game_changerr Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Ashwin is a match winner' date=' all his 5fers and 10fers are in winning cause.[/quote'] unlike the brand ambassador of ''long sleeved shirt''
Crookbond Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 One problem with him is fitness. When bowling longer spells' date= this could make the difference because if he gets tired, he may not be at his best. Hope he works on this because he is also a decent bat. Superb bowling effort in this match. :hatsoff: Forget getting tired - even in short spells, to extract more from the pitch in overseas conditions he needs to be fit. Fitness helps to put more on the ball and also the body shape may lead to achieving drift.
Iconoclast Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Haven't seen much of the match ... is he bowling better or are Ozzies just that clueless against spin ?
G_B_ Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Ashwin has cut out his "variation" and has stuck to classic off spin, bowling the right lengths and letting the pitch to the work. In the England series he was trying too many things which resulted in a poor line and length. I think in places like England, SA and Aus he needs to form another plan. What he has done well in this test is that he has simply put the ball in the right place. On a pitch with no assistance he may very well need his variations.
Crookbond Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 MS Dhoni (presentation ceremony) - Ashwin didn't use his variations too much
Pagalpanti Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Lets not get carried away. The likes of Cook-Pietersen are a class above this Aussie bunch. Just look at these pitch map for instance, hardly anything different. But yes he did look like he relied more on his offies than his variations. Top one is vs England in mumbai where got carted around in a similar pitch to chennai and the bottom one is vs Aussies.
Sidhoni Posted February 26, 2013 Author Posted February 26, 2013 He is bowling slightly further from the stumps. He is bowling at the off stump or outside against Aus to the righties. He is also cutting down on his variations and not trying too much. BTW I can't find the one that got Clarke, that was really full.
Texan Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 He's already got 2 10-wicket match hauls and 7 5-wicket innings hauls in his short career so far. Good going!
div Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Lets not get carried away. The likes of Cook-Pietersen are a class above this Aussie bunch. Just look at these pitch map for instance, hardly anything different. But yes he did look like he relied more on his offies than his variations. Top one is vs England in mumbai where got carted around in a similar pitch to chennai and the bottom one is vs Aussies. England-413 Australia-380 There is not much difference
rkt.india Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Lets not get carried away. The likes of Cook-Pietersen are a class above this Aussie bunch. Just look at these pitch map for instance, hardly anything different. But yes he did look like he relied more on his offies than his variations. [] Agree. KP and Cook both are tall guys and used their reach to great effect. They blunted the spin and turn by getting to the pitch of the ball and because our bowlers were slow in the air in comparison to what they faced in UAE against Pak in Ajmal and Rehman, they were better equipped to face our spinners who whenever tried to bowl quicker through the air erred in control.
carnish Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Guys I never watched the Kolkata game and dont know why we lost or bowled poorly. Mumbai was an easier track than this Chennai pitch to bat on, its different that the Indian batters had mindfarts on seeing Panesar. Mumbai had a bit of bounce and pace and the pitch was not slow. In India most visiting team struggle only when the pitch turns and keeps low ... Mumbai wasnt low and English batsmen were good on that. I am sure that Hyderabad and Mohali will have bounce and hence even if it turns square, Aussies will find it a little easier.
panther Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Swann and monty put a lot of rev on the ball lyon is too gentle with his spin.
DarthSimian Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Joint 3rd place as the fastest guy ever to reach 75 wickets. Now on to 100. http://in.tweetwood.com/bhogleharsha/tweet/306030255762714626 Congrats.
JaFanatic Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 the record is 12 tests and he reached there in 13 :hatsoff:
cricketpitch Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 The good thing about Ashwin is that he improved his length and bowled a lots of traditional stuff this innings. His carrom balls were used sparingly and most of his wickets were traditional off spinners dismissals. The guy is 13 tests old, still learning his trade, we have to hope that he turns into something good for India. The only thing we need to do as fans is reprise some faith on the bowler like Ashwin and give him a run of about 20-25 tests and see how his career pans out. He just toured Australia once where lots of great spinners have struggled (Murali has an average of 75 or something like that) and yes he did fail against England but that will be a learning experience for him. He played two weaker sides at home who aren't great players of spin and got into some bad habits as his inconsistencies were rewarded with wickets by those two sides. He was punished for the same inconsistencies by a better batting line up as England. Now he would be in a position to realize that what worked against NZ and WI will not work against other teams and he needs to be more patient against better sides, which is what we are seeing him do in the present game. In the same accord you will see him getting better overseas too. It took Kumble almost 10 years to become a decent spinner overseas and Ashwin has just played one series. He needs more time and he surely has a god chance of becoming a decent bowler for India.
yoda Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Fantastic performance. Should have shared MoM with Dhoni. Liked the fact that he rarely wavered and kept the pressure on the bat every time he came to bowl.
f.b.m Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 I personally didn't see too much of a difference in the way he bowled. Its not that he bowled lots of carrom balls in the England series either . He basically has two variations, the slower top-spinnier at ~80kmph and the flatter side-spinning ball at 90 kmph. A mistake that he kept making was firing the flatter one down the right handers leg side but then and he didnt do it as much in this match but I think the difference is mainly the fact that there are a lot more mediocre left handers in the Australian side to target and more spin friendly conditions.
Texan Posted February 27, 2013 Posted February 27, 2013 Bhajji fanboys here seem all pissed with Ashwin's successes! :winky:
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