someone Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 It was poor. Delusional mind. Basically talked about the well-known problems but offered absolutely no solution/roadmap. He has little connection with everyday people and believed his 30 hours train journey alone made him understand India. Although agreed with him on some points like how the PM and the government cannot solve it. That is very correct as I myself have no hope on MMS and the Congress government.
asterix Posted April 4, 2013 Author Posted April 4, 2013 I saw glimpses of usual brilliance, mashallah.. :hatsoff: Indians are in good hands..
Khalpat Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 Why Rahul Gandhi’s the real Big Boss Okay people, you can breathe now. Rahul Gandhi won’t be back with his post- modern spin on the Panchatantra anytime soon. We’re guessing he’ll be busy hiring a new speech writer. Or hanging out with Montek. Boys got to do what he’s got to do, boss! Rahul Gandhi. AFP. That leaves us with ample time to regale in the wonderful world we live in and didn’t know we were part of before Rahul told us. So here’s what we got: 1. India is a beehive. Which means it is full of obsessive, compulsive people getting on each others’ nerves. True that. You might want to think so, but Beni Prasad and Mulayam can’t be that rare a breed, right? For further assurance, take a ride on a Mumbai local during rush hour – it’ll erase every doubt about the Congress scion’s flair for metaphors. America is an elephant. Since Gandhi didn’t explain why, we’re guessing the burgers are to blame. And China is a dragon. Blame the Indian designers who do the interiors for Chinese eateries for that one. 2. Rahul Gandhi is to MIT, what Pooja Bedi is to Indian Agony Aunt columns. So guys from MIT, evidently scarred by Anil Kapoor, come over to the young Gandhi’s place and break down. “Why are Indians this way?” they ask. Rahul (in AK Hangal tone): “Because they are always dealing with complexity.” Point to note: We evidently like Mamata Banerjee too much. 3. Those people in Baywatch, they are for real. And blonde jokes are not remotely racist. Because in the nineties when Rahul Gandhi went to college in the US, his classmates asked him: “Do elephants walk on the roads in India?” Gandhi had to answer that one. There was no Vipul Shah, no Akshay Kumar, no Namaste London wisdom back them. Poor boy. 4. Rahul Gandhi spends a lot of time with poor people. Evidently, video games, Facebook and Twitter are banned in his house. I’m guessing these ‘poor people’ are to Rahul Gandhi what the ‘status message’ box is to us. You can only be ‘liked’ there. Even if you say chocolates are bad for the brain or something. 5. We need to build boats for some people. Because they are the waves. If this is not making sense to you, we’re sure you can’t relate to Asaram Bapu either. Or maybe you didn’t like Life of Pi enough. http://www.firstpost.com/politics/why-rahul-gandhis-the-real-big-boss-685740.html
saneindian Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 Poor delivery of the written speech, but he did speak honestly (mostly cliched) when he was taking Qs even though the answers were totally tangential. Also given it his first such interaction, not a bad effort at all.
FischerTal Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 i expected him to further explain why politics is in his pants and shirt and ours too. :giggle:
Crookbond Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 TFS Khalpat for that article. Here's an alternative perspective from the very same website (one of the reasons I like Firstpost) : The Rahul you didn’t know existed: How he floored the CII http://www.firstpost.com/business/the-rahul-you-didnt-know-existed-how-he-floored-the-cii-685660.html For the first time ever, Rahul Gandhi made an impression with those who count – the people of India Inc. For the first time ever, he was cogent and gave us an insight into how he thought of the country and its problems. He may not have a clear answer, or even a workable solution, but he did have a clear view on how India works or doesn’t. The big statement he made was a simple one: We are not an elephant. “We are a beehive.” He got a well-deserved standing ovation for his views at the Confederation of Indian Industry in Delhi today. In comparing India with China, and why India does not seem to work as efficiently as its biggest neighbour, Gandhi said India was not really a top-down economy. It fizzes from below. It is a buzzing beehive and the beehive has its own power, its own complexity. And our solutions lie in realising our strength as a beehive. A beehive’s power comes from its ability to act collectively by giving each member of the hive a voice and a chance to do his or her thing. This is where the state has failed, where the system is jamming things up. He was clear that the answer to India’s problems lay in empowering the lowest man – so that the beehive buzzes with greater purpose. Gandhi’s CII audience gave him full marks for his performance, especially in the post-speech Q&A session, even though he did not offer any promises on how the UPA government or his own party will make major changes to improve the current climate of despondency in India Inc. But he did give them a guided tour of what he saw as the country’s core issue – disempowerment. In the process, he offered a viable counter-argument to those who see Narendra Modi as the answer – even without naming him. As Gandhi told it, there was no magic bullet for India’s problems and one man could not solve it anyway. “Take one man, and give him all the power to solve our problems – and it’s not going to happen.” But, equally, he debunked the Prime Minister’s statement yesterday at the CII that industry should keep its faith in government. Gandhi was dismissive of this, too: “If you expect Manmohan Singh to solve our problems, it’s not going to happen.” The answer, he said, lay in empowering people. “I am irrelevant.” Repeating an earlier statement about why his becoming PM was not important, he said the problem was the political system was not responding to the aspirations of the people. “The system is closed.” He made this point even in connection with industry. He said business and government did not have a proper institutional mechanism to deal with real issues. The system operates informally, where if you are “a friend of Montek (Singh Ahluwalia)” you may be heard, but industry as a whole does not have a proper institutional mechanism to work with government for the country’s betterment. “Our political system is not responding (even) to you.” And the same issues bother the common man. “Open up the voices of the Indian people and see what happens.” On the India-China comparison, Rahul had another point to make: the difference lay in how we applied power. Given its authoritarian and centralised structure, China’s power was obvious. India’s was more muted, and softer. Power was applied more tangentially and indirectly. “We have much more power than we think.” The apparent chaos of India, he said, was in tune with our beehive nature. “We are always complaining about everything,” but this was because we were dealing with the daily noises of a complex and democratic system. The chaos and complexity of India “drives foreigners crazy”, but Rahul Gandhi said noise was natural when we are dealing with complexity.” Foreigners want a simple solution, but “our environment is not simple.” This is why Gandhi believes that questions about his becoming PM should be subsumed in the larger question:“how do we give people voice.” That is the only question that is relevant for him. The CII event was an impressive coming-out party for Rahul Gandhi in terms of articulation, but some of the questions will not go away. First, good insight and analysis are no substitute for action. As the scion of India’s most powerful political family and with his own government in place for nine years, why did these ideas never get implemented? Second, talk about empowering the last man is fine, but the UPA’s actions were more about throwing freebies in the direction of the aam aadmi – in fact the UPA’s flagship schemes are the exact opposite of empowerment since they were shoved down the states’ throats. Three, Rahul Gandhi, of course, wants power devolved even below the state level – to panchayats – but the question is has he deployed this model even in states ruled by the Congress? Four, Rahul’s “beehive” analogy certainly is a new idea, but he did not address the central question of why the hive is busy stinging the Congress party for its failures on governance. Five, the Gandhi scion talked of listening even to one’s worst enemy in order to find solutions, but why hasn’t he done anything to put this ideal into practice – by talking to the BJP and its leaders on how the Indian beehive can be made to buzz more musically. But net-net, Rahul Gandhi did make his points more effectively that he ever did before.
ravishingravi Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 I don't think it was the worst. Certainly, his best effort.
Khalpat Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 I still think, Rahul Gandhi is happy with his philosophical attitude related to politics and he himself is not interested in taking any high post. Modi atleast in his speech says it is his duty to serve people and come to main stream central politics. Rahul gandhi says, its a sacrifice he is making by taking Satta sukh.
Desi Cartman Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 Long story short, his uncle is PM for the last so many years and still he has balls to come on stage and act like a visionary. Reality is that his khandan has run this country for so many years so he should STFU unless he can start contributing himself
Clarke Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 ^ Funny tweet on that When I went to university in 91,nobody knew India~#RG. Brother, till 90s it was your dad, grand mom and great grand father who were in power :giggle:
saneindian Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 #PappuCII was trending on twitter when Rahul Gandhi was giving his speech. Shambolic failure of Congress' social media strategy on which they said they will spend 100 cr every year! The funny thing is that #PappuCII has made it to the international media outlets like The Telegraph, Reuters etc.
Sachin=GOD Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 #PappuCII :hehe: yeh Pappu paas nahi hua :phehehe:
jiggo Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 CII audience were at least thrilled with Rahul Gandhi's stand up routine, money worth spending for an enjoyable one hour gig. This moron is such an embarrassment to Nehru's dynasty.
someone Posted April 6, 2013 Posted April 6, 2013 Rahul ridiculed at the CII meet! Rahul Gandhi mocked for 'beehive' speech Rahul Gandhi, scion of India's ruling Congress dynasty, was ridiculed and mocked yesterday as a keynote speech was dismissed as 'rambling' and 'naïve' by business leaders he had set out to win over. By Dean Nelson, New Delhi 4:57PM BST 04 Apr 2013 Mr Gandhi, who has been ear-marked as a future Congress party leader and Indian prime minister, sought to set out his vision for the country's future in a rare public speech to some of the country's most powerful business leaders at the Confederation of Indian Industry. But his attempt to appear passionate, messianic and informal backfired as critics mocked his chummy addressing of business leaders as 'Boss,' a series of mixed metaphors, and his ponderous and bumbling delivery. A speech that lasted well over an hour was overshadowed by a Twitter hashtag referring to him as 'Pappu', a local term for naïve, and quickly became the most popular trending discussion in India. In a storyline resembling a TED talk, he said India was like a "beehive' buzzing with complexity and energy. The country's challenge was to harness this hive of energy with better infrastructure and education for all its 1.2 bullion people. The country's leaders were "sitting on an unstoppable tide of human aspiration," and must "provide roads on which our dreams are paved", but not roads which "have potholes, they can't break down in six months," he said. The "complexity" of India's problems, he said, alluding to corruption and slow bureaucracy, had in fact given its business leaders a competitive advantage over rivals in the United States and Europe who had emerged from a more "simple" environment. "The beehive is a good analogy, you are masters of complexity, this buzzing sound you don't like, these newspaper stories which drive me nuts, this is your training, developing you to deal with complexity. This is what's going to give you the competitive advantage like nobody has ever had before. When you go out into the world and you have dealt with this complexity and you're dealing with competitors in the United States, France and Germany, you are people trained in complexity dealing with people trained in simplicity. I tell you who is going to win – you are going to win," he said to muted applause. He dismissed continuous speculation over whether he will replace prime minister Dr Manmohan Singh as the Congress party's candidate to lead the country at the next election. "The only relevant question in this country is how can we give our people voice. It is not important what Rahul Gandhi thinks, its important what a billion Indians think," he said Critics alighted on his failure to offer specific solutions to some of the country's most daunting problems – such as inflation, public debt, lagging foreign investment, and a series of corruption scandals which have tainted his party. "Rahul Gandhi said 'Boss' .. . visualise him talking to world leaders: 'Boss, hey dude, howz it hangin?'" said leading editor and commentator Madhu Trehan. Leading broadcaster Sagarika Ghose criticised his "fumble for written notes," while top newscaster Rajdeep Sardesai demanded to know: "Where are the solutions, Mr Gandhi?"
Sachin=GOD Posted April 6, 2013 Posted April 6, 2013 Rahul’s day out In the season of electoral hardsell, Rahul Gandhi has chosen to portray his party, government and himself as they are, warts and all. Not surprisingly, the pundits are tearing their hair: What could be the strategy behind a potential Prime Minister telling his voters not to entertain any hopes from him? Indeed, there were puzzling aspects to Rahulspeak, the platform for which was provided by India Inc. The Congress vice-president made no business pitch to the captains of industry as might have been expected of a political leader newly appointed to a strategic position in the ruling party. No invitation to invest, no assurances to ease the red tape, and no pleas for support. If this was odd, odder still was the Congress second-in-command’s refusal to woo the electorate with the kind of largesse and promises mandatorily handed out ahead of a critically important general election. Rahul’s speech was like a soliloquy: it was as if he was throwing questions at himself, exploring his own dilemmas, doubts and weaknesses and concluding that perhaps there were no answers. Rahul might have been a philosopher contemplating the mysteries of the world rather than a hard-nosed politician fighting to save his battered party and government from the prospect of defeat. To put it another way, he might have been a Congress malcontent wishing doom on the UPA government. How else could one explain his assertion that if Manmohan Singh was expected to “solve our problems, it is not going to happen?” The VIP politician critiqued the existing system for closing its doors on the ordinary people with their phenomenal capabilities but offered no roadmap for their future inclusion in decision-making. If there is a method in this seeming madness, it can only be that Rahul is consciously playing the outsider to escape the misdeeds of a regime of which he is a part. Admittedly he holds no post in government. But the Congress has ruled India the longest, and the Nehru-Gandhi clan has given us three Prime Ministers. And though Sonia Gandhi passed up the opportunity to be the fourth on the list, she is widely viewed as the power behind Prime Minister Singh’s shaky throne. So it stretches credulity that Rahul should speak as if he were a disenchanted voter angered and fatigued by the government’s remoteness from his everyday problems. On the other hand, sacrifice and aloofness are qualities that have proved in the past to be attractive to the Indian polity. The more the clan members run away from power and position, the more apparently their mystique. But can detachment by itself deliver votes when the competition is in the form of a very determined Narendra Modi? http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/editorial/rahuls-day-out/article4585411.ece
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