Should Kedar Jadhav be picked in the limited overs sides? [UPDATED 3 YEARS LATER]

[TNAmarkFrmIndia]

Dhawan got a 248 in South Africa A tour,Unadkat had some great A tours in the past....As I said A tours are not a great benchmark because the pitches are never like what they would be in an international scenario. Here is how players should be blooded into team. U-19 Identify special talents and groom them,give them exposure. Track their first 2 seasons progress in domestics...For international LOI's track them at IPL level too(nothing wrong) Let them play in A tours. Then give them a shot.

If selectors ignored the late bloomers, we wouldn't have the likes of Matthew Hayden, Michael Hussey, Brad Hodge etc. There isn't any one specific way of producing talent. If a 29 year old performs considerably better than any other 21-22 year old in the domestic set-up, makes sense to put him in the squad first. You're trying to create another Virat Kohli, but not everyone can become a Virat Kohli.

As I said Jadhav earned his shot but he didn't earn the mantle of being the next big thing in Indian cricket like some of them were hyping him to be.

And you've judged that already based on one match? Talk about patience...

[maniac]

If selectors ignored the late bloomers, we wouldn't have the likes of Matthew Hayden, Michael Hussey, Brad Hodge etc. There isn't any one specific way of producing talent. If a 29 year old performs considerably better than any other 21-22 year old in the domestic set-up, makes sense to put him in the squad first. You're trying to create another Virat Kohli, but not everyone can become a Virat Kohli. And you've judged that already based on one match? Talk about patience...

The Likes of Hussey or any batsman that has a lot of domestic experience has something called Match awareness and alertness to situations.... Let us take the example of Uthappa who has been away from international cricket for a while and also trying to make an impact in the team...His 12 runs in that Rohit Sharma partnership was a very good innings in the context of how he gave the in form and well set batsman the strike...perfect awareness to the situation. Now take Jadhav for example,He got a fair start..all he had to do was stay on the wicket and let Kohli handle the rest but he looked all at sea. Now Jadhav might be better than Uthappa as a batsman but clearly we can see who has better awareness...you can't give the excuse that he was nervous for someone who apparently has played domestics for like ever.

[Crookbond]

I would (at this stage) back Uthappa over Jadhav.

[Precambrian]

And Kohli was hollering to be given strike. No wonder he expressed his unhappiness at the end of match. He would've finished off the match by 45th over had he given strike by these guys. Uthappa tried his best, but Binny and Jadhav just ****ed it up. Jadhav especially seemed like he wanted glory to himself. The way he got out was pathetic as well. Jumped out of the crease and yorked himself.

[Precambrian]

Just checked the records, Out of the 31 balls their partnership lasted, Jadhav vornered 24 balls to himself, Virat got just 7 balls. This at a time when Virat was so close to his 100. A lesser batsman would've lost all momentum due to lack of strike and committed harakiri. But credit to Virat. in fact during the crucial four powerplay overs between 35-39 overs, Jadhav retained strike for 19 balls. That's notoriously pathetic.

[CoverDrive]

lets give him atleast 10% of chances guys like rohit have got

[renjith]

I hope people who are commenting about jadhavs shortcomings in first match do understand the pressure of making intl debut and coming into bat at a crunch situation. He was a bit overawed by the situation. I was expecting kohli to calm him down a bit after the square-cut boundary after which he was showing over excitement. I still have doubts over how rayudu will handle quality fast bowlers in bouncy pitches in aus and it will be good to have jadhav as a backup middle order batsman in world cup team.

[TNAmarkFrmIndia]

The Likes of Hussey or any batsman that has a lot of domestic experience has something called Match awareness and alertness to situations.... Let us take the example of Uthappa who has been away from international cricket for a while and also trying to make an impact in the team...His 12 runs in that Rohit Sharma partnership was a very good innings in the context of how he gave the in form and well set batsman the strike...perfect awareness to the situation. Now take Jadhav for example,He got a fair start..all he had to do was stay on the wicket and let Kohli handle the rest but he looked all at sea. Now Jadhav might be better than Uthappa as a batsman but clearly we can see who has better awareness...you can't give the excuse that he was nervous for someone who apparently has played domestics for like ever.

Hussey got enough opportunities to prove his match awareness when he got picked. Uthappa got picked from the 4th ODI rather than the 5th and is more favoured by the selectors as he has been picked often before and will be picked again in the future. In Kedar Jadhav's case, he got picked for the last ODI game that India plays this year (I believe) and with the World Cup coming up soon. Had he played a quite little innings, even if it was best for the team, he would have lost his place again for no fault of his own. He most likely felt the need to prove his case strongly in the only opportunity he got and hence played the way he did. If he didn't have the pressure of losing his place in the team and got a consistent run, then maybe he would've played smarter than he did.

[vijay50]

Hussey got enough opportunities to prove his match awareness when he got picked. Uthappa got picked from the 4th ODI rather than the 5th and is more favoured by the selectors as he has been picked often before and will be picked again in the future. In Kedar Jadhav's case' date=' he got picked for the last ODI game that India plays this year (I believe) and with the World Cup coming up soon. Had he played a quite little innings, even if it was best for the team, he would have lost his place again for no fault of his own. He most likely felt the need to prove his case strongly in the only opportunity he got and hence played the way he did. If he didn't have the pressure of losing his place in the team and got a consistent run, then maybe he would've played smarter than he did.[/quote'] +++++

[vijay50]

Just checked the records, Out of the 31 balls their partnership lasted, Jadhav vornered 24 balls to himself, Virat got just 7 balls. This at a time when Virat was so close to his 100. A lesser batsman would've lost all momentum due to lack of strike and committed harakiri. But credit to Virat. in fact during the crucial four powerplay overs between 35-39 overs, Jadhav retained strike for 19 balls. That's notoriously pathetic.

Srini, have mercy on him and give chances to him again. Dont make a call to Shivlal Yadav and drop him because of one game and not giving strike to Virat.

[TNAmarkFrmIndia]

Bump.

[TNAmarkFrmIndia]

Ever since Kedar Jadhav started hitting the nets at the P.Y.C. Hindu Gymkhana here regularly, the training sessions have invariably been followed by coffee at Vaishali, one of the most popular hangouts in his hometown.

As he rose through the ranks — from breaking into Maharashtra’s Ranji squad almost a decade ago to emerging as its batting mainstay to earning lucrative IPL contracts and to wearing the India jersey — his visits to Vaishali have reduced gradually.

On Monday, a day after his whirlwind 76-ball 120 in the series-opening ODI against England, Jadhav was the talk of the town, especially at Vaishali.

 

 

 

Even as Jadhav joined his family at home, regulars at the joint were dissecting his innings and basking in the glory of a fellow Vaishalian.

Every competitive sportsperson wishes to get a packed gallery rooting for him. That Jadhav managed to do it while playing in front of family, friends and a few detractors in the State association shows the confidence that the diminutive 32-year-old has in his abilities.

However, even when the full house at the Maharashtra Cricket Association Stadium started chanting “Jaaadhav, Jaaadhav” and “Kayyyyydar, Kayyyyydar” on Sunday night, a majority of the locals would have been unaware that Jadhav was the first MCA cricketer to have featured in an international match at his home ground.

 

In fact, many would not have known that they were chanting for a fellow Punekar. That’s how low-key Jadhav has been for most of his cricketing career.

The son of a retired clerk in the State electricity board, Jadhav’s is a typical rags-to-riches story.

He has been blazing his blade for Maharashtra for almost a decade and has been a regular on India-A tours for half the period and for the last three years, he has been part of India’s second-string squads against Zimbabwe.

Jadhav got his first full series at home, against New Zealand in October. While his part-time off-spin was impressive, he had a reasonable outing with the bat.

More than celebrating his valuable unbeaten 39 in the deciding rubber in Visakhapatnam, Jadhav was sulking over being unable to see the team through after getting set in the second game in New Delhi.

“He himself realised that he had wasted an opportunity to nail a match on his own while batting at No. 6, a position where one’s failure is often highlighted more than success,” says Surendra Bhave, Jadhav’s mentor.

 

“He knew that he had to capitalise on the next possible opportunity and it was so heartening to see him do it here.”

After having broken into the India squad when he was on the verge of entering the thirties, Jadhav realised the importance of getting fitter to cope with the challenges of professional cricket.

As part of his re-jigged fitness regimen, he shed the tag of vegetarian in a quest to consume nutritional food.

The fact that he matched Kohli, both in terms of shot-making and running between the wickets, on Sunday night before suffering from cramps late in his onslaught was a clear indicator that the efforts are paying off.

With him being a regular in the IPL frenzy, school kids closely follow his performance in the summer.

But not many in the city realise that he is one of them.

As a result, even during the IPL, Jadhav could relax with his friends — be it at Vaishali or the Stadium Restaurant at Churchgate in Mumbai — even during the IPL. After Sunday night’s blast, it looks unlikely that he can afford such a luxury anymore.

[TNAmarkFrmIndia]

Find of the series?

[Malcolm Merlyn]

Yes

[TNAmarkFrmIndia]

Interesting to read the replies now looking back. Lot of people had a bias against Kedar Jadhav without even having watched him bat, saying he was weak against the short ball, that he didn't have the x-factor, that he wasn't cut out for international cricket etc. Now people feel he should've been picked years ago.

[Forever Indian]

On 8/29/2014 at 3:43 PM, Forever Indian said:

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I've been following Indian cricket for 30+ years and there have been numerous players who have fallen by the wayside, thanks to selectorial whims. This may be the worst blunder of them all. He has the numbers, the consistency, is in good form and we need some new blood in our middle-order. From what I hear, he is a solid fielder too. Not sure what the problem is.

Also was MOS in recent A tour of Australia. Don't know what else he needs to prove. If age was the factor, then we would have never seen a Michael Hussey. 30 is when most batsmen would be at their peak, so this is THE time to pick him atleast in ODIs for starts.

People were taking about his age 2.5 years ago, and did that now as well until this series started. As I posted then, we would not have had a Hussey or Misbah-ul-Haq even debut if their age was taken into consideration.

[TNAmarkFrmIndia]

4 minutes ago, Forever Indian said:

People were taking about his age 2.5 years ago, and did that now as well until this series started. As I posted then, we would not have had a Hussey or Misbah-ul-Haq even debut if their age was taken into consideration.

Kedar Jadhav definitely is a late bloomer. Played his debut first-class match in the 2007/08 season. His performance at the domestic level was just too good to ignore not just in first-class cricket but also List A. I guess Dhoni already had a squad set in mind for the 2015 World Cup, which is fair, but they should've pushed for him and other new players post that.

[Texan]

1 hour ago, TNAmarkFrmIndia said:

Interesting to read the replies now looking back. Lot of people had a bias against Kedar Jadhav without even having watched him bat, saying he was weak against the short ball, that he didn't have the x-factor, that he wasn't cut out for international cricket etc. Now people feel he should've been picked years ago.

Proves that sometimes you should just trust domestic cricket performances and give domestic performers a chance to prove themselves too. We often just want to play same teams and same players all over again and this was exaggerated during Dhoni's tenure who was reluctant to try new players unless he himself had vouched for those players. 

 

After successes of Steven Smith, Chanderpaul, Younis Khan (to an extent), one thing to learn from them is that the textbook technique might be a bit overrated. What is needed to see is whether a player with whatever technique he possesses has the mental ability to make the most of it and score runs. 

[Forever Indian]

For those who did not follow the 2014 A tour to Australia, Kedhar Jadhav was not picked for the first 3 matches and still went on to win the Man of the Series award with his performance in 3 league matches and final.

 

These were his scores:

1st League match vs National Performance Squad: India A were 63/5 chasing 235 and Jadhav scored 87 from 53 balls

2nd League match vs Australia A: India A were 38/3 chasing 231 and Jadhav scored 52 from 50 balls

Final vs Australia A: India A were 51/3 chasing 275 and Jadhav scored 78 from 73 balls [against bowling of Kane Richardson, B Cutting, Mitchell Marsh, C McKay]

 

He regularly rescued the team from poor starts to win those matches. He ended up as the Man on the Series playing just half the number of matches, and was also the Man of the Match in Final.

 

That was when I actually started believing this guy should be in the ODI team asap. If he had been brought in at that time, I am sure India would have had a wonderful finisher for 2015 WC.

Edited January 22, 2017 by Forever Indian

[kosingh]

Shows why it's important to have a little bit of swagger and confidence. Not just in cricket, but in whatever job you do. Otherwise you may not get as easily noticed and moving up will be hard.

 

jadhav is almost too humble and shy. Maybe that is why he went under the radar so long. But his bat did ultimately do the talking despite his low profile personality.