Lord Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Irfan Pathan instead of Ashwin - gives variety, adds more strength to lower order batting and some experience too. PK, Munaf, RP will all take the team backwards IMO. Irfan has stopped bowling AFAIK.just playing as a batsman these days in FC. maybe Zak should retire in Tests and focus in ODIs :hmmm: Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Irfan has stopped bowling AFAIK.just playing as a batsman these days in FC. maybe Zak should retire in Tests and focus in ODIs :hmmm: Thats correct. However, has failed as a batsman batting in middle order. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 should play only ODIs for now imo. need to manage him well Yeah. might play test in Aus. Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Aaron and Shami have lot of potential. They need a good bowling coach. India's current bowling coach is a fraud Agree. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Its the skipper does not know how to use , support and grrom In fact does not want them and they know it Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Irfan has stopped bowling AFAIK.just playing as a batsman these days in FC. maybe Zak should retire in Tests and focus in ODIs :hmmm: Agree. Zak will be more useful in ODIs than tests. IN ODIs, he can bowl 10 overs of good intensity in 3 spells while in test he will bowl 30-40 overs with no intensity. In ODIs, bowlers have more pressure on them than tests and these are young inexperienced bowlers. You do not need to play Zak every match. Rotate them which will guy like Shami a breathing space and will take the pressure off a bit. Link to comment
Lord Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Yeah. might play test in Aus. yeah.even in England.Yadav,Shami and Pandey can be good attack Link to comment
Lord Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Agree. Zak will be more useful in ODIs than tests. IN ODIs' date=' he can bowl 10 overs of good intensity in 3 spells while in test he will bowl 30-40 overs with no intensity. In ODIs, bowlers have more pressure on them than tests and these are young inexperienced bowlers. You do not need to play Zak every match. Rotate them which will guy like Shami a breathing space and will take the pressure off a bit.[/quote'] also he can mentor the young pacers on the field and tell them what to do. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 we are lacking a senior bowler.Zak is done.he used to mentor Ishant in his early days Ishant has wasted all that.should have been dependable by now Ishant went too far and started copying Zak :WTF: and was telling this to reporters proudly. :giggle: Link to comment
saneindian Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Irfan has stopped bowling AFAIK.just playing as a batsman these days in FC. maybe Zak should retire in Tests and focus in ODIs :hmmm: Naah that was because Baroda wanted him to play as batsman and he wasn't fit enough to bowl. While, regular injuries and inconsistent form have played a major role in his career, Irfan was happy to be back in business. Playing for Baroda as a specialist batsman, Irfan says the next few weeks are going to be extremely crucial for him. "I am back among runs, and now the next target is to start bowling regularly. I have to be completely match-fit in the next few weeks and I am working hard for that," Irfan said. The speedster has been advised by the physio to take things easy, and Irfan says the formula has worked well for him. "I am happy with the way I have batted, and it's really been a morale booster for me. Once I start bowling regularly, things would only get better," Irfan said. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2014-01-08/interviews/45990181_1_irfan-pathan-all-rounder-irfan-indian-team Report dated 8th Jan 2014 Should be back bowling in the domestic one dayers. Link to comment
Lord Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Ishant went too far and started copying Zak :WTF: and was telling this to reporters proudly. :giggle: I remember in WI series saying that even he has no idea which way ball will swing so batsmen won't :hysterical: Link to comment
Lord Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Naah that was because Baroda wanted him to play as batsman and he wasn't fit enough to bowl. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2014-01-08/interviews/45990181_1_irfan-pathan-all-rounder-irfan-indian-team Report dated 8th Jan 2014 Should be back bowling in the domestic one dayers. thats good news.If he gets the swing back,can be very handy.left armer is always harder to play when its swinging in to RHB Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Shami, Umesh, Aaron, BK and Pandey are the best bets we have as of now. Dhawal Kulkarni and Pankaj Singh are the other choices. We need to stick with this lot unless somebody better comes along. We should not chop and change unnecessarily. No point going back to the old failures. Our biggest problem has been the lack of tall, deck hitting bowlers who can bowl accurately. Even if they bowl in the 130s, it is ok. Since Pankaj Singh won't be taken, we need to find someone new who fits this spec. We need a better bowling coach. Link to comment
CG Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 thats good news.If he gets the swing back' date='can be very handy.left armer is always harder to play when its swinging in to RHB[/quote'] Irfan is not the bowler he was even in 2008 cb series.He has fitness issues as well as bowling is club standard now.Unless he improves his bowling he will be of no improvement over ash win. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Shami, Umesh, Aaron, BK and Pandey are the best bets we have as of now. Dhawal Kulkarni and Pankaj Singh are the other choices. We need to stick with this lot unless somebody better comes along. We should not chop and change unnecessarily. No point going back to the old failures. Our biggest problem has been the lack of tall, deck hitting bowlers who can bowl accurately. Even if they bowl in the 130s, it is ok. Since Pankaj Singh won't be taken, we need to find someone new who fits this spec. We need a better bowling coach. Means we need at least one bowler like Mills who does not do too many things but hits good areas consistently and gets bounce as he is 6'5" and keeps the batsmen in check, so that bowlers from other end can be attacking. Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 thats good news.If he gets the swing back' date='can be very handy.left armer is always harder to play when its swinging in to RHB[/quote'] He made a excellent comeback against Aussies.I think that was Tri nation series and other series played at about that time.Got injured and still has fitness issues due to injuries. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 He made a excellent comeback against Aussies.I think that was Tri nation series and other series played at about that time.Got injured and still has fitness issues due to injuries. was mauled in Asia cup by Banglabandhus and got dropped. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Aaron is a bindaas GUNDA bowler of Indian team. If he is not a GUNDA bowler right now, he will be. I will give him a long rope. GUNDA bowler. Let's call him GUNDA guys. He's our fastest, so he deserves this name. GUNDA. Aaj Gunde ke pitayi ho gayi, but he is a good prospect. Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Means we need at least one bowler like Mills who does not do too many things but hits good areas consistently and gets bounce as he is 6'5" and keeps the batsmen in check' date=' so that bowlers from other end can be attacking.[/quote'] Tall, deck hitting, accurate pacers are generally the most economical bowlers over a length of time. Every team needs atleast one of these pacers. Even Southee is a similar bowler for NZ. Link to comment
Lord Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Aaron is a bindaas GUNDA bowler of Indian team. If he is not a GUNDA bowler right now, he will be. I will give him a long rope. GUNDA bowler. Let's call him GUNDA guys. He's our fastest, so he deserves this name. GUNDA. Aaj Gunde ke pitayi ho gayi, but he is a good prospect. :cantstop: Link to comment
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