skindia Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Uthappa builds inning also and can attack,he has shown in ipl and domestics,raina scores 20-30 quick only Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Uthappa at 6 is far better option that Rayudu's and Dinesh Karthik's. :protest: Link to comment
Number Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 BK is not bowling to take wickets but to contain that is why he has a good ER. Shami bowls to take wickets aggressively but has been expensive. You think he changed his approach in the last 4-5 months ? Link to comment
Sean Bradley Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Varun Aaron if groomed well, and used well by the captain, has all the potential to be a potent strike bowler, or the go to bowler as OP puts it here. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 You think he changed his approach in the last 4-5 months ? Look at yesterday as an example. He was troubling Kusal from over the wicket moving the ball away and into him, but suddenly, as soon as Thirimanne hit a boundary through off side, he started bowling from round the wicket and quite wide outside off and Thirimanne kept leaving them. He could have gotten a wicket or two from over the wicket as ball moved a bit in the air. Link to comment
Switchblade Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Trevor Penny is the fielding coach though last year we were brilliant in the field I feel that our fielders are complacent now Link to comment
vamos_rafa Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Has the arrogance and confidence to cope Will make him bat better Didn't know you need arrogance to cope with pressure... Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 ^ + Our ground fielding's has been as good as it was but nothing can be done when players drop club level dollies. Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 ab pata chala? :haha: Seriously, it's been our problem since decades. Link to comment
kubrickian Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 We generally do well when spinners take wickets. Even yesterday, Jadeja and Ashwin picked wickets and hence we got back into the match. It was the same thing in Champions Trophy, WI tri series or series at home. That's why we dont do well in conditions which dont help spinners because seamers are not consistent or good enough. Case in point, SA ODI series or NZ ODI series. We dont have a pool of seamers to rotate, hence the ones we play get burned out quickly. If we had a bigger pool, we could also play specialists for ODIs and tests to avoid injuries and keep them fresh. Honestly, seamers wont make a big difference in these conditions anyway and its not fair to expect much from them but when we play World Cup, we need them to deliver and have to play 4 seamers (3 seamers + 1 all rounder) and that's a department where we are lacking. Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 We generally do well when spinners take wickets. Even yesterday, Jadeja and Ashwin picked wickets and hence we got back into the match. It was the same thing in Champions Trophy, WI tri series or series at home. That's why we dont do well in conditions which dont help spinners because seamers are not consistent or good enough. Case in point, SA ODI series or NZ ODI series. We dont have a pool of seamers to rotate, hence the ones we play get burned out quickly. If we had a bigger pool, we could also play specialists for ODIs and tests to avoid injuries and keep them fresh. Honestly, seamers wont make a big difference in these conditions anyway and its not fair to expect much from them but when we play World Cup, we need them to deliver and have to play 4 seamers (3 seamers + 1 all rounder) and that's a department where we are lacking. Good post :two_thumbs_up: Link to comment
Marut Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Not a lot of teams have a go to bowler. Collective bowling effort is the key to success. Instead of expecting one bowler to pick up 5 wickets, expect five of your bowlers to bowl out the opposition. Given his experience, Ishant should have been the go to bowler by now, but he is still a "go away" bowler. Rest of the team is very young, and assuming everything goes right from here, it will take at least 2 years for a go to bowler to emerge. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 We generally do well when spinners take wickets. Even yesterday, Jadeja and Ashwin picked wickets and hence we got back into the match. It was the same thing in Champions Trophy, WI tri series or series at home. That's why we dont do well in conditions which dont help spinners because seamers are not consistent or good enough. Case in point, SA ODI series or NZ ODI series. We dont have a pool of seamers to rotate, hence the ones we play get burned out quickly. If we had a bigger pool, we could also play specialists for ODIs and tests to avoid injuries and keep them fresh. Honestly, seamers wont make a big difference in these conditions anyway and its not fair to expect much from them but when we play World Cup, we need them to deliver and have to play 4 seamers (3 seamers + 1 all rounder) and that's a department where we are lacking. Actually, in CT, spinners alone did not won us games. Fast bowlers always gave initial breakthroughs in most matches which spinners capitalized on because conditions suited them and even in NZ, we got 1-2 early break through in every match in first 10-12 overs of pace, which spinners could not capitalize because conditions were not suiting them. Link to comment
rainy day Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Shami is a pretty good 'go to bowler', picks wickets whenever he comes to bowl usually. Link to comment
India-KXIP fan Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 ^Agree :--D But isn't there anyone else? I remember Menaria striking it well in one of the home A games. Link to comment
kubrickian Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Actually' date=' in CT, spinners alone did not won us games. Fast bowlers always gave initial breakthroughs in most matches which spinners capitalized on because conditions suited them and even in NZ, we got 1-2 early break through in every match in first 10-12 overs of pace, which spinners could not capitalize because conditions were not suiting them.[/quote'] Seamers did well in CT but its the spinners who bowl for us in the middle overs and if they dont do well, we will struggle to choke the runs and allow partnerships to build. We dont play a fourth seamer. Hence, spinners become crucial and in conditions which have nothing for spinners, bowling attack usually struggles like what happened in NZ. Its better to gamble and go with 4 regular seamers and 1 spinner in overseas conditions than playing 2 spinners. But we should also ask the question. Do we have 4 good seamers for ODIs ? Link to comment
G_B_ Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I saw the highlights and to be fair i had a lot of admiration for Ash and Sir yesterday. It was terrible out there with the ball. They had to wipe it off after every ball. Especially one played along the ground. Link to comment
G_B_ Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 play Raina in the subcontinent. dont play him outside the sub. How hard is that to understand? Link to comment
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