Vilander Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 So after tundler coach ishant got his pace back... Why is he still crap? he actually got his pace back, but then that does not mean he is not crap to begin with and did not improve. But he got his pace back, till recently when he got injured and is still recovering, if you saw the last test upon getting his legendary 'rhythm' back his pace was back to 140's. Promising i would say, will he be world class because of this, i wouldn't bet on it.
Old guy Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 he actually got his pace back' date=' but then that does not mean he is not crap to begin with and did not improve. But he got his pace back, till recently when he got injured and is still recovering, if you saw the last test upon getting his legendary 'rhythm' back his pace was back to 140's. Promising i would say, will he be world class because of this, i wouldn't bet on it.[/quote'] Nah don't think any one asked him to slow down His action is not Consistent in same over difference is pace can be huge He was not bowling quick in last series just few covers ,nothing to do with I jury or rhythm here it has been his long term problem At his best in Australia in 2008 in tests he hardly touched 140 k Only in Odis he bowled quick
The Outsider Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 he actually got his pace back' date=' but then that does not mean he is not crap to begin with and did not improve. But he got his pace back, till recently when he got injured and is still recovering, if you saw the last test upon getting his legendary 'rhythm' back his pace was back to 140's. Promising i would say, will he be world class because of this, i wouldn't bet on it.[/quote'] The best years of Ishant were when Prasad was the bowling coach. You've completely lost it at this point.
Old guy Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 Dont you think statements mean very little when on field actions are arguable ?. Trundler player' date=' trundler favoring coach...very dangerous i would say.[/quote'] How can u prove coach asked him to slow down? How can u just ignore statement where he said he won't ask any one to slow down ? To me a stement is much more value able then what u think.
The Outsider Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 Dont you think statements mean very little when on field actions are arguable ?. Trundler player' date= trundler favoring coach...very dangerous i would say. On field actions prove that Ishant had his best years as a bowler when Prasad was coach. :hatsoff:
trundlerNO1 Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 Next big thing for sure, if I was the selector I would play him in County cricket rather than IPL
Vilander Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 How can u prove coach asked him to slow down? How can u just ignore statement where he said he won't ask any one to slow down ? To me a stement is much more value able then what u think. you see you'v got it all wrong, it doesn't matter what you and i think. Only thing that matters is what the powers to be think, and what they think of Venky is there to be seen for everyone.
Dumbbells Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 L'Etranger;2312732]Prasad made a statement while he was coach that he was pleased with the speed with which the new bowlers were bowling and had no intention of asking them to reduce pace. It was discussed on ICF as well, dig it up. i remember him arguing wid ganguly on neo sports dat aravind and vinay shud play ahead of varun and umesh. He also said pace is not important since aravind has lot of variations up his sleeve. We all knew how ****ed up ishant was wen he started bwling like zaheer and as a bwlng coach he did nothing to stop him frm doing dat. Crappy bowler he was. He recommends crappy bwlrs like aravind who is frm his state.
Vilander Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 On field actions prove that Ishant had his best years as a bowler when Prasad was coach. :hatsoff: inspite of prasad being coach, cause he did what he used to do till being told to do something else arguably by Prasad since he was the coach. :yay:
The Outsider Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 i remember him arguing wid ganguly on neo sports dat aravind and vinay shud play ahead of varun and umesh. He also said pace is not important since aravind has lot of variations up his sleeve. We all knew how ****ed up ishant was wen he started bwling like zaheer and as a bwlng coach he did nothing to stop him frm doing dat. Crappy bowler he was. He recommends crappy bwlrs like aravind who is frm his state. People blabber all sorts of crap in an unofficial capacity when they are on TV channels. Has nothing to do with reality. inspite of prasad being coach' date=' cause he did what he used to do till being told to do something else arguably by Prasad since he was the coach. :yay:[/quote'] So how many qilaas has Ishant done fateh on since being rid of the evil influence of Prasad in 4 years? :dontknow:
Vilander Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 i remember him arguing wid ganguly on neo sports dat aravind and vinay shud play ahead of varun and umesh. He also said pace is not important since aravind has lot of variations up his sleeve. We all knew how ****ed up ishant was wen he started bwling like zaheer and as a bwlng coach he did nothing to stop him frm doing dat. Crappy bowler he was. He recommends crappy bwlrs like aravind who is frm his state. this instead of this Very poor judgement, geneuinly gully cricket level of judgement in a national coach ...che che che..
Vilander Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 People blabber all sorts of crap in an unofficial capacity when they are on TV channels. Has nothing to do with reality. So how many qilaas has Ishant done fateh on since being rid of the evil influence of Prasad in 4 years? :dontknow: you see to make a crap bowler crappier one must be a very bad coach..which is what Prasad has done..
Magneto Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 Yadav is back on time for IPL :good: Will again get injured by the time the SA series starts.
Vilander Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 Yadav is back on time for IPL :good: Will again get injured by the time the SA series starts. good work saurav bhai...may your panautigiri continue.
The Outsider Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 you see to make a crap bowler crappier one must be a very bad coach..which is what Prasad has done.. Ishant was a very good bowler when Prasad was the coach. Perth, Australia's series in India, Galle, Hamilton all happened when Prasad was coach.
Vilander Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 Ishant was a very good bowler when Prasad was the coach. Perth' date=' Australia's series in India, Galle, Hamilton all happened when Prasad was coach.[/quote'] Yes Ishant was doing what he used to do naturally, what he was good at. Dont you see that is the point to this whole argument..
The Outsider Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 Yes Ishant was doing what he used to do naturally' date=' what he was good at. Dont you see that is the point to this whole argument..[/quote'] I do see the point and find it hilarious that for two years Ishant was doing good and suddenly before the WT20 Prasad infused some jaadu tona in him to start delivering crap, which he hasn't been able to get rid off for 4 years despite having access to the best coaches and facilities in the world.
Magneto Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 good work saurav bhai...may your panautigiri continue. That was a sarcastic comment on how Indian cricketers usually get fit during IPL and remain injured otherwise :(( Sarcasm fail :((
Texan Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 i remember him arguing wid ganguly on neo sports dat aravind and vinay shud play ahead of varun and umesh. He also said pace is not important since aravind has lot of variations up his sleeve. We all knew how ****ed up ishant was wen he started bwling like zaheer and as a bwlng coach he did nothing to stop him frm doing dat. Crappy bowler he was. He recommends crappy bwlrs like aravind who is frm his state. He probably wants all bowlers to start bowling like him :haha: I always found it funny when he managed to deceive batsmen with his slower ball.... how can you bowl slower than the slow medium he bowled anyway :idunno:
vishalvirsingh Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 No body in its Pure senses wud select VK and arvind over varun n Umesh Umesh n varun if Fit are Super fast and both these guys are under 130K bowlers.
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