jairamesh Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 I loathed India from childhood http://www.thehindu.com/arts/books/i-loathed-india-from-childhood/article4329667.ece?homepage=true David Headley, who surveyed targets for the 26/11 attacks, gave Indian interrogators a step-by-step account of his training with Laskhar-e-Taiba. The details are in a new book, Headley and I, written by S. Hussain Zaidi with filmmaker Mahesh BhattÃÔ son Rahul Bhatt, whom Headley befriended on his visits to India After a couple of days of interrogating David Headley, Behera thought he had more or less figured him out. He knew that Headley would tell him much of what he knew and had done, primarily because he had a boastful streak in him. All Behera had to do was egg him on. So far, the strategy was working beautifully. õell me about your training, Mr Headley, Behera said. úou clearly had a lot of training with Lashkar-e-Taiba, and they must have trusted you a lot. Headley beamed. úeah, they trusted me. ôo what kind of training did you get exactly? After the first two preliminary stages the Daura-e-Amma and Daura-e-Sufa I progressed to the next. The training became much more practical, and I learned to translate my acceptance and belief in Salafi Islam and radical ideology into action. In April 2003, I volunteered for the Daura-e-Khaassa in Muzaffarabad in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir. There were thirty or forty of us in the group that underwent the Daura-e-Khaassa training, which lasted for a full three months. During that time, we were taught the importance of being soldiers of Islam... But the one thing that some individuals in the group had trouble dealing with was the bloodshed. They kept asking themselves, and each other, and our masters and trainers and teachers, if it was acceptable to kill human beings, and if so, why. Movies on atrocities This was what Daura-e-Khaassa was all about. The earlier Dauras were orientation programmes, this was the real induction into jehad. We were told that it was not just okay to kill others, it was actually an act of worshipÃÊt needed to be done to avenge the wrongdoings against Muslims. The LeT established this primarily by showing us very gory and violent movies about atrocities against Muslims. One of those movies that I still remember vividly was the one on Babu Bajrangi and atrocities in Gujarat. He was involved in killing innocent Muslims in Gujarat; he had been caught on a hidden camera saying that he didnÃÕ mind if he was hanged, but before he was, he wanted to be given a couple of days so he could go and kill as many Muslims as he could. Despite overwhelming evidence, the Gujarat state and the Indian government did not act against him. My hatred for and rage at India increased manifold during those three months. We were also shown some of the innumerable inflammatory speeches made by the Maharashtrian goondas of the Shiv Sena and their supremo Bal Thackeray. Hafiz Saeed was the one who showed us the damage that Bal Thackeray had done to the Muslim ummah. I know now that they were shown to us primarily to motivate us. And after everything that we saw on those videos, all our reservations were washed away, and we were fuelled by an unnatural, powerful rage. As it is, I had nursed a hatred against India ever since I was a child and my school had been bombed, but now, my loathing and animosity towards it were reinforced and with good reason. Finally, after graduating from the Daura-e-Khaassa, we were taken to a mountain in Muzaffarabad. At first, I thought the next part of our training would be in a cave, as it looked like that was where we were headed. We soon found out that it was much more. It was a self-sustained branch of the Lashkar-e-Taiba. The sheer grandeur of the place took my breath away it appeared to be more like a palatial fortress than anything else. It was a safe house, and it was called Bait-ul Mujahideen, meaning the ÃÉouse of the crusaders? Whenever mujahideens would cross over from IndiaÃÔ Jammu and Kashmir or from Pakistan, they would be stationed here and taken care of. Here, they lived a life of luxury until they were ready to leave, or were given details of their next mission. They would then cross the border to India. I also met a frogman while I was in Muzaffarabad; he was introduced to me as Abdur Rehman. He seemed to be from the Pakistan Navy. In that Lashkar camp, Bait-ul Mujahideen, we received intensive all-round training. The emphasis was primarily on urban warfare, and we were trained in two-man, body-attack operations. We learned to cover our partners and work with them seamlessly. We were taught all kinds of urban warfare skills two-man entry, two-man firing from cover, and covering jams and reloads. We also had situational training stair work, hall work, combat, first aid, and even unarmed hand-to-hand combat. We were taught to shoot with all kinds of weapons pistols, rifles, shotguns, everything. I handled the M-16, Heckler and Koch, FNAR rifles, Steyr AUG, submachine guns and even a Dragunov sniper rifle. I was also taught how to use hand grenades and antipersonnel fragmentation grenades. But the one weapon that all of us had to master was the AK-47 and its derivatives. I mentioned the name of Abu Kahafa earlier. He was present at the safe house. He is one of the fattest fellows IÃ×e ever seen. But appearances are deceptive, as I soon found out. Despite his obesity, he was extremely fit, as strong as a bull, and had amazingly sharp reflexes. I went through various modes of combat with him, including hand to hand and using knives. Apart from him, there were several others who gave us weapons training, and they were all from the ISI, PakistanÃÔ Special Security Guard, or the counter-terrorism unit of the Pakistan Army, the Zarar Company. But their identities were never revealed to us at any point of time. We went through another Daura, called Daura-e-Ribat, meaning communication. This is a derivative of the root word rabt, meaning connect. Another important skill we had to learn was counter-interrogation techniques. We had to keep our minds in perfect shape in all kinds of situations so that if we were ever captured alive, we would be able to deflect the attention of our interrogators, and confuse and mislead them. Fitness regime There was also a strict fitness regime that we had to stick to. Every day, we had to run five kilometres, do twenty pull-ups, thirty dips and forty push-ups, along with abdominal workouts. It was essential to be physically fit, to handle the different kinds of guns. In fact, I was also taught to handle a shotgun and an RPG, a rocket launcher. These are heavy weapons, so to carry them on the shoulder and fire them required us to be at the peak of our fitness, as well as strength. They refused to teach me how to assemble bombs. I requested my Lashkar masters and the other trainers, but they were firm about it. So I did not get any training on assembly of explosive devices. After many months of intensive training, our Lashkar masters took us to a place called BayÃÂt ul Rizwan, which refers to an incident that took place during the time of Prophet Muhammad. The new Muslims of that time had sworn allegiance to the Prophet under a tree. It is said that whoever makes this gesture of pledging allegiance to Prophet Muhammad will go to heaven. That is why it is called BayÃÂt ul Rizwan, meaning ÃÕhe allegiance to heaven? My Salafi masters said that this was a solemn moment, and that we would have to take a momentous decision that would change our lives forever. He said that paying this fealty meant taking an oath of allegiance. That was what BayÃÂt meant. But there was no hesitation in any of us. All of us took the BayÃÂt and swore our loyalty to jehad. By now, we looked like soldiers. We had become hardened jehadis, and were fully committed to the cause. ©¸e were now armed and ready to strike mercilessly at the behest of our masters. My appearance too had changed completely by this time. Not only did I not have any excess fat, I was wearing only Pathani suits and had grown a long, flowing beard, which made me look like a member of the Taliban. One day, one of my Lashkar masters took me aside and told me that there was one more Daura that I needed to do, that everyone like me, of my calibre, had to do. Hobnobbing with the Lashkar had awakened me to my spiritual side. But the Daura-e-Tadrib ul Muslimeen in July 2004 gave my spirituality a new momentum. This was at a seminar in Abbottabad. I am sure all of us in this room know about Abbottabad, which houses a large military base. There were many speakers at the seminar. However, to me, the star speaker was Maulana Masood Azhar. Yes, IÃÎ sure the name strikes a chord. It is the same Maulana Masood Azhar that the Indian government had to release in exchange for the passengers of IC-814 in Kandahar. Hearing him speak was a celestial, deeply spiritual experience. Throughout his discourse, I was riveted. As Azhar was wrapping up his speech, he said to us that our lives had no real meaning, no real purpose, and they should be spent in the cause of jehad. From then on, I was ready to die for my Muslim brothers. After the seminar, I approached Azhar and told him that I wanted to go to Kashmir to fight alongside my brethren. I told him that I had become leaner, fitter, was much better trained than before, and that I was totally inspired and motivated, and wanted to lay down my life for the cause of jehad and for Islam. However, the answer was once again the same. Kashmir was a very difficult terrain, Azhar told me, for a man of my age who had already crossed forty. He tried to cheer me up by telling me that I could go anywhere else and that I should be more patient. He hinted that I might soon be given a mission to carry out in India. In 2005, I was sent to the FATA region in Pakistan, where I met Ayub Afridi, one of the biggest and most powerful drug lords there. I once mentioned his name to Rahul Bhatt, but it was mostly to impress him. I am sure you must have heard from him, Mr Behera, so thereÃÔ no need to look so surprised. By 2005, I had finished my training and had become a full-fledged member of the LeT, a jehadi dedicated to the cause of true Islam. I was itching to start work, and was looking forward to the mission in India that I had been told might be given to me. Within a few days, I was introduced to a retired brigadier of the ISI. They never revealed his full name to me, I only knew him as Retired Brigadier Riyaz. Riyaz lived in a palatial house in Muzaffarabad, reminiscent of all those palaces that people see in movies and photographs. There were times when I was summoned to the house along with Zaki, one of my LeT masters. It was then that I realized the equation between PakistanÃÔ ISI and the LashkarÃÕhey were like master and subordinate. Zaki, who was a top figure in the LeT, the man in charge of all operations, was just a subservient servant in front of Brigadier Riyaz. I figured out that Riyaz was not the only man in the ISI who was dealing with our LeT handlers. Like him, Major Iqbal too was a very powerful and influential figure. His man in the LeT was Hafiz Saeed. Similarly, Major Samir handled biggies like Abu Kahafa, Sajid Mir and others. It was a strange marriage, and I knew that the LeT despised it. To them, jehad was most important. But the ISI were really not interested in jehad. They were only interested in developing and executing strategies to destabilize India. Change of name Finally, the ISI masters decided that I was ready for jehad, and my first mission. But they told me that there was one crucial thing I had to do first. I had to go back to the US and change my name. I was still Daood Gilani, and a Daood Gilani flying to and fro between Pakistan and other countries would get noticed, especially in the aftermath of 9/11. I was instructed to choose a name that would not raise any suspicion. Sometime in September 2005, I called my attorney, Donald Drumpf, and told him that I wanted to change my name. He was surprised, but I told him that I had grown tired of Daood Gilani and the consequent persecution, and wanted to change my name to one that would sound as if it belonged to a white American. He believed what I said. Finally, though my social security number remained the same, I changed my name to David Coleman Headley, using my motherÃÔ middle and last names. At last, I was ready. This was the first time I was leaving the country on a mission, and I was leaving it a new man, as David Coleman Headley. After all those years of nursing my hatred, it was only fitting that my first mission was going to be in and against India.
CSK Fan Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 This is what blind hatred of another country from childhood does. Unfortunately, we have lot of these on this site too
Rohit S. Ambani Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Pakistan is gone too far yaaro, no matter how many of them study in oxford, no matter how much $s expats send back home, no matter they were given worlds most fertile land and so many rivers to fulfill the need of few millions. Bottom-line is they lack 'Identity' and are very very insecure. They desperately wants world to recognize them as Arabs.
Iconoclast Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 This is what blind hatred of another country from childhood does. Says in the article that his school was bombed by India.
Iconoclast Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 This is what blind hatred of another country from childhood does. Says in the article that his school was bombed by India. As it is, I had nursed a hatred against India ever since I was a child and my school had been bombed, but now, my loathing and animosity towards it were reinforced and with good reason.
Sean Bradley Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Says in the article that his school was bombed by India. If you seed hatred in your kids they will result in David Headley, a.k.a. Dawood Sayyed Gillani, when children in India are taking math and science lessons in grade 5th, you guys send your children to madrassas to learn about jihad, and the few kids who complete their education move out of country sighting security reasons like you have, i pity your country and the people there, Gandhi made a blunder in 1947 by dividing the nation, sadly you guys never got up after that, you struggled all the way through these years, your economy is gone to the dogs, so are your masses.
Clarke Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Says in the article that his school was bombed by India. He waited 40 yrs to avenge that :hmmmm2: BTW what did they teach in that school wrt India :hmmm:
SLICKR392 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Says in the article that his school was bombed by India. So he takes revenge by massacring us?
Desi Cartman Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Then the buggers whinge that they dont get visas to watch kirkut ... no wonder every country is reluctant in giving pakistanis visa. As for the school bombing its not like only India throws bombs at pakistan .. this happens from Pakistani side as well.
Desi Cartman Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Says in the article that his school was bombed by India. So you ignored the whole network of training people so they could kill Indians and only read one line :two_thumbs_up:
Dumbbells Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 If you seed hatred in your kids they will result in David Headley' date=' a.k.a. Dawood Sayyed Gillani, when children in India are taking math and science lessons in grade 5th, you guys send your children to madrassas to learn about jihad, and the few kids who complete their education move out of country sighting security reasons like you have, i pity your country and the people there, Gandhi made a blunder in 1947 by dividing the nation, sadly you guys never got up after that, you struggled all the way through these years, your economy is gone to the dogs, so are your masses.[/quote'] I don't have 1% sympathy for them. They would destroy themselves. We just have to wait and watch.
Iconoclast Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 So you ignored the whole network of training people so they could kill Indians and only read one line :two_thumbs_up: No I just think the title is a bit disingenuous. Most Pakistanis don't hate or even care much about India.
ravishingravi Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 No I just think the title is a bit disingenuous. Most Pakistanis don't hate or even care much about India. I am sure that is true. But ones that do, it defines them, and that is relatively huge number.
Desi Cartman Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 No I just think the title is a bit disingenuous. Most Pakistanis don't hate or even care much about India. Yaar u have training camps to program and train terrorists, have rallies against India, people donate money for anti India activities, 10 years ago your country's army crossed the loc and now u are saying no one cares about India ?
vayuu1 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 No I just think the title is a bit disingenuous. Most Pakistanis don't hate or even care much about India. To aap kya Indian forum par dhuee dikhane aaye hai:giggle:
Clarke Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 No I just think the title is a bit disingenuous. Most Pakistanis don't hate or even care much about India. That's rubbish! The majority of the middle/upper class (that can afford to have an opinion) will hold strong views, mostly negative about the other side in both cases. The bloody partition and subsequent wars have obviously had a major impact on general opinion. http://www.indianexpress.com/news/only-13--indians-hold-favourable-opinion-on-pakistan-pew-research/1000660 Now you can say that everyone isn't willing to bomb India, but the school theory is a BS reason.
Crookbond Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 No I just think the title is a bit disingenuous. Most Pakistanis don't hate or even care much about India. Imran Khan - "The atmosphere I grew up in Pakistan ... taught us to hate India. But, when I went to India all that changed looking at the people there. At one point of time, my best friend was an Indian."
Clarke Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 No I just think the title is a bit disingenuous. Most Pakistanis don't hate or even care much about India. Here's some of your don't care attitude (India ki barbadi, Hindu ki barbadi, India teri maut aayi etc) :giggle: This one's not for your minorities I hope
CSK Fan Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 But the majority/half of Indians here seem to hate Pakistan too with an equal passion
Clarke Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 But the majority/half of Indians here seem to hate Pakistan too with an equal passion forum ko chaatne ka kya ? We don't train youngsters on suicide missions even if some Congressi told you that.
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