Prakat Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 The link I provided is for a general study of Himalayan rivers from the National Academy of Sciences, not specific to the Ganges. You should read the report to look at the exhaustive work done to get to the conclusions. It's irrelevant because the vast majority of the water in Indus does not come from the glaciers, which is the part India can control. As concluded in the report the vast majority of water in Himalayan rivers comes from ground water and monsoon, which India cannot control. I've clearly shown from the NAS report worked on by leading experts in the field that much of the source of Pakistan's river water is not glacial in nature and you keep on harping on the same point, which has been clearly negated. Show me where it says so about the Indus.
Precambrian Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Indian Muslims are also becoming educated. Growth rates are going down in their community as well. And I wonder whether religions will have any value in another hundred years apart from its true goal.. spirituality
Prakat Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Here, I've found pertinent information specifically about the Indus: The researchers behind the latest study began by calculating the importance of meltwater in the overall hydrology of five rivers: the Indus, the Ganges and the Brahmaputra in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, and the Yellow River and the Yangtze in China1. The authors found that meltwater is most important to the Indus, with a contribution roughly 1.5 times that from lowland rains. http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100610/full/news.2010.292.html Clearly, my point still stands.
CSK Fan Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Problem is not the hinduism problem is thinking like some poster mentioned bit of money education and social status some hindus quickly forgot about their religion.If any one stands up for hinduism then there will be callled saffronists fanatics or what ever we hindus are our own enemies thats why mughals english dutch ruled over us .I will always remember sayings of Lord Krishna if you protect Dharma it will always protect you. No, they are called saffronists fanatics because they go against every tenent of hinduism. The hinduism of these saffronistis fanatics is no different from Islam where people are told what to wear, how to behave, etc. They have no clue about the religion but try to push their agenda on others
exams Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 what about meerut,muzaffarnagar,haldia ,darbhanga districts.they are now muslim majority.should we held poll in every muslim majority area..wheather they want to live with india or not?...
Prakat Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 I am framing the issue in democratic terms with all the messiness that accompanies the word democratic. And so what if Pakistani strategic interests happen to be aligned with the popular will of the people in Valley? Does it delegitimise their support in some way? I could care less how oppressive the regime is across the border - how does it have ANY bearing on the reign of terror we witness in Kashmir? Kashmiris brave bullets to hoist the Pakistani flag at lal chowk. Do we hear of similar cases from PoK? Azad Kashmir might be heavily garrisoned but I don't hear a raging insurgency going on there against the Pakistani establishment. I am willing to admit I could be wrong about the popular sentiment but I think the GoI is so adamantly against plebiscite because they do infact know better. A government's natural state is to maintain control. No need to look for reasons why a Government won't fund a plebiscite.
ravishingravi Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 I think Pravin is right on why India is holding on to Kashmir with the whole water dispute. India is pressing Pakistan's nerve on Chenab water dispute and Balochistan. Its not rocket science that Kashmir has got relatively more normalized in last decade and infiltration has gone down. I also agree with Sarchasm's views but that just ain't happening.
Crookbond Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 The issue with allowing people to decide their national allegiance is that you hve to be consistent. Kashmir can set a bad trend and may lead to many such 'Azad' states.
Sarkar Posted November 13, 2012 Author Posted November 13, 2012 yesterday they asked for pakistan today kashmir after that another state only way to deal with Pakistan is cut all the ties off or migrate all people and leaders who wish to live in Pakistan.
exams Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 kashmir issue will not be resolved..i have known several indian army men..and their line of thinking is exacly like that...it is only at the NETAS and party level that all this talk of siachenkashmir,sir creek is discussed..indian army will not give a single inch of land to pakistan..i know several army men who are even ready to take back pakistan occupied kashmir..
PaceAttack Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 The above is only true for highly educated urban Indians which living in metros or big cities.70% India lives in villages and many other in small towns .Those hindu's are still very much religious .Plenty of state governments are imposing stricter and stricter punishments for killing cows.If Hindu's are not religious then for whom they are doing it? Table 2: Census information for 2001 Composition Hindus[24] Muslims[25] Christians[26] Sikhs[27] Buddhist[28] Jains[29] Others1[30] % total of population 2001 80.5% 13.4% 2.3% 1.9% 0.8% 0.4% 0.6% 10-Yr Growth % (est '91?01)[31] 20.3% 29.5% 22.6% 18.2% 24.5% 26.0% 103.1% http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_India As you can see from the wikipedia source that Muslim population has increased 29.5%, whereas hindu population has seen 20.3% increase per year. Christians have multiplied by 26% bcoz of the conversion and the high birth rates in dalit families. If this continues, Islam will overtake india in 100-150 years.
King Tendulkar Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 Table 2: Census information for 2001 Composition Hindus[24] Muslims[25] Christians[26] Sikhs[27] Buddhist[28] Jains[29] Others1[30] % total of population 2001 80.5% 13.4% 2.3% 1.9% 0.8% 0.4% 0.6% 10-Yr Growth % (est '91?01)[31] 20.3% 29.5% 22.6% 18.2% 24.5% 26.0% 103.1% http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_India As you can see from the wikipedia source that Muslim population has increased 29.5%, whereas hindu population has seen 20.3% increase per year. Christians have multiplied by 26% bcoz of the conversion and the high birth rates in dalit families. If this continues, Islam will overtake india in 100-150 years. Don't scare me like this:((
King Tendulkar Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 ^^^Lol. I am stating the facts. That is what scares me:nervous:
Ranvir Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 This whole Jammu and Kashmir thing has been a blunder since 1947. It should've been split up like Punjab and Bengal.
PaceAttack Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 That is what scares me:nervous: Ha ha. It will be interesting to c what the psuedo secularists do at that time. What the likes of Burkha dutt would do? What will congress do? What woule happen to this fraud Indian democracy? Will Ghazwa e Hind happen at that time? What would the feminists do if they are asked to wear burqa?
Crookbond Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 Good propaganda, I hope this helps people have good sleep.
Sarkar Posted November 15, 2012 Author Posted November 15, 2012 Good propaganda' date=' I hope this helps people have good sleep.[/quote'] You will get a job in ndtv as a reporter why dont you try your luck there.
Crookbond Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 You will get a job in ndtv as a reporter why dont you try your luck there. Thanks I will for sure. Happy?
SLICKR392 Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 This whole Jammu and Kashmir thing has been a blunder since 1947. It should've been split up like Punjab and Bengal. Sure thing. They ask for Delhi next and split that aswell.
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