thongale Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 Malinga really fielded awesomely against Pakistan.dolly dropped' date='missed runout,misfield,u name it,proved me wrong:hatsoff:[/quote']It's useless to talk about him. The **** gets fatter by day and his wallet gets fatter at even bigger rate. His performances going down even quicker.
rkt.india Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 dhoni doesnt know how to handle a fast bowler. he will spread the field when they are bowling' date=' and they will be rendered ineffective[/quote'] A captain cannot do anything but go defensive if bowlers bowl allover the place.
Crookbond Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 It does not matter what Junaid clocks on the speed gun - he looks appreciably quicker than most Indian bowlers and is hurrying batsmen like Sangakkara who is in the form of his life. He moves the ball both ways and even a good player like Sangakkara does not have does not have no idea where the ball is going. Amazing bowling! :hatsoff: He opened up Samaraweera like a can of beans. :haha:
rkt.india Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 It does not matter what Junaid clocks on the speed gun - he looks appreciably quicker than most Indian bowlers and is hurrying batsmen like Sangakkara who is in the form of his life. He moves the ball both ways and even a good player like Sangakkara does not have does not have no idea where the ball is going. Amazing bowling! :hatsoff: He opened up Samaraweera like a can of beans. :haha: He chucks well and hits the deck hard.:winky:
Crookbond Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 He chucks well and hits the deck hard.:winky: I thought you will come up the chucking card but he's within limits of the rules. He does hit the deck hard. :agree:
rkt.india Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 I thought you will come up the chucking card but he's within limits of the rules. He does hit the deck hard. :agree: How do you know he is within limits?
Crookbond Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 How do you know he is within limits? Not guilty until proven.
bajrang Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 if the speed doesn't matter then we may as well call virat kohli, a fast bowler and heir apparent to jacque kallis.
Lord Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 if the speed doesn't matter then we may as well call virat kohli' date=' a fast bowler and heir apparent to jacque kallis.[/quote'] :facepalm:
Crookbond Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 if the speed doesn't matter then we may as well call virat kohli' date=' a fast bowler and heir apparent to jacque kallis.[/quote'] :blink: Let me put it this way - as long a bowler is effective (good SR + good ER) across most conditions, I will not bother about what speed gun and say Hey look that's just 133 kmph but you know this guy bowls 140 kmph so lets bring in the 140 kmph guy because he's 7kmph faster. That's BS because the extra 7kmph does not mean the bowler would be effective.
Old guy Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 :blink: Let me put it this way - as long a bowler is effective (good SR + good ER) across most conditions, I will not bother about what speed gun and say Hey look that's just 133 kmph but you know this guy bowls 140 kmph so lets bring in the 140 kmph guy because he's 7kmph faster. That's BS because the extra 7kmph does not mean the bowler would be effective. dont worry we have shami ahmed ready for this kind of bowling :cheer:
Old guy Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 btw guys topic should be.. does speed make it more likely that u will end up with average of under 25 and strike rate near 45-50 ?(dale steyn is monster here ) ??
Lord Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 btw guys topic should be.. does speed make it more likely that u will end up with average of under 25 and strike rate near 45-50 ?(dale steyn is monster here ) ?? ofcourse it's more likely if its backed by swing,line n length,reverse etc. in case of Steyn,the point is we have choice of one,a line n length swing bowler v a fast one who bowls all over the place n doesnt swing it,who'd u have?I'd have former
Old guy Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 ofcourse it's more likely if its backed by swing' date='line n length,reverse etc. in case of Steyn,the point is we have choice of one,a line n length swing bowler v a fast one who bowls all over the place n doesnt swing it,who'd u have?I'd have former[/quote'] yes if its between wayward quicky vs some one like philander i will pick philander but if u can have both...then ur gonna be atg :D btw mcgrath was no tundler.. with his height pace of 135 + was deadly ishant at his best in perth in 2008 series was also bowling at similar pace.... this ime he was 10 k quicker but 10 crappier :giggle:
PaceAttack Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 :blink: Let me put it this way - as long a bowler is effective (good SR + good ER) across most conditions, I will not bother about what speed gun and say Hey look that's just 133 kmph but you know this guy bowls 140 kmph so lets bring in the 140 kmph guy because he's 7kmph faster. That's BS because the extra 7kmph does not mean the bowler would be effective. Nope. Even an etc 5 to 7 kmph can make huge difference. I have played cricket at district level. Believe me.
Lord Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 yes if its between wayward quicky vs some one like philander i will pick philander but if u can have both...then ur gonna be atg :D btw mcgrath was no tundler.. with his height pace of 135 + was deadly ishant at his best in perth in 2008 series was also bowling at similar pace.... this ime he was 10 k quicker but 10 crappier :giggle: exactly,he was phaashtt n unlucky:giggle:
Lord Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 Nope. Even an etc 5 to 7 kmph can make huge difference. I have played cricket at district level. Believe me. ofcourse it does yaar if u dont lose other strengths.the question is of a tradeoff
msb1991 Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 btw guys topic should be.. does speed make it more likely that u will end up with average of under 25 and strike rate near 45-50 ?(dale steyn is monster here ) ?? Get a good 80mph bowler and give him 10mph and he will be a better bowler. However, a lot of people have had great records at a speed of 80mph. Walsh and Ambrose in England in 2000 were bowling around 80mph and both performed magnificently with seam movement and great accuracy. Mcgrath at the end of his career was averaging under 25 and that is when his speed was at its lowest. Pollock and Vaas also achieved good success at medium-pace. People like to interpret from this that they have this magical 'experience' which allows them to succeed in Test level at lower speeds but until anyone can give me an idea of what this feature consists of in reality, I won't take it seriously. Zaheer Khan in recent years has shown that mastery of swing can allow you to make the batsman look a fool and occasionally he is down at 75mph. He can bowl at 85mph but he has bowled entire spells at around 80mph where he has made batsmen look foolish.
msb1991 Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 Nope. Even an etc 5 to 7 kmph can make huge difference. I have played cricket at district level. Believe me. No offense but district isn't Test cricket. At Test cricket, batsmen play very high speeds on the bowling machine all the time. Those 5-7kph probably take the speed from comfortable to something a bit too quick for you to handle. For Test batsmen, you need to approach around 95mph before you are getting too quick for a batsman.
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