FischerTal Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 A man has been killed in a machete attack and two suspects shot by police in Woolwich, south-east London. Prime Minister David Cameron said there were "strong indications that it is a terrorist incident" and the UK would "never buckle" in the face of such attacks. Footage has emerged showing a man wielding a bloodied meat cleaver and making political statements. There are unconfirmed reports that the dead man was a soldier. Both French President Francois Hollande and MP Nick Raynsford said the dead man had been a soldier at Woolwich barracks. The footage shown on the ITV website shows a man, speaking to the camera, saying: "We must fight them as they fight us. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth." He added: "I apologise that women have had to witness this today, but in our land our women have to see the same. You people will never be safe. Remove your government, they don't care about you." Scene of incident in Woolwich The incident took place before many witnesses In developments since the attack, in John Wilson Street, the A205, at 14:20 BST: Downing Street said Mr Cameron, who had been planning to stay in Paris overnight after meeting the French president, would be returning to the UK later on Wednesday At a meeting of the government's emergency response committee, Cobra, it was decided to tighten security at Woolwich and other barracks in London Both shot men were taken to hospital, one by air ambulance One of the men is in a serious condition, the other is also being treated for injuries In a joint press conference, Mr Hollande said he wanted to express his solidarity with the UK after the "murder of a British soldier", but Mr Cameron did not confirm the victim had been a serviceman The Ministry of Defence said it was urgently looking into reports the incident had involved a soldier Another Cobra meeting will be held on Thursday morning, chaired by Mr Cameron Home Secretary Theresa May said she had been briefed by the director general of Security Service MI5, Andrew Parker, and Metropolitan Police Commissioner Bernard Hogan-Howe on the "sickening and barbaric" attack. Mr Cameron said Britain had faced "these sort of attacks", adding: "We will never buckle in the face of them. "People across Britain, people in every community, I believe, will utterly condemn this attack." He expressed sympathy for the victim and his family, saying: "It is the most appalling crime. We are obviously seeking, and the police are urgently seeking, the full facts about this case." One witness, identified only as James, said two men had attacked another man, aged about 20, who was wearing a T-shirt of military charity Help for Heroes. "These two guys were crazed. They were just animals. They dragged him from the pavement and dumped his body in the middle of the road and left his body there," he told LBC radio. He said after the "horrendous" attack, the two men, who were also in their 20s, stood around, waving knives and a gun, and asked people to take pictures of them "as if they wanted to be on TV or something". The case for this being a jihadist attack, following the ideology of al-Qaeda, is compelling - even if the police won't yet say so officially. If it is, then it would be the first such incident leading to a death of someone other than the perpetrator since the 2005 London suicide bombings. So the first task for ministers and officials is to assess the threat to the public - are other attacks planned? The official terrorism threat level is currently "substantial", which means an attack is "a strong possibility". If officials raise the level to "severe", that would mean they fear another attack is highly likely. If the victim is indeed a soldier, then that will be no surprise to security chiefs. Jihadists believe they are at war with the military because of its role in the Afghanistan conflict and elsewhere. The UK has previously uncovered three plots linked to possible terror attacks on the armed forces, including a cell in 2007 which planned to kidnap and behead a soldier in an Iraq-style hostage video. "They were oblivious to anything, they were more worried about having their photo taken, running up and down the road," he said. Thomas, a witness who contacted the BBC, said: "I got there minutes after it happened because you could hear gunshots from Woolwich High Street. "Basically two men carried out an axe attack on a young army cadet walking along the street, by the looks of things the police responded and then shot them in front of the public, at the same time I couldn't really tell if the cadet was fatally or not hurt as police were crowded around him." According to senior Whitehall sources the people carrying out the attack were heard to say: "Allahu Akbar [God is Great]", BBC political editor Nick Robinson reported. On Twitter, the Mayor of London Boris Johnson described the attack as a "sickening deluded and unforgivable act of violence". Buckingham Palace says the Queen is concerned at the news of the attack and is being kept informed. School lock-down Mr Raynsford, the Woolwich and Greenwich MP, said he had spoken to local police and understood a number of weapons had been seized at the scene including a gun, knives, and a machete. Metropolitan Police Commander Simon Letchford said two alleged attackers had been shot by officers. He said: "Police were called to reports of an assault... where one man was being assaulted by two other men. A number of weapons were reportedly being used in the attack, and this included reports of a firearm. "Officers including local Greenwich officers arrived at the scene, and shortly after firearms officers arrived on the scene. "On their arrival at the scene they found a man, who was later pronounced dead. "Two men, who we believe from early reports to have been carrying weapons, were shot by police. They have both been taken to separate London hospitals. They are receiving treatment for their injuries. "I can understand that this incident will cause community concerns and I would like to reiterate that we are investigating the circumstances." Head teacher David Dixon describes seeing a body in the street and hearing gunshots Meanwhile, the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) confirmed it had been informed. David Dixon, a local head teacher, told the BBC News Channel he walked out of the school gates and saw a body lying in the road a short distance away. He then heard gunshots and instructed staff to lock all the gates of his school. The air ambulance landed in the playground and most of the children have now gone home, he said. BBC security correspondent Frank Gardner said there remained a lot of questions about the attackers' possible motivation, and that Cobra would look at whether it had been an organised attack or a random criminal act. He added that the views expressed in the video chime with early jihadist messages. Disgusting but not unexpected in Britain :((
punjabi_khota Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 Hope they don't survive, and meet their God ASAP, like their fellow jihadi just did in Florida.
JourneyMan Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 Kind of ironic that this ended up happening on home soil while the UK was bankrolling guys in Syria who are doing the same thing on a daily basis.
punjabi_khota Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 Kind of ironic that this ended up happening on home soil while the UK was bankrolling guys in Syria who are doing the same thing on a daily basis. :hysterical: Thats the irony you see. I see the irony of this immigrant, 100% guaranteed on some sort of asylum+dole from UK, talking **** about UK, while claiming to defend some shithole where he came from. Or maybe the age-old irony of religion of peace being touted the reason for beheading.
punjabiplaya Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 so sad...the anger here is unbelievable...every fb post is majorly abusive to all muslims...surely these murderers must realise that theres gonna be a major retaliation,the edl are marching through woolwich and mosques have been attacked... i just hope no temples and gudwaras are attacked as many people become racist and dont differentiate when they see a brown perosn or a different place of worship!!! rip to the por man who was just minding his business and whose family will never see there loved one again!!!
Alchemist Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 in before green brigade starts blaming every one else
superstar Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 so sad...the anger here is unbelievable...every fb post is majorly abusive to all muslims...surely these murderers must realise that theres gonna be a major retaliation,the edl are marching through woolwich and mosques have been attacked... i just hope no temples and gudwaras are attacked as many people become racist and dont differentiate when they see a brown perosn or a different place of worship!!! rip to the por man who was just minding his business and whose family will never see there loved one again!!! Stay safe. Cool minds will hopefully prevail
Crookbond Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 so sad...the anger here is unbelievable...every fb post is majorly abusive to all muslims...surely these murderers must realise that theres gonna be a major retaliation,the edl are marching through woolwich and mosques have been attacked... i just hope no temples and gudwaras are attacked as many people become racist and dont differentiate when they see a brown perosn or a different place of worship!!! rip to the por man who was just minding his business and whose family will never see there loved one again!!! I hope so too. I've heard countless stories from friends who were targeted because Brits thought they were "Paki".
Ranvir Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 Luckily it wasn't a Pakistani or Bangladeshi this time. That would have made Indians lives harder in the UK where we are all grouped as 'Asian'. Funny I've never seen an Indian suicide bomber or Indian Grooming rape gang. The killers were black Africans.
Stuge Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 Speaking with a London accent, holding a knife and a meat cleaver and with his hands dripping with blood, he said:... This is straight from some Horror Novel
G_B_ Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 these dumb ****s who carried out the attack look like somali ****ers to me.
JourneyMan Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 i just hope no temples and gudwaras are attacked as many people become racist and dont differentiate when they see a brown perosn or a different place of worship!!! Yeah, as long as it's only mosques it should be fine...
ravishingravi Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 Yeah' date=' as long as it's only mosques it should be fine...[/quote'] Yeah right, that is what happened recently, no ?
jiggo Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 A muslim man (whilst igonoring he is black and off Nigerian descent) commits murder is labelled "terrorist" straight away. A white neo-nazi man slaughters over 40 school kids is labelled a lone "psychopath".
superstar Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 A muslim man (whilst igonoring he is black and off Nigerian descent) commits murder is labelled "terrorist" straight away. A white neo-nazi man slaughters over 40 school kids is labelled a lone "psychopath". Black people cannot follow Islam? :nervous: How many psychopaths kill children or people for a common cause? They are mentally screwed.
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