Find a few genuine fast bowlers- Greg Chappell

[rkt.india]

Swami Vivekananda said, ŵake up one idea. Make that one idea your life think of it, dream of it, live on that idea. Let the brain, muscles, nerves, every part of your body, be full of that idea, and just leave every other idea alone. That is the way to success. Indian cricket would do well to heed the sageÃÔ wisdom and make unearthing a dozen quick bowlers the immediate objective, nay, obsession. Success for Indian cricket will not come by accident. If consistent performance in all conditions is desired, then first there must be a vision. And then there must be a plan to realise that vision. I humbly suggest that the immediate plan must involve unearthing some enforcers who fill opposing teams with dread. Scour the country If I were part of the Indian think-tank, I would scour the country for the best fast bowlers with a view to building a pace attack that would cause rival batsmen to fear for their safety. Show me a batsman who relishes facing genuine fast bowling and I will show you a liar. I only ever played with one, Keith Stackpole, who enjoyed the prospect of facing fast bowling and was even upset if the opposition didnÃÕ have any good ones! The rest of us breathed a sigh of relief. Clive Lloyd knew this when, having suffered 5-1 defeat at the hands of an Australian attack consisting of Lillee, Thomson, Gilmour and Walker in 1975/76, he decided to build his own ÃÃuclear arsenal to gain revenge. I know India is different, in that conditions suit spinners more than fast bowlers, but the best teams that I have seen in the last 50 years have been colonised with quality fast bowlers. Much of the discussion about Indian cricket recently revolves around whether M.S. Dhoni should be replaced as captain, or which batsmen should replace the great triumvirate of Tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman as the pillars of the next great batting line-up. Hardly anyone is focused on remedying the real problem in my opinion: finding some genuine quickies to give IndiaÃÔ toothless attack a menacing edge. Pace and bounce Pace alone is not the answer. It is a combination of pace and bounce that generally does the trick. Good players eventually get used to out and out pace, but combine it with bounce and you have a sure-fire winner. If pace is in short supply, then go for bounce allied with movement in the air or off the pitch. Kapil Dev, Javagal Srinath, Zaheer Khan and Ishant Sharma have all shown that it can succeed at the highest level. Even on slow, low wickets, fast bowlers are still fast through the air. If the wicket is bouncing unevenly, bowlers who get the ball to the batsman more quickly and who hit the pitch hard will cause more angst than all but the very best spinner. Having found the best fast bowlers, I would then build the right combinations to work together. The obvious mix is a right and left-arm combination, but that is not the only way it can be achieved. A mix of bowlers taking the ball away from the bat with others bringing it back in, can work very well. There is a belief in India that Indians arenÃÕ athletic enough or built to bowl fast. Sorry, I donÃÕ buy that argument. The key to PakistanÃÔ success is not that they find the talent, but that they have the courage to select untried bowlers at Test level. These days with every IPL franchise having at least a handful of quicks, the selectors could quickly find a dozen promising pacers. In fact, that could be the easy part. Ensuring that they get to play first class cricket, (not just IPL!) are able to bowl 20 overs a day without breaking down and testing them on India â tours and in zonal matches against quality batsmen is the way to go. Sporting wickets It is a given that every association be asked to prepare sporting wickets the kind that Mohali regularly does. A good batting side is a bonus but the real stars are the bowlers who have to get you 20 opposition wickets in Tests. The Indian team will always be vulnerable to intimidation if they go around the world with a popgun attack. Is it any surprise that M.S. Dhoni demands helpful or under-prepared wickets at home from curators for his spinners? There are decent pacers around. My friends in India throw up names such as Umesh Yadav, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Varun Aaron, Ishant Sharma, Ashoke Dinda, Parminder Awana, Shami Ahmed, Atul Sharma :omg: , Abhimanyu Mithun among others. Whilst this is not an exhaustive list, I am confident that they are all capable of development, given faith and encouragement. Throw caution to the wind, pick some of these boys and ask them to go berserk. What is there to lose?

http://www.thehindu.com/sport/cricket/find-a-few-genuine-fast-bowlers/article4283446.ece

[rkt.india]

yeh kya hopeless avatar lagakar rakha hai' date=' aise fast bowler kaise milenge[/quote'] fast bowling is a hopeless job in India. Everyone talks about batsmen, fans, media, experts, ex-cricketers. Mr. Gavaskar do not leave a chance to praise Indian batsmen and criticize Indian fast bowlers.

[R.D forever]

I feel that this would have been the ideal time for guru greg to coach India with seniors gone.. Maybe if we had followed his "youth first " policy during his tenure , we would probably be not struggling like this .. He was preparing for the transition period

[Crookbond]

I feel that this would have been the ideal time for guru greg to coach India with seniors gone.. Maybe if we had followed his "youth first " policy during his tenure ' date=' we would probably be not struggling like this .. He was preparing for the transition period[/quote'] The first thought in my mind as well.

[CG]

I feel that this would have been the ideal time for guru greg to coach India with seniors gone.. Maybe if we had followed his "youth first " policy during his tenure ' date=' we would probably be not struggling like this .. He was preparing for the transition period[/quote'] What we have newer and lot worse version of seniors now Dhoni,Gambhir,Yuvraj, You got to be in diff world if you think dhoni will allow somebody like chappell to come in .:hysterical:

[bharat297]

Its been 4 years since the name Atul Sharma was mentioned and he still hasn't played. Genuine express pace bowlers have a pretty short shelf-life as it is and he's spent 4 years of it bodybuilding before he's even played a match.

[Old guy]

Its been 4 years since the name Atul Sharma was mentioned and he still hasn't played. Genuine express pace bowlers have a pretty short shelf-life as it is and he's spent 4 years of it bodybuilding before he's even played a match.

chappel knows more then us he must have mentioned atul only cos of some good reason no ?

[bharat297]

chappel knows more then us he must have mentioned atul only cos of some good reason no ?

He said his friends in India mentioned Atul.

[Old guy]

He said his friends in India mentioned Atul.

so? he is talking to media should atleast do bit of research this just shows most of time they are just opinions most of these guys have never seen any indian player bat in domestic matches they just see stats...i was just proving my point

[bharat297]

Clearly Chappell hasn't seen many of these bowlers. No one in their right mind would consider Abhimanyu Mithun a genuine fast bowler, especially someone who played with Dennis Lillee and Jeff Thompson.

[bharat297]

so? he is talking to media should atleast do bit of research this just shows most of time they are just opinions most of these guys have never seen any indian player bat in domestic matches they just see stats...i was just proving my point

Are you trying to draw a parallel between Greg Chappell mentioning that his friends in India mentioned Atul Sharma and Ian Chappell mentioning Harmeet Singh as a good bowler? Because we had an argument about that in another thread. I don't want to start it again but the difference was Ian Chappell was watching him play in a match. Greg Chappell is merely making a point that Indians claim that there are genuine quicks in the country and Chappell is merely questioning why they aren't being given a chance. He hasn't explicitly pointed out Atul Sharma. He just said that he is just one of the names that his friends in India mention.

[KeyboardWarrior]

BCCI should contact PCB for that, in tha name of AMAN KI AASHA :cantstop:

[express bowling]

fast bowling is a hopeless job in India. Everyone talks about batsmen' date=' fans, media, experts, ex-cricketers. Mr. Gavaskar do not leave a chance to praise Indian batsmen and criticize Indian fast bowlers.[/quote'] Gavaskar is also the first one to downplay the pace of the rare fast bowlers that come through. I remember a young Umesh bowling 143 k to 148 k in a spell and the great man commenting that he is not really express. I can't think of any other country's past player being so non-encouraging about a young quick. I guess one of the reasons why we have had so few quicks is this discouragement from important seniors who are mostly batsmen.

[diga]

fast bowling is a hopeless job in India. Everyone talks about batsmen' date=' fans, media, experts, ex-cricketers. Mr. Gavaskar do not leave a chance to praise Indian batsmen and criticize Indian fast bowlers.[/quote'] Stems from his inherent dislike for Kapil...

[rkt.india]

Gavaskar is also the first one to downplay the pace of the rare fast bowlers that come through. I remember a young Umesh bowling 143 k to 148 k in a spell and the great man commenting that he is not really express. I can't think of any other country's past player being so non-encouraging about a young quick. I guess one of the reasons why we have had so few quicks is this discouragement from important seniors who are mostly batsmen.

I remember that too. It was against WI or England in ODIs last year. Actually, he as not bowling in 143-148. He had just started his first over and bowled first ball at 137K. Gavaskar read speed gun reading and straighaway uttered. "He will never be an express, so he must try to swing the ball." and as he said that the nex few deliveries were all 140+ and that had silenced Gavaskar.

[panther]

Gavasker is speaking from experience, He knows more about cricket than this whole forum combined, let's check his speed by the end of 2013(2 year period After which Indian bowlers lose pace) and we will see.

[the don]

"The key to PakistanÃÔ success is not that they find the talent, but that they have the courage to select untried bowlers at Test level". yes time to learn from pakistan if you want to be succesful india .:two_thumbs_up:

[rkt.india]

Gavasker is speaking from experience' date=' He knows more about cricket than this whole forum combined, let's check his speed by the end of 2013(2 year period After which Indian bowlers lose pace) and we will see.[/quote'] It is aleady 2 years and he has only gained pace. He debuted in 2010 in Zimbabwe and got better since then with improvement in pace too.

[CG]

I remember that too. It was against WI or England in ODIs last year. Actually' date=' he as not bowling in 143-148. He had just started his first over and bowled first ball at 137K. Gavaskar read speed gun reading and straighaway uttered. "He will never be an express, so he must try to swing the ball." and as he said that the nex few deliveries were all 140+ and that had silenced Gavaskar.[/quote'] And add the idiot bhogle who whenever a new guy debuts just keeps saying he is said to be 150ks in domestic but most turn out to be 130k and keeps mouthing ****.

[express bowling]

Gavasker is speaking from experience' date=' He knows more about cricket than this whole forum combined, let's check his speed by the end of 2013(2 year period After which Indian bowlers lose pace) and we will see.[/quote'] You are missing the point. I am saying that one of the reasons why Indian pacers have reduced pace maybe because the past players, mostly batsmen, always discourage them and try to convince them to focus on only swing as they will never be fast in the long run. This is in sharp contrast to someone like an Akram who is trying to talk up a Shami, pacewise, and this might actually result in him having more self belief and end up bowling with pace and effort. Fast bowling is a strenuous thing and needs motivation.