putrevus Posted June 13, 2013 Posted June 13, 2013 The umpires changed the ball in middle overs, just because it is fricking England we can safely assume umpires are not going to report anything. No side was able to get any reverse swing in first matches including Pakistan which Anderson got against Aussies in first match. These guys recently are getting more reverse swing than any other side??
cowboysfan Posted June 13, 2013 Posted June 13, 2013 I read that Bailey has complained that England are the only team getting reverse swing so early,i bet the umpires were aware of his allegations.
Hafeez Posted June 13, 2013 Posted June 13, 2013 even Wahab Riaz did not get Any Reverse swing Till now There is something Wrong England doing with Bowl Need to look at this Matter
putrevus Posted June 13, 2013 Author Posted June 13, 2013 Usage of two new balls should have eliminated the reverse swing but these guys are scuffing up by bouncing balls on practice pitches which is illegal. That idiot Nasser was laughing about it but if somebody else did that against them there would articles written by every fricking media member on how that side is cheating.
panther Posted June 13, 2013 Posted June 13, 2013 Why idiot ICC bring this stupid new rule in, Nothing better than a reverse swinging yorker, asian spinners and fast bowlers were the most affected by this stupid rule.
saneindian Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 Even with all that, they cannot defend 293 with their world class attack against a team like SL!
nikred Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 Usage of two new balls should have eliminated the reverse swing but these guys are scuffing up by bouncing balls on practice pitches which is illegal. That idiot Nasser was laughing about it but if somebody else did that against them there would articles written by every fricking media member on how that side is cheating. Is it? Really? :dontknow:
cowboysfan Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 I dont think there is any law against deliberately bouncing balls on the ground(it may work better in the sub continent).
Crookbond Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 No, they are not. England have accepted that the batch of Kookaburra balls this summer won't swing and the conditions haven't helped them. A lot of balls are delivered cross seam which leads to roughening up one side or the other. It's a good tactic and other teams should learn from it.
superstar Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 Hussain was complaining about this when England was touring India. Fletcher had made sure practise pitches had enough grass. England are ball tampers and need to be banned.
King Tendulkar Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 They are noit tampering with ball in paki sense. What they are doing and why umpires changed the ball, was cos they are throwing the ball in on the bounce to scuff up one side. This is still illegal and and so umpires changed the ball.
indiaregulator Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 Were we? I just recalled Broad and Bresnan bowling every single delivery cross seamed from like overs 6-15.
sir ji Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 why didn't they do it against Srilanka? Sent from my XT910 using Tapatalk 2
Rocky Balboa Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 What's surprising here? Isn't mushtaq Ahmed their bowling coach? He he
G_B_ Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 No' date=' they are not. England have accepted that the batch of Kookaburra balls this summer won't swing and the conditions haven't helped them. A lot of balls are delivered cross seam which leads to roughening up one side or the other. It's a good tactic and other teams should learn from it.[/quote'] +1 spot on. Its a mixture of cross seam and also bouncing the ball on the practice pitches alongside the used wicket. India should not do it because the older the ball gets IMO we have the spinners in Sir and Ashwin to naturally take advantage on these dry pitches. Now that Dar has done it IMO every umpire will be aware of what england are doing. So I think even the English will not bounce the ball too much on the practice pitches. Cause a newish ball in the 26th over killed all hope of any reverse swing.
The Outsider Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 I didn't watch the match - did they change both balls or just one?
cowboysfan Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 I didn't watch the match - did they change both balls or just one? Just one.
Fontaine Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Deliberately altering the ball in a non cricketing action is against the rules. The problem is that the rules aren't specific enough to include deliberately bouncing the ball on rough practice pitches because you shouldn't have to spell out every damn thing to grown up men who are supposed to be professionals. That doesn't mean the umpires shouldn't inspect the ball and be aware of it and good on the umpire to spotting it, inspecting the ball and changing it. Screw England and their weak ***** bowling attack without swing. These ass-clowns would start crying on the pitch if they had to regulary bowl in sub continent pitches with stewie broad leading the pack. What a bunch of b*tches.
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