Spiderguy252 Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Listen to his podcasts, read his tweets, have a look at his articles. The guy clearly doesn't rate home wins at all - winning at home is no big deal, 'coz we gotta go abroad to England, South Africa and Australia and do well against the white man. No questions asked if those teams come here and lose. What a moron.
GautiMaan Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Manju is an idiot,one day he will say Sachin should retire,next day he cannot imagine the batting lineup without sachin.
jairamesh Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 He has a point. If he said winning at home is "no big deal" then it's compliment for India and saying the "white" teams are rubbish in India. But having said that, it's rather pathetic that after over 50 years of Test cricket we still haven't won a series in Australia. Not only that, but our away record still in last 10 years was just about okay which is why critics questioned our credibility of no.1 position. And similarly the sane ones criticized England. South Africa have been good at home and excellent away everywhere, and hence no one doubts them as no.1.
putrevus Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 He has a point. If he said winning at home is "no big deal" then it's compliment for India and saying the "white" teams are rubbish in India. But having said that, it's rather pathetic that after over 50 years of Test cricket we still haven't won a series in Australia. Not only that, but our away record still in last 10 years was just about okay which is why critics questioned our credibility of no.1 position. And similarly the sane ones criticized England. South Africa have been good at home and excellent away everywhere, and hence no one doubts them as no.1. He does not present it that way ,he presents in way which screams inferiority complex from him.
jairamesh Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 He does not present it that way ' date='he presents in way which screams inferiority complex from him.[/quote'] It's all about career options. He does want to put himself in pole position for cricket contracts with Nine Network (Aus) and Sky Sports (UK). I don't think the above networks would dare dream of asking Ravi Shastri nowadays.
ravishingravi Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 He is less delusional than other commentators if that is what you mean.
indiefan Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 I remember during some SL match, the co-commentator was asking questions trying to involve him more in the commentary. His response was silence. Very snobbish!
King Khan Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 He is a good critic and that made him not need to be necessarily liker's lickers. He was never among the top of our prominent side, so his Inferior view was always noticible. btw rating away tour achievment is valid, if #1 rank ever desired.
putrevus Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Hey you don't need to be homer like majority of Channel nine guys or guys like Nasser hussain or Botham but you cannot be condescending to your own team. If scoring runs and winning is so easy In India as he says why did he have such a low average himself. Winning abroad is important but that does not mean you demean winning at home.
indiefan Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Hey you don't need to be homer like majority of Channel nine guys or guys like Nasser hussain or Botham but you cannot be condescending to your own team. If scoring runs and winning is so easy In India as he says why did he have such a low average himself. Winning abroad is important but that does not mean you demean winning at home. Low average : He was not worried about runs, but more worried about proper defensive shots. It was so boring to watch him bat.
achilles Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Home wins don't matter much. What is important is winning away from home - Sourav Ganguly, after the 1st test.
The Outsider Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 What complex do you have thinking that England blanked us 0-4 on green tops? Retarded complex?
Magneto Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Maybe because India has won sooooo many matches at home and won close to zilch (specially against Aus and SA) abroad. Those are the final frontiers and Indian cricket wouldn't grow till we conquer them.
Lord Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 I can't remember when but Sanjay was once part of a Cricinfo chat where these guys were droning on about aggression on the field. This idiot chimed in his whiny constipated voice that aggression is alien to Indians. "We had Gandhi' date=' we don't do aggression".[/quote'] lol what
Spiderguy252 Posted August 31, 2012 Author Posted August 31, 2012 Maybe because India has won sooooo many matches at home and won close to zilch (specially against Aus and SA) abroad. Those are the final frontiers and Indian cricket wouldn't grow till we conquer them. Funny, I don't recall any journalist of late bigging up England's once in a lifetime chance to win the upcoming series against us.
Magneto Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Funny' date=' I don't recall any journalist of late bigging up England's once in a lifetime chance to win the upcoming series against us.[/quote'] Well, our point of views need not be based on how the English journalists look at their cricket. I guess they already know that their players are piss-poor at the subcontinent and are busy taking potshots at them all the time. Before 2003, neither did many Indian journos see Australia as the final frontier or anything since we got battered and bruised everything we went there. But the results of the 2003 Aussie tour, the next Aussie tour, the 2007 England tour and the 2010 Safrica tour had created expectations, and with India rising to the No.1 position many felt it was the right time for the final frontiers to be conquered. Nothing wrong with that. In 2001, the Australia team did create the brouhaha of the final frontier when they visited India. So, it's not that they don't consider winning in the subcontinent important.
Crookbond Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 ^ You are right there. Before 2001, a lot of teams used to tour India without being serious. England used to send sub-standard teams and the "real" cricket was the Ashes. Steve Waugh changed that complexion when he gave importance to an Indian series and called it the "Final Frontier". And what a series that was!
Ultimate_Game Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Every win is important but when you start doing well in one particular thing/area people start taking it for granted. That's human nature. E.g., back in 90s we would have loved to have a great odi side which would win WC and win matches while chasing from difficult situations. Now we have such a team but we are used to it and want the Test team to do well away as that's our final frontier so to speak.
Executioner Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 He has a point. If he said winning at home is "no big deal" then it's compliment for India and saying the "white" teams are rubbish in India. But having said that, it's rather pathetic that after over 50 years of Test cricket we still haven't won a series in Australia. Not only that, but our away record still in last 10 years was just about okay which is why critics questioned our credibility of no.1 position. And similarly the sane ones criticized England. South Africa have been good at home and excellent away everywhere, and hence no one doubts them as no.1. THIS
PaceAttack Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 He is getting on my nerves whenever he says, Indians don't dive, Indians don't hook or pull, Indians don't bowl quick, Indians don't celebrate much. I mean which era is he talking about? Gone are those days Sanju baba.
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