Brainfade Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 An increasing number of colleges of naturopathy, chiropractic and acupunture therapy are gaining traction in establishing themselves as trainers of primary care physicians. I am not convinced that any of these practices have the weight of evidence-based practices behind them, and must not be given the privileges of primary care physicians with MDs or DOs. Any opinions? Are they legitimate medical practices? Should they qualify as PCPs? As wellness trainers? Should they be eligible for insurance payments?
IKnowU Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 Not like they dont already open up clinics and run them like medical centres in some areas.
Brainfade Posted October 8, 2013 Author Posted October 8, 2013 Not like they dont already open up clinics and run them like medical centres in some areas. But should they become part of the mainstream on par with MDs? Have physician privileges?
randomGuy Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 But should they become part of the mainstream on par with MDs? Have physician privileges? I think no. They should come under alternative therapists and most of the procedures they do should be covered by insurance.
Jersey #10 Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 That's like asking if the IT people should be considered Engineers. Most of these Computer science graduates go around calling themselves engineers.
Jersey #10 Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 How far can one go? I don't even consider detists as doctors.
randomGuy Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 How far can one go? I don't even consider detists as doctors. Dentists are more doctors than psychiatrists even though dentists aren't called doctors. Dentistry is quite useful.
Jersey #10 Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 Dentists are more doctors than psychiatrists even though dentists aren't called doctors. Dentistry is quite useful. All of them are useful. Dentists simply don't have the depth of knowldge of medicine as a proper doctor with an MD. It's degrading to the MD's to call dentists doctors. What's next? physical therapists are doctors b/c they're useful?
randomGuy Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 All of them are useful. Dentists simply don't have the depth of knowldge of medicine as a proper doctor with an MD. It's degrading to the MD's to call dentists doctors. What's next? physical therapists are doctors b/c they're useful? 1. An MBBS without an MS/MD is also a doctor . 2. A dentist is way way more useful for people than psychiatrist. Many learned people do not consider psychiatry useful at all.
coffee_rules Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 Dentists simply don't have the depth of knowldge of medicine as a proper doctor with an MD. It's degrading to the MD's to call dentists doctors. Yes, I agree. I have seen people doing Bcom later switching to BDS and practicing dentistry.
Detonator Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 The title "doctor" shouldn't be used, right term would be "practitioner (of alternative medicine)." Any alternative medicine with a proper and strict regulation, along with solid evidence, can be considered and those practitioners with expertise can be called as doctors. But in India, even the witch doctor claims to be on par with a surgeon. I need to search in internet whether these are actually regulated in India. Naturopathy - It's a medical miracle that people believe this crap. This practice doesn't have any form of evidence. Acupunture - This is an ancient chinese method, but like siddha/unani it's no longer used properly. Chiropractic - This has a very limited usage for joint pains. Can be compared to massage or something.
Detonator Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 All of them are useful. Dentists simply don't have the depth of knowldge of medicine as a proper doctor with an MD. It's degrading to the MD's to call dentists doctors. What's next? physical therapists are doctors b/c they're useful? Dentistry is a speciality (tooth, oral and gum care) just like an orthology, otolaryngology, gastrology or an anaesthesia. The difference is many specialities are post graduation courses that requires a MD or MBBS, while dentistry dont need a prerequisite. The reason is dentists dont need to learn in depth about any other parts of body to perform an oral surgery. BDS does cover the basics of MBBS course.
Jersey #10 Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 Dentistry is a speciality (tooth' date=' oral and gum care) just like an orthology, otolaryngology, gastrology or an anaesthesia. The difference is many specialities are post graduation courses that requires a MD or MBBS, while dentistry dont need a prerequisite. [b']The reason is dentists dont need to learn in depth about any other parts of body to perform an oral surgery. BDS does cover the basics of MBBS course. The reason why they're not medicinal doctors. They are dentists and that's about it. 80% of the kids that become dentists are those who don't get into medicinal schools. It's inappropriate to throw around the word "doctor" like that.
urbestfriend Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 I think no. They should come under alternative therapists and most of the procedures they do should be covered by insurance. Doesnt matter whether you allow them to call themselves as doctor or not, but insurance should be applicable for alternative therapies too. There are many health problems that cant be addressed by mainstream medicine and people go for alternative therapies which should be covered by insurance.
Detonator Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 The reason why they're not medicinal doctors. They are dentists and that's about it. 80% of the kids that become dentists are those who don't get into medicinal schools. It's inappropriate to throw around the word "doctor" like that. By that logic, a person with just MBBS cant be called doctor, they r just a "medic". Then only MD graduates are real doctors. :D Technically, a person who is an expert in a specific field can be called as a "doctor" :sherlock: Its not inappropriate. :dontknow: In many countries, they are refered "Doctors of oral health" except few like UK, they ve no right to claim as a doctor.
maniac Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 I beleive Chiropractors in some states(may be just one) can prescribe medicine.....If you get the license to prescribe medication you are a doctor in my book....But no The 3 mentioned professions are not doctors in my book
maniac Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 The reason why they're not medicinal doctors. They are dentists and that's about it. 80% of the kids that become dentists are those who don't get into medicinal schools. It's inappropriate to throw around the word "doctor" like that. You are either ignorant or trying to play along with the joke from the hangover movie....Say that to a dentist next time when he knocks you out during a tooth extraction
Jersey #10 Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 You are either ignorant or trying to play along with the joke from the hangover movie....Say that to a dentist next time when he knocks you out during a tooth extraction by that, dentists are "wanna-be doctors".
Jersey #10 Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 By that logic, a person with just MBBS cant be called doctor, they r just a "medic". Then only MD graduates are real doctors. :D Technically, a person who is an expert in a specific field can be called as a "doctor" :sherlock: Its not inappropriate. :dontknow: In many countries, they are refered "Doctors of oral health" except few like UK, they ve no right to claim as a doctor. now you're getting into a whole different argument. We're talking about medicinal doctors. I don't know how MBBS works in India. I am talking about MD vs the others.
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