harmuk Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 While I am not a big fan of fletcher, I can somewhat understand why they did this. Fletcher's role was to oversee a transition period in Indian cricket, similar to what he oversaw in England in the early to mid 2000s when England lost the likes of mainstays like Stewart,Hussain,caddick,gough,thorpe and many others. England came out of there with good results for a little while. India at the moment are undergoing a transition period and it's important that the youngsters develop familiarity with the coaching structure. I would rather judge Duncan properly in a year when the youngsters have had time to fit in to this team. Contrary to what people believe, a coach's role is not to do with strategy or teaching these guys how to play. It's primarily, and especially in Indian cricket, about man management. This is where Kirsten was brilliant and Chappell was poor. A coach is more a facilitator of training and the captain is the main tactician. The reason we lost 8-0 is that the senior players didn't perform brilliantly like they have in previous away tours. It wasn't due to poor tactics or strategy. They were just getting old and up against 2 good teams on their home turf. Im not a fan of Duncan but people expecting to just drop a new coach in and expect brilliant results overseas seem to forget that it's the players themselves that are out there for 5 days.You got it right. Your analysis is spot on. Good days ahead for Indian cricket, with likes of Pujara doing well and a lot of young talent if given ample chances ready to pounce on. For once Indian cricket got it right when they kicked out the main culprits for the 0-8 debacle barring the record hungry Tendulkar. Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag, Gambhir all out of the team along with the useless Harbhajan and never fit Zaheer.
SLICKR392 Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 so next year srini, dhoni and fletcher will be leaving togrther. arun jaitley will come in and first thing he'll do is appoint his delhite kohli as captain. Anyone's better than Srini TBH. Would ANY other country appoint a coach after getting clobbered 8-0 and thrashed 2-1 at home?
CG Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 If Dhoni Stays after 11-1 then why not fletcher .We do not believe in racial discrimination:hatsoff:. Also Some dhoni fans have to stop being hypocrites.
vvvslaxman Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 If Dhoni Stays after 11-1 then why not fletcher .We do not believe in racial discrimination:hatsoff:. Also Some dhoni fans have to stop being hypocrites. Apples and oranges. Dhoni scored a 224. You can pick a captain only from playing XI. Fletcher proved nothing You can pick a coach from anywhere in the world.
SLICKR392 Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 If Dhoni Stays after 11-1 then why not fletcher .We do not believe in racial discrimination:hatsoff:. Also Some dhoni fans have to stop being hypocrites. That goes for the hates as well.
rkt.india Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 bharat, You have tried to explain it, but truth is even BCCI babus would not have spent a minute thinking :winky: about those things you wrote about. They just extended his time, thats all :cantstop: They dont bother with rational thinking. same reasoning is given by BCCI too.
CSK Fan Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 You got it right. Your analysis is spot on. Good days ahead for Indian cricket, with likes of Pujara doing well and a lot of young talent if given ample chances ready to pounce on. For once Indian cricket got it right when they kicked out the main culprits for the 0-8 debacle barring the record hungry Tendulkar. Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag, Gambhir all out of the team along with the useless Harbhajan and never fit Zaheer. Please come back when we actually win overseas with these same youngsters. I know ch-utiyas like you very well. You are not fans of any players, you just want to abuse players who have achieved success but you dislike. As soon as Pujara, etc start failing, leeches like you will be the first one to abuse them too. You have never tastes success in life yourself and cannot stand anyone being put on a pedestal and being praised
DarthSimian Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 While I am not a big fan of fletcher, I can somewhat understand why they did this. Fletcher's role was to oversee a transition period in Indian cricket, similar to what he oversaw in England in the early to mid 2000s when England lost the likes of mainstays like Stewart,Hussain,caddick,gough,thorpe and many others. England came out of there with good results for a little while. India at the moment are undergoing a transition period and it's important that the youngsters develop familiarity with the coaching structure. I would rather judge Duncan properly in a year when the youngsters have had time to fit in to this team. Contrary to what people believe, a coach's role is not to do with strategy or teaching these guys how to play. It's primarily, and especially in Indian cricket, about man management. This is where Kirsten was brilliant and Chappell was poor. A coach is more a facilitator of training and the captain is the main tactician. The reason we lost 8-0 is that the senior players didn't perform brilliantly like they have in previous away tours. It wasn't due to poor tactics or strategy. They were just getting old and up against 2 good teams on their home turf. Im not a fan of Duncan but people expecting to just drop a new coach in and expect brilliant results overseas seem to forget that it's the players themselves that are out there for 5 days. This. Indian team has changed a lot since the overseas drubbing. The main problem India has always had was to make old people retire when they are nearing the end. That part has mostly happened. It is a cycle that every country has gone through recently.
Old guy Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 Please come back when we actually win overseas with these same youngsters. I know ch-utiyas like you very well. You are not fans of any players' date=' you just want to abuse players who have achieved success but you dislike. As soon as Pujara, etc start failing, leeches like you will be the first one to abuse them too. You have never tastes success in life yourself and cannot stand anyone being put on a pedestal and being praised[/quote'] what about kohli ? :winky:
saneindian Posted March 16, 2013 Author Posted March 16, 2013 Please come back when we actually win overseas with these same youngsters. I know ch-utiyas like you very well. You are not fans of any players' date= you just want to abuse players who have achieved success but you dislike. As soon as Pujara, etc start failing, leeches like you will be the first one to abuse them too. You have never tastes success in life yourself and cannot stand anyone being put on a pedestal and being praised What is with all this name calling and personal innuendos? Not called for at all.
Sidhoni Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 Please come back when we actually win overseas with these same youngsters. I know ch-utiyas like you very well. You are not fans of any players' date=' you just want to abuse players who have achieved success but you dislike. As soon as Pujara, etc start failing, leeches like you will be the first one to abuse them too. You have never tastes success in life yourself and cannot stand anyone being put on a pedestal and being praised[/quote'] Though I completely agree with what you said, you need to tone down a bit!
Straight Drive Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 When the team wins important test series or the World Cup the coaches take credit by including it in their resume and using such high profile team wins in fetching better contract by showing to employers that they are better coaches than others. Basically they take credit when team does well. so it would be double standards of them to not take responsibility for the bad performances of the team during their tenure. they cannot have it both ways. He may not be 100% responsible for the teams decline in test matches, however he has some proportion of share in it.
Crookbond Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 You got it right. Your analysis is spot on. Good days ahead for Indian cricket, with likes of Pujara doing well and a lot of young talent if given ample chances ready to pounce on. For once Indian cricket got it right when they kicked out the main culprits for the 0-8 debacle barring the record hungry Tendulkar. Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag, Gambhir all out of the team along with the useless Harbhajan and never fit Zaheer. What is with all this name calling and personal innuendos? Not called for at all. One the highlighted was written in the original post, it was just a matter of time before someone does that. I just don't justify it; I'm just explaining the dynamics of this message board.
Crookbond Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 When the team wins important test series or the World Cup the coaches take credit by including it in their resume and using such high profile team wins in fetching better contract by showing to employers that they are better coaches than others. Basically they take credit when team does well. so it would be double standards of them to not take responsibility for the bad performances of the team during their tenure. they cannot have it both ways. He may not be 100% responsible for the teams decline in test matches' date= however he has some proportion of share in it. In this case, Fletcher's employers decided that his resumé was ideal for the job.
Straight Drive Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 In this case' date=' Fletcher's employers decided that his resumé was ideal for the job.[/quote'] England actually did well in test format when he succeeded Peter Moores as coach. Problems started for him as they failed miserably in the world Cup and had a bad run in ODI's. Now that he has been given a chance instead of a decline in our test performance we hope continuity will reap some benefits for us.
carnish Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 Please come back when we actually win overseas with these same youngsters. I know ch-utiyas like you very well. You are not fans of any players' date=' you just want to abuse players who have achieved success but you dislike. As soon as Pujara, etc start failing, leeches like you will be the first one to abuse them too. You have never tastes success in life yourself and cannot stand anyone being put on a pedestal and being praised[/quote'] :facepalm: Seriously Uncalled For.
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