suraj Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Is TOI the only paper using her name in reports? Aren't newspaper bound by some ethics regarding these kind of crimes? They are not using her real name- its a name given by TOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 They are not using her real name- its a name given by TOI Ohh ..ok. Did not see any disclaimer regarding that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakat Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Pravin Kataria........Your views are not just shocking and disgusting....but really frightening.I bet the six rapists also felt the same way about rape. I see where you are coming from and accept your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted_User_1 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Indian attitude towards women is archaic, medieval and shocking to say the least. There is a reason there are so many rapes happening when people in power are mouthing off insanities! India is a SHYT country, plain and simple! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidhoni Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 +1 recommended strategy in women's groups. Keep the cost/damage low. Stay alive and get the perps later. It's a patriarchal myth that satisfies the egos of weak men which says the physical act of rape (apart from dry penetration which can be painful) in itself is anything more than a nuisance. What women find most disturbing is the control aspect of it (this can be replicated by just holding the woman in a closed elevator when she is on her way to work) and if the girl is young, the psychologial damage. Not to be too crude but if a woman is into it she can exhaust a group of men and walk away happily. This truth is of course quite challenging to the novice penis. :hehe: :WTF: What is wrong with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooda Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Whilst this is interesting on principle- let these offenders get the **** kicked out of them by raging mobs- surely its a daft move. Police and law are inept so let the people do our work for us? Also how accurate is this list. What if it is wrong and someone incorrectly accused gets lynched... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/dec/28/india-name-shame-sex-offenders The Indian government is to publish the names, photographs and addresses of thousands of convicted sex offenders in a bid to tackle a wave of sexual violence against women, and head off growing anger at what has been seen as an inadequate and tardy response by elderly political leaders out of touch with a rapidly changing society. The controversial measure, announced by the minister of state for home affairs, RPN Singh, is to start in the capital, where angry protests sparked by the gang rape of a 23-year-old physiotherapy student 10 days ago are continuing. The victim of the hour-long attack, who suffered serious internal injuries, has now been moved to a specialist hospital in Singapore. Her condition remains critical. Police chiefs and officials are to meet activists and experts on Friday to discuss implementation of the scheme. "We are planning to start the process [of identification] in Delhi. Photographs, names and addresses of the rapists will be uploaded on the Delhi police website also," Singh told reporters. There are fears that identifying convicted rapists will lead to vigilante attacks. Others point out that with a conviction rate averaging 25% nationwide for rape cases, many charges taking several years to reach court and enormous numbers of incidents going unreported, the measure can only have a limited effect. Women's rights campaigners have however backed the idea. "It is true that there is a risk of such attacks but at the moment it is the victim who has to suffer the shame and social ostracism," said Ranjana Kumari, director of Delhi's Centre for Social Research. "She can't get married, for example. This will make sure the rapist is shamed. He won't get a job, or somewhere to live and will be cut off from society. This is a powerful deterrent," Kumari, who is also a member of the national commission for empowerment of women, told The Guardian. Authorities, already under fire for their failure to prevent the original attack, which took place on a Sunday evening in a bus moving on busy public roads, are now under pressure for their mishandling of the protests around India. Images of riot police beating back demonstrators carrying placards with slogans against violence who have attempted to reach parliament, the president's official residence and the official homes of top officials in the centre of Delhi, have reinforced the impression of an uncaring, out-of-touch government. Earlier this week, Abhijit Mukherjee, the president's son and an MP with the ruling Congress party, was forced to apologise after calling protestors "painted women" who "have little connection with ground reality" and "have nothing better to do". The incident has revealed deep fissures within Indian society. Described as "eve teasing", sexual harassment is endemic and rape systematically blamed on irresponsible women behaving in ways that are "un-Indian". Police routinely ignore complaints of sexual violence; senior officers have even suggested women fight rape by hurling chilli powder at their attackers. Bollywood films typically feature an initially distant girl who finally gives in to her determined, and often physically aggressive, suitor. "India is currently in a Twilight Zone, when the traditional social norms have lost their resonance while modern values based on individual liberty have not yet gained acceptance," said the financial newspaper Mint, in an editorial. The six men responsible for the incident in Delhi included a driver of an unlicensed private bus, a vegetable seller and an assistant in a gym. Most had grown up in deeply conservative parts of rural India before moving to the capital. One consequence of the focus on sexual violence against women in the media in recent days has been coverage of incidents that normally would either be relegated to local editions of newspapers or not be covered at all. A second alleged gang rape, this time of a 42-year-old woman, in a moving vehicle in Delhi made headlines. All major TV channels on Thursday reported the suicide of an 18-year-old woman near Patiala, a town in the north-western Punjab province two weeks after a serious sexual assault. When she told local police she had been raped by three men from her village, their response was to jeer, relatives said. Officials have admitted a case was only registered – the first step in a criminal investigation in India – after her suicide last month. And in Bhopal, a 21-year-old has told police she was raped in the office of a senior politician six weeks ago. Among demands by protesters are more severe punishments for rapists, including the death penalty. However laws protecting women are already on Indian statute books, the problem is haphazard implementation. Kumari, one of those who suggested the public sex offenders' register, said she was pleased by the government's move but disappointed that finances devoted to women's schemes had been cut at a meeting earlier this week. "How are they going to make all these ideas to protect women work if they are not going to fund them? There is a fundamental lack of priority and political intent," she said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooda Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 +1 recommended strategy in women's groups. Keep the cost/damage low. Stay alive and get the perps later. It's a patriarchal myth that satisfies the egos of weak men which says the physical act of rape (apart from dry penetration which can be painful) in itself is anything more than a nuisance. What women find most disturbing is the control aspect of it (this can be replicated by just holding the woman in a closed elevator when she is on her way to work) and if the girl is young, the psychologial damage. Not to be too crude but if a woman is into it she can exhaust a group of men and walk away happily. This truth is of course quite challenging to the novice penis. :hehe: Just to echo what everyone else has said- what kind of idiot are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidhoni Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Totally agreed with the move. But announcing this beforehand is stupidity. The families of those accused would just vacate the houses before the govt. can announce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganeshran Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Pardon my ignorance' date=' but why would an out and out Bengali be mouthing off a semi translation of a Tamil slang? [/quote'] I thought that expression could be shared in Bengali slang too :dontknow: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneto Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I thought that expression could be shared in Bengali slang too :dontknow: Nope. Never heard of it. He probably wanted to use the word 'dainty' but had an English :fail: Or, he thought he was Tagore reborn, and wanted to rhyme somehow and could think of no other word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger80 Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 And now mother of all comment from a woman MP Park Street sexual assault not a rape case, says Trinamool MP Kakoli Ghose , stirs row Close on the heels of a row over CPI-M leader's derogatory remarks against West Bengal Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee, a Trinamool Congress MP today courted controversy saying the Park Street incident in February was not at all a case of rape. "...That was a different case altogether. That was not at all a rape case. It was a misunderstanding between two parties involved in professional dealings. Between the lady and her client," TMC MP Kakoli Ghose Dastidar told a TV channel. Ghose Dastidar made the comment while reacting to the derogatory remarks made by CPI-M leader Anisur Rehman at Itahar in North Dinajpur district on Wednesday. Rehman had apologised yesterday after triggering a political storm. The MP claimed that whatever she said is as per the police report. Asked about Ghose Dastidar's remark, senior TMC leader and Panchayat minister Subrata Mukherjee told reporters at state secretariat, "You ask her." Describing the comment as appalling, CPIM leader Md Selim said "this is the mindset of the Trinamool Congress government." An Anglo-Indian woman was raped in a car on February 6 while she was returning home from Park Street. The woman criticised the TMC MP for her remarks, calling it shameful. "Making such derogatory remarks is abominable. I am deeply shattered by this. I was vindicated by officers," she said. The woman said that politicians should desist from politicising the issue and help the victims get justice. "We have entrusted our lives with them and voted for them. They should not make such accusations," she said. Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee had dubbed the Park incident as fabricated intended to malign her government. The case was cracked by Damayanti Sen, Joint Commissioner of Police (Crime), who was subsequently shifted as DIG (Training), Barrackpore Police Training College (PTC) in a reshuffle. The main accused in the case is still absconding. http://www.indianexpress.com/news/park-street-sexual-assault-not-a-rape-case-says-trinamool-mp-kakoli-ghose-stirs-row/1051483/2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suraj Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Just to echo what everyone else has said- what kind of idiot are you? calling him idiot is too light; this is beyond idiocy I am curious if this guy advises his sisters and mother to start sucking & ****ing men who grope them to "satisfy" these criminals and "walk away happy" Very easy for these internet idiots to be away from reality of the situation & write crap posts like his Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Go easy on Pravin folks, he is a level headed chap. Pravin - did you end up miswriting that post? Or was there something you could have explained better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Denting-Painting is an old school colloquialism quite common in Bihar/UP/Bengal. Could be used for a variety of situations, in this case seems like it was meant "women with make up who are far removed from reality". It was a poor choice of words, but perhaps a lot of youngsters dont understand many of these (dying) idioms and assumed the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tridibans_16 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 +1 recommended strategy in women's groups. Keep the cost/damage low. Stay alive and get the perps later. It's a patriarchal myth that satisfies the egos of weak men which says the physical act of rape (apart from dry penetration which can be painful) in itself is anything more than a nuisance. What women find most disturbing is the control aspect of it (this can be replicated by just holding the woman in a closed elevator when she is on her way to work) and if the girl is young, the psychologial damage. Not to be too crude but if a woman is into it she can exhaust a group of men and walk away happily. This truth is of course quite challenging to the novice penis. :hehe: :omg: Is that post for real???? WTH man..... And to L'Etranger, what kind of logic are you using bro? You are only seeing a situation from a man's perspective. Next you will say if they kill the victim to coverup for the crime, being outnumbered she should simply die. :facepalm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cevno Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Girs condition has worsened. Shocking if it was a political decision to move her. http://m.thehindu.com/news/national/rape-survivor-airlift-was-govt-not-medical-decision/article4246109.ece/?maneref=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FMqOO1lvL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakat Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 calling him idiot is too light; this is beyond idiocy I am curious if this guy advises his sisters and mother to start sucking & ****ing men who grope them to "satisfy" these criminals and "walk away happy" Very easy for these internet idiots to be away from reality of the situation & write crap posts like his This is the most emotional response so far. Roping in my sister and mother to take out your righteous indignation at my controversial post. I guess you must be a better man than me. @Lurker all in a day's work. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganeshran Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Kataria's post might have been out of place in a sensitive thread like this but biologically there was nothing wrong with his post A woman can experience multiple orgasms in quick succession, for a man to regain sexual desire immediately after orgasm is extremely difficult. i.e. except if you are Ron Jeremy or My Two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Kataria's post might have been out of place in a sensitive thread like this but biologically there was nothing wrong with his post A woman can experience multiple orgasms in quick succession, for a man to regain sexual desire immediately after orgasm is extremely difficult. i.e. except if you are Ron Jeremy or My Two cents. :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughCookie Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 But you are assuming that rape is being done for sexual desire..in indian context it is more about overpowering and dominating/humiliating the female.. the rapists are not looking for a quickie, but want to enjoy giving the torture..so Kataria's suggestions are not valid in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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