vvvslaxman Posted November 3, 2013 Author Posted November 3, 2013 As Ram had mentioned in other thread attitude of modern batsmen has changed completely. There used to be parts like caution(new ball), consolidation (middle overs), acceleration (end overs), then acceleration inside power plays came into play. They have all merged into one "acceleration".. no fear of losing wickets. If we give the exact same rules, same grounds to a team with an attitude of 90s they would at best get to 275 to 300.
Magneto Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 We scored 392 at Hamilton in 2009. Venues with most 300+ ODI totals Karachi 18 ColomboRPS 15 BulawayoQSC 14 Jo'burg 14 Bangalore 13 Centurion 11 Dhaka 10 Sharjah 10 This post nails it Karachi is the mother of all roads. All roads start from Karachi? :dontknow:
the don Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 True , but pakistan would not need anywhere near that kind of total to win , as we saw in the thrashing handed out to india last time pakistan toured , winning the series with a game to spare. India struggles to beat pakistan even at home , batsmen or no batsmen :agree:
Old guy Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 True ' date=' but pakistan would not need anywhere near that kind of total to win , as we saw in the thrashing handed out to india last time pakistan toured , winning the series with a game to spare. India struggles to beat pakistan even at home , batsmen or no batsmen :agree:[/quote'] yeah playing series where average score was 200 is totally similar to this series :two_thumbs_up: and that was not even same team the while top order is different here
vvvslaxman Posted November 3, 2013 Author Posted November 3, 2013 True ' date=' but pakistan would not need anywhere near that kind of total to win , as we saw in the thrashing handed out to india last time pakistan toured , winning the series with a game to spare. India struggles to beat pakistan even at home , batsmen or no batsmen :agree:[/quote'] How about the thrashing you got in CT or in Asia cup. We are talking about similar tracks. Kevin O Brien scored 80 odd runs in 47 balls against your "vaunted" bowling attack. An associated team ripped your bowling to shreds. One fluke series won't make your bowling great. We scored at rate of knotts even in tests against you when VIru was around.
vvvslaxman Posted November 3, 2013 Author Posted November 3, 2013 yeah playing series where average score was 200 is totally similar to this series :two_thumbs_up: and that was not even same team the while top order is different here Pak fans excuse of "we don't need to score 300" should be translated into "We can't dream of scoring 200 let alone 300" . We have done what you have done.. defending low totals. But you have not done what we have done. scaling 350 totals !!
Old guy Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Pak fans excuse of "we don't need to score 300" should be translated into "We can't dream of scoring 200 let alone 300" . We have done what you have done.. defending low totals. But you have not done what we have done. scaling 350 totals !! for me their bowling is over ratd while our batting deserves all the credit . on similar pitches we have defended 180 against pak and 120 in CT final and gunned down teams under 250 almsot every time in CT .. tell me last time pak chased anything close to 300 ..forget 350!
NareshK Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Pak fans excuse of "we don't need to score 300" should be translated into "We can't dream of scoring 200 let alone 300" . We have done what you have done.. defending low totals. But you have not done what we have done. scaling 350 totals !! Don't make comparisons with minnow nations like Pakistan. They got beaten by Zimbabwe ffs and their bowlers are overrated as we saw how they got thrashed in Champions Trophy and in Ireland. The less said about their "batsmen" the better :hysterical:
the don Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 . One fluke series won't make your bowling great. We scored at rate of knotts even in tests against you when VIru was around. lol a wholeseries was a fluke ??.pakistan beating india in a series is no fluke , its a regular occurence , jamshed and shoai malik have made a living out of thrashing indian bowlers on those flat tracks :((
vvvslaxman Posted November 3, 2013 Author Posted November 3, 2013 Pak has the worst batting lineup ever and has been this way for decades no one bar misbah knows how to hold a bat at the moment and the fellows dumped upon by their fans. Their bowlers need help from sleeves and foreign objects and material. Cannot field to save their lives. Are not 'allowed' to play at home nor are they invited any where on the planet. Pakistan cricket :hysterical: Just look at their strike rate.. It would have been considered poor even in the 80s lol. IN the last 3 years Azhar Ali 64.84 Ahmed Shehzad 67.15 Imran Farhat 67.36 Misba 69.45 Malik 70.06 Asad Shafiq 70.13 Nasir Jamshed 71.35
vvvslaxman Posted November 3, 2013 Author Posted November 3, 2013 lol a wholeseries was a fluke ??.pakistan beating india in a series is no fluke ' date=' its a regular occurence , jamshed and shoai malik have made a living out of thrashing indian bowlers on those flat tracks :(([/quote'] Kohli murdering Ajmal > anything else. Besides..Scoring against Indian bowling is easy for most teams. What is your batting record against other teams?
StriKe Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Just look at their strike rate.. It would have been considered poor even in the 80s lol. IN the last 3 years Azhar Ali 64.84 Ahmed Shehzad 67.15 Imran Farhat 67.36 Misba 69.45 Malik 70.06 Asad Shafiq 70.13 Nasir Jamshed 71.35 Don't you know ? 150 is the new 300 for pakistan team ?
vvvslaxman Posted November 3, 2013 Author Posted November 3, 2013 Highway to Hell ... song is what comes to my mind!! [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt9oXIQusVI]Dhoni helicopter shot recent updated new style-india vs australia 7th odi - YouTube[/ame] Beastological ( just made up a word)
carnish Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Truly speaking Beasts from top sides: India -- Dhoni, Kohli, Rohit, Dhawan, Raina, Yuvraj Pakistan - Afridi(for maximum 6 balls) Australia - Maxwell, Watson, Finch, Faulkner West Indies - Gayle, Pollard, Charles, Smith, Sammy, Bravo, Samuels South Africa - De Villiers, Faf, Peterson New Zealand - Taylor, McCullum England - Morgan, Bopara, Hales, Kieswetter, Pietersen, Wright Basically its just three teams that can go beastly on such pitches if needed ... India, Australia and West Indies.
Vijay.Sharma Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 It seems India has a knck of big hitting and big leakin. An insightful analysis here - http://www.espncricinfo.com/blogs/content/story/683867.html
vvvslaxman Posted November 3, 2013 Author Posted November 3, 2013 It seems India has a knck of big hitting and big leakin. An insightful analysis here - http://www.espncricinfo.com/blogs/content/story/683867.html Reverse logic is when others play India they go after above par totals because of Indian batting might.
maniac Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Reverse logic is when others play India they go after above par totals because of Indian batting might. Oh welcome back.....I thought you disappeared out of the stadium as part of the 16 6's yesterday :giggle:
vvvslaxman Posted November 3, 2013 Author Posted November 3, 2013 Oh welcome back.....I thought you disappeared out of the stadium as part of the 16 6's yesterday :giggle: come on when you stay here after 3 years of mediocrity, can't i stay here for one day :cantstop:
Vijay.Sharma Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Reverse logic is when others play India they go after above par totals because of Indian batting might.That's exactly what the data says. In fact it says that India's bowling is of such low quality that most batting line-ups score against us but just that our batting line-up is better than them
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