Lord Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 In current form' date=' Sehwag should go and play with his son imho[/quote'] hes struggling against moving new ball,but can still be good against spinners and old ball
Number Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 You need good technique too. Just slambang won't work. Sehwag's footwork has gone to dogs, look how far outside the crease Sachin was playing(Steyn was so pissed and shouted I'll smash your ****ing head) to counter late-swing and was still stretching out whenever he played on the front-foot in his innings at Capetown.
Pagalpanti Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Disagree. Look at SA, in first innings they didn't apply themselves they got shot out for 250 but in 2nd innings they spent time and have almost reached the same score but lost 3 wickets only. Its all about how batsman apply themselves without having any brain-farts.
Cricketics Posted February 2, 2013 Author Posted February 2, 2013 Disagree. Look at SA, in first innings they didn't apply themselves they got shot out for 250 but in 2nd innings they spent time and have almost reached the same score but lost 3 wickets only. Its all about how batsman apply themselves without having any brain-farts. HMM poor example. South Africa were looking good always. Pakistan fielded well and took some good catches along with some good bowling too and that restricted South Africa to 253. Check the scores of all the players in first inning. They all got starts and scored in 20s or 40s. Just couldn't build up.
Karan114 Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 hes struggling against moving new ball' date='but can still be good against spinners and old ball[/quote'] Maybe but even at home, he has only made one century in the last 2 years. That said, even at his age and past his best, I guess I would prefer him at 6 in home games over third rate Test rubbish like Yuvraj and Raina.
Lord Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Maybe but even at home' date=' he has only made one century in the last 2 years. That said, even at his age and past his best, I guess I would prefer him at 6 in home games over third rate Test rubbish like Yuvraj and Raina.[/quote'] hes definitely going through a horror patch.not suggesting otherwise.might have lost some reflexes too. but he plays spin well,hes too good to write off so easily without giving him a chance in middle order imo,remember he was a middle order player originally
Karan114 Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 hes definitely going through a horror patch.not suggesting otherwise.might have lost some reflexes too. but he plays spin well,hes too good to write off so easily without giving him a chance in middle order imo,remember he was a middle order player originally I hope you are correct, but I fear this is a batsman in terminal decline as opposed to being in bad form only. Unlike Sachin, Dravid and Kallis, it was always going to be tough for Sehwag to recover when he approached his mid thirties because his game relies more on exceptional hand eye coordination than a watertight technique. But as I said, given our struggles to find batsmen, I don't mind giving him a run at 6 at home instead of turning back to rubbish like Yuvraj or Raina. But away from Asia I can't even see him surviving even at 6 now.
Lord Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 I hope you are correct' date= but I fear this is a batsman in terminal decline as opposed to being in bad form only. Unlike Sachin, Dravid and Kallis, it was always going to be tough for Sehwag to recover when he approached his mid thirties because his game relies more on exceptional hand eye coordination than a watertight technique. But as I said, given our struggles to find batsmen, I don't mind giving him a run at 6 at home instead of turning back to rubbish like Yuvraj or Raina. But away from Asia I can't even see him surviving even at 6 now. you never can be sure about that.Even Tendulkar seemed in decline in 2007 and people like Ian Chappell clearly bashed him and asked him to retire.but he made a grand comeback,didnt he? point is,a great player,specially a player like Sehwag always looks clueless and in 'terminal decline' when hes out of touch to me its a just a case of application.unlike Gambhir,who has technical issues,Sehwag looks reasonably comfortable wen hes batting and suddenly throws it away or a ball gets him.its not he scores through edges
ganeshran Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Sehwag is an icing on a figurative cake. Except that we don't have the cake anymore' date=' so can't afford to play him.[/quote'] lol..this
Karan114 Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 If you read my post again, this is why I have specifically contrasted Tendulkar, Dravid and Kallis from Sehwag. The first three had superb techniques and even when they suffered problems in their mid thirties they could lean back on their techniques to make a comeback. Sehwag doesn't. Also, you are wrong to say that Sehwag always looks in "terminal" decline. Since late 2010 he has made only one century in Test cricket. Despite his reputation as a hit and miss player, Sehwag actually had a very consistent record before that, so there is also statistical evidence that he is not the player he once was.
Ultimate_Game Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Sehwag's done. He has shown no inclination to improve either and is happy playing IPL.
Lord Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 If you read my post again, this is why I have specifically contrasted Tendulkar, Dravid and Kallis from Sehwag. The first three had superb techniques and even when they suffered problems in their mid thirties they could lean back on their techniques to make a comeback. Sehwag doesn't. Also, you are wrong to say that Sehwag always looks in "terminal" decline. Since late 2010 he has made only one century in Test cricket. Despite his reputation as a hit and miss player, Sehwag actually had a very consistent record before that, so there is also statistical evidence that he is not the player he once was. again,I never said he's the same player.but hes struggles are mainly against the new ball.Thats why I want him in the middle order.Those stats are of him as an opener and I agree he shouldnt open about his technique,its not ideal,but not that bad either,especially for a MO player.to me he deserves a shot there
NareshK Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Measured attack is the key. Keep the good deliveries out and put the bad balls away. Just swinging at every ball is out of the question. Not attempting to score and blocking everything also spells trouble. Its easier said than done though. :P
Old guy Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 again,I never said he's the same player.but hes struggles are mainly against the new ball.Thats why I want him in the middle order.Those stats are of him as an opener and I agree he shouldnt open about his technique,its not ideal,but not that bad either,especially for a MO player.to me he deserves a shot there his struggles only seem to be against new ball cos he has not survived enough deliveries to get to play old ball in south africa ball will seam all day some times u can protest any player and lately he has been out slogging to spinners many times if luckily he survives first hour but anderson showed tht classy bowler needs 2 balls to get sehwag now a days :giggle:
vandokkum Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Sehwag wouldn't score 49 runs in 3 matches in SA against this bowling lineup. India need to do away with him for test cricket
Lord Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 his struggles only seem to be against new ball cos he has not survived enough deliveries to get to play old ball in south africa ball will seam all day some times u can protest any player and lately he has been out slogging to spinners many times if luckily he survives first hour but anderson showed tht classy bowler needs 2 balls to get sehwag now a days :giggle: the same classy bowler was hammered in Ahmedbad by Sehwag.hes off form so such things will happen. as for slogging against spinners,I said he needs to apply himself better.atleast hes technically good against spinners,lately most of our players struggle even there:giggle:
Old guy Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 the same classy bowler was hammered in Ahmedbad by Sehwag.hes off form so such things will happen. as for slogging against spinners,I said he needs to apply himself better.atleast hes technically good against spinners,lately most of our players struggle even there:giggle: nah anderson did not swing much in first test he did in others and u can see result do u remember the bowled? where he played inside the line of inswing?
Lord Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 nah anderson did not swing much in first test he did in others and u can see result do u remember the bowled? where he played inside the line of inswing? yes I do,but then Sehwag was always a bit of ftb,nothing new. anyways I am talking of him as a MO player,not opener
Old guy Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 yes I do,but then Sehwag was always a bit of ftb,nothing new. anyways I am talking of him as a MO player,not opener so plz read the op he is talking abt sehwag being opener in south africa on these kind of tracks..
Lord Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 so plz read the op he is talking abt sehwag being opener in south africa on these kind of tracks.. I know.I said he should be playing in MO.I am taking middle ground between opening with him n chucking him out:--D
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