****, save the crocodile tears for elsewhere! Yea, the kids will be beaten with iron bars if they don't win any medals. After that, they will be forced into a lifetime of hard labor in concentration camps as punishment That is not far from what actually happens. Do a bit of research on it. It wouldn't be too hard to dig out some very basic facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 If any kid gets tortured in China, can the parents go to court of law in China? How is the judicial system in China? Can some one elaborate? How the judiciary works in China? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterTheVoid Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 That is not far from what actually happens. Do a bit of research on it. It wouldn't be too hard to dig out some very basic facts. Lets assume for a second the children are coerced into this training through physical/emotional blackmail. There is no way anyone can keep up this training, day in and day out, until the next Olympics through sheer blackmail. Absolutely no way. And why on earth would they purposefully harm the children like we are led to believe? If they get injured, doesn't all the money/effort/training spent on them go down the toilet? :idea: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Lets assume for a second the children are coerced into this training through physical/emotional blackmail. There is no way anyone can keep up this training, day in and day out, until the next Olympics through sheer blackmail. Absolutely no way. And why on earth would they purposefully harm the children like we are led to believe? If they get injured, doesn't all the money/effort/training spent on them go down the toilet? :idea: That is an inconsequential question once you consider the pride of state to be supreme and an "individual" to be irrelevant beyond his duty to restore or maintain the the pride of the nation. Let us be very clear. There is really no option provided to the child here. And please people show to me what alternatives do parents have given that they are not already one from common hotch potch of brainwashed communists. They are put through the assembly line and ones that come through represent their country and rest fall by the wayside. I have immense respect for Australian, US and other such systems which encourage sports ( extra curricular ) as a part of formal education and provide the best facilities and platform for the child to express himself in the form he prefers to. I recently read that one of the medal hopes for Brits, pulled out of the team to study fine arts in Oxford. Please tell me this option is available for Chinese Children Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 If any kid gets tortured in China' date=' can the parents go to court of law in China? How is the judicial system in China? Can some one elaborate? How the judiciary works in China?[/quote'] Yeah someone please enlighten us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterTheVoid Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 That is an inconsequential question once you consider the pride of state to be supreme and an "individual" to be irrelevant beyond his duty to restore or maintain the the pride of the nation. Let us be very clear. There is really no option provided to the child here. And please people show to me what alternatives do parents have given that they are not already one from common hotch potch of brainwashed communists. They are put through the assembly line and ones that come through represent their country and rest fall by the wayside. I have immense respect for Australian, US and other such systems which encourage sports ( extra curricular ) as a part of formal education and provide the best facilities and platform for the child to express himself in the form he prefers to. I recently read that one of the medal hopes for Brits, pulled out of the team to study fine arts in Oxford. Please tell me this option is available for Chinese Children Oh please Ravi, these children are not abducted off the streets, gassed and forced to train in sweatshop like conditions. If the child does not want to an Olympian, the parents can choose an alternative career. If the child does not get selected, he gets booted out anyway and goes on to pursue something else. Simple logic really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Oh please Ravi, these children are not abducted off the streets, gassed and forced to train in sweatshop like conditions. If the child does not want to an Olympian, the parents can choose an alternative career. If the child does not get selected, he gets booted out anyway and goes on to pursue something else. Simple logic really. We must really be talking of different China then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 We must really be talking of different China then. Wait till he tells you his fairy tales about North Korea as well.:hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterTheVoid Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Wait till he tells you his fairy tales about North Korea as well.:hysterical: Just to make you happy, the children are abducted off the street, gassed and forced to train in sweat shops. There you go, want a wow - e - pop as well? :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 North Korea's Key to Olympic Medals: Refrigerators For Winners, Labor Camp Threat for Losers North Korea's Olympic athletes are thrilling their countrymen with surprising success in winning medals and they are attributing their success to their Dear Leader Kim Jong Un. But others, including former North Korean athletes who have defected, suggest the success of the country's small contingent of athletes at the games may be the result of a policy of training them from a very young age at specialized schools, backed up by rewards like cars and refrigerators for winners and the threat of labor camps for losers. North Korea ranks 14th in the overall medal count, but fifth in terms of the number of gold medals with four. The country won two golds in men's weightlifting, one in women's weightlifting and one in women's judo. It also captured a bronze medal in women's weightlifting. The communist nation has 56 athletes competing in 11 sports. Its hopes for additional medals lie in boxing, wrestling, diving, table tennis, judo, and archery. The best Olympic result in the past was four gold medals and five bronzes in Barcelona 1992. Joyful residents in North Korea gather to watch the games on huge outdoor screens and public places with television connection. "After witnessing the gold medal at the Olympics, my heart is unutterably happy and my pride (in our nation) is growing," an unidentified woman said on state television news. That pride is exactly what the country's new 28 year-old leader Kim Jong Un is looking for. He has taken control of the impoverished nation of 25 million after his father Kim Jong Il passed away last December. Decades of famine have left many North Koreans bitter and analysts say this Olympic Games' fever is a perfect opportunity to generate loyalty and devotion among his subjects. Gold medalist Kim Un-Guk, who set an Olympic record in 62-kilogram weightlifting, dutifully attributed his triumph to their leader Kim Jong Un. "I won first place because the shining Supreme Commander Kim Jong Un gave me power and courage," he told reporters in London. An Kum-Ae, who won her gold in the women's judo 52-kilogram division, said, "I cannot be any happier than right now for I can give my gold medal to our great leader, Kim Jong Un." Woo-Young Lee, a professor at University of North Korean Studies in Seoul, says, "Athletes in North Korean society are revered as elites and they are managed, trained, and supported on a national level." Hand-picked by the Communist Party's Sports Committee, the athletes are trained at very young ages and registered at specialized schools which provide "daily meals and spending money at times," said Gu-Kyeong Bang, a defector living in South Korea. Bang was a student athlete in Taewondo in the North. Training involved four hours of "ideological education" per week aimed at cultivating loyalty to the leader. "They play with a different mind set," said another North Korean defector to the South, Kim Yo-Han. "An absolute loyalty towards the country and the leader is the core foundation of the North Korean athletes' sportsmanship." Kim's father was a soccer coach and mother was a rhythmic gymnastics coach in the North. Upon returning home, gold medal athletes like Kim Un-Guk and An Gum-Ae would be rewarded with handsome prize money, an apartment, a car, and additional perks like refrigerators and television sets. But most of all, they will be rewarded with a huge jump in social status with the title of "hero" or "people's athlete." But poor performances, especially losing to their archenemy nations like the United States or South Korea, have consequences. Rumors of athletes being sent directly to labor camps upon arriving home are not confirmed, but it is a common procedure to open "review meetings" after the sports events in which participants "assess" their own and each other's games, said Kim Yo-Han. If during that process the person is determined "disloyal" to their Dear Leader, the athlete is likely to be expelled from the sports organization and at times sent to labor camps. Yunjoo Lim and Sungeun Lee contributed to this report SRC Another propaganda against northies :giggle: Winners thanking their supreme commander is an absolute farce , imagine Dhoni dedictaing the WC win to manmohan singh or sharad pawar :clap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Rs8WqhwMdBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desi Cartman Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 People in china cant even practice a peaceful religion or even meditate and exercise they want and we have people here defending Chinese and suggesting these kids actually had a choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 People in china cant even practice a peaceful religion or even meditate and exercise they want and we have people here defending Chinese and suggesting these kids actually had a choice people defending china here are honest comrades :giggle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuge Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 man that video is really sick :(( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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