G_B_ Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 If we are to win this' date=' it has to be by an innings. Dhawan and Vijay should attack right from the start, like they did today. We have Kohli and Dhoni coming in, who can score at 6 RPO easily. It is going to be really difficult, but we can get a lead of around 200 and then bowl them out. But this is going to take some bowling.[/quote'] The ball is turning. Steve Smith especially. I think if India hold onto their catches (i am talking kohli at slip and pujara at short leg) india do have a decent chance.
Straight Drive Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 Score like in ODI for 60 overs. First session to break even and then lead accumulation in second. So about 150 run lead. Don't declare late in third session as it will help Aussies secure a draw. Also, a full sessions bowling will enable Dhoni to give a spell each to every bowlers rather than swap bowlers in short spell . Normal spells for each bowler would help them settle to the line and length as well as enough time to work out the batters in each spell.
saneindian Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 A result looks difficult. Pitch is becoming flatter and slower, doesn't look like crumbling with all that clay holding it together despite it being a dry wicket. Run rate will slow down when Dhawan gets out. Plan to score around 300 in 85 overs leaving about an hour tomorrow and 98 overs on last day to get the Aussies out. An Aussie collapse looks improbable on this wicket though.
Sachin=GOD Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 should play some aggressive cricket from both ends and match their score and declare it in first session itself(possible with 30+ overs and 10 wks in hand) then try and get their 10 wks ASAP. we may get only around 40 overs to chase around 300 if we can put ourselves in a better situation its better then go for it in the final innings that would be unwise IMO. In the 1st session even if they play very fast, they won't get a lead of more than 50-60 runs and it would mean a certain draw.
SLICKR392 Posted March 16, 2013 Author Posted March 16, 2013 ^ Yep. 50-60 lead and declare. But manhoos Dhoni might go for 300-400 runs lead and declare it after Tea, Day 5.
Pagalpanti Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 Trial by 125 runs and look for a lead of 150 runs at least. So say 300 more runs should be possible in 2 sessions tomorrow given we have 10 wickets in hand. Only if we score at 4.5-5 rpo like today. And have a good 30-40 overs of bowl at Aussies. Don't think we can bowl out Aussies in a day, to give us best chance would be to declare positively.
G_B_ Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 Trial by 125 runs and look for a lead of 150 runs at least. So say 300 more runs should be possible in 2 sessions tomorrow given we have 10 wickets in hand. Only if we score at 4.5-5 rpo like today. And have a good 30-40 overs of bowl at Aussies. Don't think we can bowl out Aussies in a day, to give us best chance would be to declare positively. +1 I think we can chase upto 6 runs per over in the 4th innings.
JaFanatic Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 that would be unwise IMO. In the 1st session even if they play very fast' date=' they won't get a lead of more than 50-60 runs and it would mean a certain draw.[/quote'] m not at all talking about a lead just match their score and get ourselves as many as overs as possible to get thier wks and chase their score
Sidhoni Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 Just quoting myself from the other thread : If we are to win this, it has to be by an innings. Dhawan and Vijay should attack right from the start, like they did today. We have Kohli and Dhoni coming in, who can score at 6 RPO easily. It is going to be really difficult, but we can get a lead of around 200 and then bowl them out. But this is going to take some bowling.
saneindian Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 Some fanciful thinking on the thread, 300 in 60 overs, 6 rpo in 4th innings and best of them all Dhoni declaring early
Sachin=GOD Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 Just quoting myself from the other thread : completely agree. If we are even thinking of any scenario in which we might have to bat again here then I think it would only mean a draw. But everything depends on how well these two play in the 1st session tomorrow - if we have a good 1st session tomorrow then anything is possible in this match otherwise its a draw.
adi B Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 knowing dhoni and fletcher,bat out till lunch of day 5 (with many batsmen playing for personal milestone) @ 3 per ovr so that a loss is completely out of equation and then hope aus make mistakes while batting..so it`ll be a draw
Lord Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 Its a draw.dont expect them to go for it,Dhoni settled for a draw even when we were down 2-1 v England
SLICKR392 Posted March 16, 2013 Author Posted March 16, 2013 Dhoni needs to come in if Dhawan falls, its a must.
saneindian Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 Its a draw.dont expect them to go for it' date='Dhoni settled for a draw even when we were down 2-1 v England[/quote'] Settled for a draw? lol we fought well not to lose it 1-3
Texy Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 Dhoni needs to come in if Dhawan falls' date=' its a must.[/quote'] Absolutely but unlikely...would love for Dhoni to come up the order
Crookbond Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 Will Dhoni now select Ojha now that there will be one more right hand batsman in the line up? :hmmm: He does but the BEST bowler ends up making a "century" as is so typical. :winky:
Lord Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 Settled for a draw? lol we fought well not to lose it 1-3 what?we were in a position to force the win on 4th day which we absolutely needed.but some strange tactics meant we couldnt
SLICKR392 Posted March 16, 2013 Author Posted March 16, 2013 what?we were in a position to force the win on 4th day which we absolutely needed.but some strange tactics meant we couldnt
saneindian Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 what?we were in a position to force the win on 4th day which we absolutely needed.but some strange tactics meant we couldnt Perhaps you are referring to that one hour when we scored nothing. Not sure how much of a difference it would have been as England never looked lke getting out on that day 4 and 5 wicket. We were 50-4 when we batted and one wicket away from a collapse and a 3-1 loss.
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