G_B_ Posted August 25, 2013 Posted August 25, 2013 Ashley Giles expect to take over from Zimbabwean that led England to three successive Ashes triumphs Andy Flower will leave his job as England’s team director after the winter Ashes series in Australia, writes Dave Kidd in the The Sunday People. One-day coach Ashley Giles is expected to take control of the England team in all forms of the game in January. Flower, 45, has led England to three straight Ashes triumphs and an historic Test success in India as well as a brief spell at the top of the world rankings. But the Zimbabwean will leave his post by mutual consent, with former England spinner Giles his heir apparent. Giles took over as limited-overs coach at the start of this year with Flower looking to spend less time away on tour. But despite Flower’s extraordinary successes over the past five years, there is now a feeling within the ECB that he has run his course. Even though England are set to complete a 3-0 series victory over the Aussies at The Oval today, there have been concerns that the team have been too cautious and negative under Flower’s leadership. It is also felt that England’s cricketers have become too insular inside Flower’s ‘team bubble’ – with their PR skills often laughably poor. Giles, a more relaxed individual, may improve that – but some ECB insiders believe skipper Alastair Cook needs a coach who will encourage a more positive approach to Test cricket if England are to regain world No.1 status. England face Australia again between November and January – but that will be the end of Flower’s involvement. Giles, 40, a playing hero in the epic 2005 Ashes success, coached Warwickshire to the County Championship last season before taking over England’s 50-over and Twenty20 teams. There are suggestions that Flower could now remain at the ECB in an office role but he is likely to move into county cricket coaching, where moneybags Surrey have a vacancy. Check out all the latest News, Sport & Celeb gossip at Mirror.co.uk http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricket/andy-flower-leave-england-job-2218593#ixzz2cygqgtNl Follow us: @DailyMirror on Twitter | DailyMirror on Facebook
G_B_ Posted August 25, 2013 Author Posted August 25, 2013 I am sure he will. He has said in the past that he will do that for free. Will probably help Zim outside the county season for 6 months for free. His brother is the coach of Zim anyways
cowboysfan Posted August 25, 2013 Posted August 25, 2013 he is not leaving,he is going on the recruitment drive through south africa and Zimbabwe to poach some more players.
Pagalpanti Posted August 25, 2013 Posted August 25, 2013 Doesn't Fletcher's contract end around the same time, if SA tour goes south (probably will). Wont be surprised if BCCI grab him.
G_B_ Posted August 25, 2013 Author Posted August 25, 2013 I doubt Flower will take the BCCI job. I do believe the last job at Surrey paid to the tune of £150,000 a year. He will probably aim for that. Its much less than what he earns with England (which adds upto £500,000 with endorsement percentages etc) but its in London. He is still a young man in coaching years. 45 and probably easily has another 10 years in coaching minimum. I am sure he has a family which whom he will want to spend about 5 years or so before taking another big job at international level.
maniac Posted August 25, 2013 Posted August 25, 2013 Flower's style of working will not work for BCCI....WIll be another Chappell level of disaster. Anyways He should help Zimbabwe
Crookbond Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 No intention of stepping down: Flower http://www.wisdenindia.com/cricket-news/intention-stepping-down-flower/73393
StriKe Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 No intention of stepping down: Flower http://www.wisdenindia.com/cricket-news/intention-stepping-down-flower/73393 What about now ?
Cricketics Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 Poor Ashley Giles. He doesn't know that he is going to take over an English side which is going to lose at home to his favorite team - India. He might face a sack himself then.
bulbul Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 lol @ posters saying he has to go and help Zim , seriously Zimababwe issue is not in trainign or players, its political.Their cricket is over. Also i doubt he can go back there as he along with olonga protested against Mugabe.
StriKe Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 Flower's time is up, England need a fresh approach All the qualities that once rendered Andy Flower the perfect man for the job - his intensity, his attention to detail and his demanding personality - have now become the reasons he needs to go It is a simply a question of 'when' not 'if' now. England's defeat in Melbourne - and the manner of it - has rendered Andy Flower's position as coach all-but untenable. Flower has done a magnificent job. Appointed with the team in disarray - he inherited a side who had just sacked their captain and coach and, in his first game in charge saw the side bowled out for 51 in Jamaica - he instilled a discipline and unity of purpose that saw the team rise to No. 1 in the rankings in all three formats. He was exactly the man required when appointed and has exceeded expectations. Despite recent events, he should still go with his head held high and great pride in what he has achieved. But all things must pass. All the qualities that once rendered Flower the perfect man for the job - his intensity, his attention to detail and his demanding personality - have now become the reasons he needs to go. England need refreshing. They need to rediscover their joy in playing the game. They need a change. For that reason, it is highly likely that, sometime over the next few days or weeks - probably in the aftermath of the Sydney Test - Flower will take the decision to resign. He will reflect on what he has seen and come to an honest decision over whether he is the man to inspire a resurgence in this England team. Anyone who has seen them disintegrate over recent weeks can come to only one conclusion. He will not be sacked. An odd situation has arisen where there is arguably no-one with the authority to do so. Hugh Morris, the managing director of England cricket, has just stepped down and it is asking a great deal of his successor, Paul Downton, to make such a decision on his first week in the job. David Collier, the chief executive, is more suited to overseeing financial matters and long-term planning, while the idea that a non-paid chairman like Giles Clarke could take such a decision is ludicrous. Despite the current debacle, the ECB will not be without a succession plan. Ashley Giles remains the frontrunner to take control of the England teams in all formats and with a new head coach invariably comes a new back-room team which means the roles of Graham Gooch, the batting coach, and David Saker, the bowling coach, are extremely vulnerable especially after the batting collapses during this tour and the lack of a role for any of England's tall quicks. To have picked a side with an inadequate reserve wicketkeeper, a lack of reserve opening batsmen, three tall drinks waiters and a reserve spinner who came into the tour with serious doubts over his readiness to return to this level, has been proven to be folly Graeme Welch, Giles' right-hand man when he oversaw Warwickshire County Championship success in 2012, will be a strong contender for the bowling role and Paul Collingwood would be a viable candidate for the batting role. Graham Thorpe would, in normal circumstances, be a favourite for the batting position due to his links with England Lions but there is some doubt over his willingness to tour. There may be questions about Alastair Cook's captaincy, too. Again, it is highly unlikely that Cook will be sacked. Rightly so, too: it is only a year since he led England to victory in India, and a few months since the previous Ashes and a home season that included taking the side to the brink of their first global ODI trophy. However, though he said what he had to after the Melbourne defeat, whether Cook has the appetite for the challenge after this dispiriting reverse remains to be seen. As his senior spinner wilted and his wicketkeeper flapped like a drowning seal, Cook looked a broken man on the fourth day. Stuart Broad, the captain of the Twenty20 side, and Ian Bell, the Test vice-captain and a particularly impressive leader at domestic level, would be the only viable candidates to replace him. The selectors need to reflect on their contribution to the current state of disarray, too. To have picked a side with an inadequate reserve wicketkeeper, a lack of reserve opening batsmen, three tall drinks waiters and a reserve spinner who came into the tour with serious doubts over his readiness to return to this level, has been proven to be folly. Several of those errors could have been averted had they simply taken more notice of results in county cricket. While there will be the inevitable calls for a complete cull from the side, that would prove a mistake. Kevin Pietersen remains, whatever his army of critics say, the prize wicket for every opposition side, while James Anderson showed in Melbourne that he remains a skilful operator. England's early bowling on the fourth morning by Anderson, Broad and Ben Stokes was impressive. They created four chances before lunch but, partly due to Jonny Bairstow's obvious deficiencies with the gloves, two of them went begging. Suffice it to say, Matt Prior had a good game in Melbourne. However, it's hard to see how changes won't be made for Sydney. Tim Bresnan and Michael Carberry are vulnerable but Monty Panesar, slinging down his left-arm medium pace with a horribly ragged action, was wretched and will almost certainly be replaced by the young legspinner Scott Borthwick. Borthwick is not the finished article but as a fine fielder, a decent batsman and a fresh face, he offers hope for the future. And, in a grim chapter for England cricket, hope is about the best that can be offered. http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013-14/content/current/story/705075.html
Scarves Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 Doesn't Fletcher's contract end around the same time' date=' if SA tour goes south (probably will). Wont be surprised if BCCI grab him.[/quote'] I remember Ponting saying that there are good coaches that do a lot like Simmo, Swampy, Mickey, Buchnan, Kirsten and co but he said that Fletcher is basically crap. Not in his words or in the book like that but he says that Fletcher is a hack more or less. South Africa has Domingo, they are fine.
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