zep1706 Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 It is almost certain that Meiyappan will be convicted for illegal betting but not spot/match fixing. The committee finds him to be the "Team Principal". Is that a strong enough reason to ban CSK? What do you guys think?
Crookbond Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 Also, "conflict of interest" doesn't stop at Srinivasan or Dhoni. It goes up to Lalit Modi, Sharad Pawar and Shashank Manohar. Loopholes in investigations The report also says Meiyappan's involvement in match/spot fixing has not been thoroughly investigated by ICC-ACSU or BCCI's ASU or Chennai Police. Mumbai police too did not submit forensically approved telephonic transcripts of Meiyappan. The CID Chennai branch hasn't even given the fake passport file despite providing an assurance.
Crookbond Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 If it is proved that he was lying or that he was aware of this betting' date=then he obviously is guilty of hiding facts as such instances have to be bought up to the notice of relevant authorities. However, i think the punishment for not being involved in betting but hiding the information about it will attract lesser punishment. That's the point everyone is making out here.
Crookbond Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 It is almost certain that Meiyappan will be convicted for illegal betting but not spot/match fixing. The committee finds him to be the "Team Principal". Is that a strong enough reason to ban CSK? What do you guys think? The probe committee finds that CSK can be terminated as it is in violation of Clause 11.3 of the franchisees agreement.
Straight Drive Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 Betting in India is criminal as well as non bailable offence afaik.So he's going to have a very tough time. Hope the supreme court pursues this case on priority and hands over appropriate punishment to those CSK/RR guys involved in bettting as well as those who helped the betters.
velu Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 Betting in India is criminal as well as non bailable offence afaik.So he's going to have a very tough time. Hope the supreme court pursues this case on priority and hands over appropriate punishment to those CSK/RR guys involved in bettting as well as those who helped the betters. 200Rs fine is the max
saneindian Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 I hope better sense prevails and at least Dhoni opts out of the team pending the order by Supreme Court
CG Posted February 10, 2014 Author Posted February 10, 2014 Mr. Lalit Modi, a former Chairman of the IPL Governing Council, developed this issue further and placed an analysis of the match in support of his contention that the match was fixed. The analysis indicated that by 02.05.2013, the IPL team, Chennai Super Kings, had already qualified. It was reiterated that IPL team, Chennai Super Kings, with its strong batting line up did not score a single six in the match while IPL team, Rajasthan Royals, in its innings, had scored 9 sixes and that there was no surge in the end of the innings of IPL team, Chennai Super Kings, even though wickets were in hand. It was alleged that the bowlers of IPL team, Chennai Super Kings, did not bowl to the field set, and that the field was not properly set keeping in mind the pace of the game. It was alleged further that the batsmen threw their wickets. It was urged 27 JUSTICE MUDGAL IPL PROBE COMMITTEE 2014 that IPL team, Chennai Super Kings, had been consistently coming up with huge scores and there was no explanation as to why IPL team, Chennai Super Kings came up with a below par score in the match. A dispassionate analysis of the match in question would reveal that at the start of the 12th over, IPL team, Chennai Super Kings, was at a healthy score of around 85 for the loss of 1 wicket at a run rate of around 7.7 runs per over. It has been the consistent view of the interacting independent players including Mr. Rahul Dravid and Mr. Anil Kumble that it is the rule of the thumb that the score at the end of 12thover gets doubled at the end of 20th over. It can be safely assumed therefore that the score at the end of 11th over would have been doubled in normal course of events. However, both Mr. Suresh Raina and Mr. M.S. Dhoni fell within a span of one over in the 12th over. This resulted in a slowing down in the scoring of runs and it has been explained to the committee by the expert players that this is quite possible. Immediately at the start of the 17th over, Mr. Murali Vijay was out and during the period from 13th to 17th over, the rate of scores slumped to about 7 runs per over. From the 17th to the 20th over, the run rate per over continued at 7 runs per over. It is evident that the sudden fall of wickets of Mr. M.S. Dhoni and Mr. Suresh Raina were the prime reasons for slowing down of the run rate. It was therefore felt necessary to examine the dismissals of Mr. M.S. Dhoni and Mr. Suresh Raina and the matter was specifically 28 JUSTICE MUDGAL IPL PROBE COMMITTEE 2014 discussed with Mr. Anil Kumble and Mr. Rahul Dravid. Mr. Anil Kumble based on an analysis of the video footage of the dismissals did not find anything suspicious in the dismissals and infact acknowledged the adroit role of Mr. Rahul Dravid in getting Mr. M.S. Dhoni trapped by a catch in the slips. Mr. Rahul Dravid, who was the captain of the IPL team, Rajasthan Royals in answer to specific queries also agreed that there was nothing suspicious about the fall of the two wickets and pointed out that it is always necessary to bring in a slip fielder during the opening stages of Mr. M.S. Dhoni’s innings. This strategy apparently succeeded on that particular day. As noted above, Mr. Gurunath Meiyappan, in fact, lost in course of the day’s betting, if the tapes are to be believed. He was originally betting on the IPL team, Chennai Super Kings, to win but when Mr. M.S. Dhoni and Mr. Suresh Raina fell in the 12th over, he started to cover up his bets by betting on IPL team, Rajasthan Royals. It was only in the 13th over, that Mr. Gurunath Meiyappan informed Mr. Vindoo Dara Singh that the team would definitely score between 130 to 140 runs. Was this a calculation by Mr. Gurunath Meiyappan, a mere forecast? Or, was it his prior knowledge of a fixed match? The interactors have uniformly taken up a position that without the involvement of atleast a couple of important players and more particularly the captain of the team, it would be highly improbable to fix a particular match. Md. Abdi in his FIR No. 269/2013 dated 01.11.2013, P. S. 29 JUSTICE MUDGAL IPL PROBE COMMITTEE 2014 Jyotinagar under Section 120B/420 IPC (hereinafter referred to as FIR No. 269/2013) has alleged interalia that the match was fixed with the assistance of the players of the IPL team, Chennai Super Kings, who were wilfully not playing as per their capacity and that they played suicidal shots to lose their wickets in a pitch which was good for batting. On notice to Jaipur Police, officers appeared before the Committee. From the materials produced, it was evident that no worthwhile investigation has been done as regards this match in the pending case in FIR No. 269/2013. in course of its investigation into a fake passport racket, came across materials which indicated large scale betting in IPL matches. As per Mr. G. Sampath Kumar, one Mr. Utham Jain @ Kitty had been interrogated by Q branch in his presence and the said Kitty had disclosed, in course of his interrogation on 23.05.2013, that pursuant to a plan to fix the match between IPL teams, Chennai Super Kings and Rajasthan Royals, scheduled on 12.05.2013, he was informed by one Mr. Vikram Agarwal on 27.04.2013 at a dinner party that a deal had been worked out. He was also informed the same day by Mr. Gurunath Meiyappan that one senior member in the IPL team, Chennai Super Kings, had agreed to play as per plan and the team will score 140 runs. This plan was communicated to one Sanjay in Jaipur over phone by Mr. Vikram Agarwal in presence of Kitty. The Committee was informed by the said police officer that all the officers who were in knowledge of the disclosures by Kitty were transferred out and the matter was in the meantime referred to CBCID, Chennai police. Curiously, this interrogation report of Kitty was not available in the records of CBCID when they produced the case file of CBCID C. No. 1/2013 before the Committee. Srimati Bhuvaneswari, Superintendent of Police, Q Branch CID, admitted that there was another file in the Q branch pertaining to theinvestigation of fake passport case against Md. Jaffar alias Jaffarullah in connection with Q branch Case No. 1/2013. The Committee was assured that this particular file would be produced by the Q branch at 4 PM on 25.01.2013.Surprisingly, none appeared before the Committee and no record was produced before the Committee as assured. There has been absolutely no response/communication from the Q branch thereafter. The Committee is not in a position therefore to ascertain whether the interrogation report of Kitty as stated by Mr. G. Sampath Kumar in fact exists. Under the circumstances, much as one would have liked to close the matter on the basis of the depositions of Mr. Anil Kumble and Mr. Rahul Dravid, in view of the curious conduct of the Q branch CID (Internal Security), and the CBCID Chennai Police as well as the sudden change in the
GoldenSun Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 Do they have the highlights for this match? This whole mess has me interested.
adi B Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 These are all mere conjectures. Whole league is a fix league at all levels from all teams. Just that not enough proof.. Why breaking sweat over it. absolutely :cantstop:
adi B Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 It is almost certain that Meiyappan will be convicted for illegal betting but not spot/match fixing. The committee finds him to be the "Team Principal". Is that a strong enough reason to ban CSK? What do you guys think? csk should most definitely get banned.dhoni,for sake of his dignity,should resign from csk.things (even from the legal point of view) aint looking good for msd
Marut Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 If they are going to ban teams for this, very soon IPL will run out of teams.
Detonator Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 Crook in exile Modi became Mr. Lalit Modi :haha: wat a world we live in
CG Posted February 11, 2014 Author Posted February 11, 2014 Do they have the highlights for this match? This whole mess has me interested. They should have the match on youtube.
CG Posted February 11, 2014 Author Posted February 11, 2014 Is there any proof that he knew what Meyippan was doing apart from some pity words from Modi? No ! He supported him doesn't mean he knew what he was upto. Well, in that case, the SC should look into Hussey. ASAP. U are completely missing the point.He lied to the sc appointed committee to save G.m and he toed the line of csk that he was just a cricket enthusiast and was not involved in cricketing affairs,which committee found to be false.He could get in to whole lot more trouble once g.m is convicted and its on record that he tried to help a criminal by not telling the truth.Hussyey was not called before the sc .
CG Posted February 11, 2014 Author Posted February 11, 2014 Yeah meiyappan was a mere enthusiast - he applied they had a lottery system and he fecking won it every single time - bonus points and u get to sit with dhoni and the team during auction day cool story man. So now that's done lets put the ambanis and Tendulkar under the scanner - no matter what the OP says lets just do it !!!! A smiley for red herrings on this forum and no argument will ever be made :haha: What can they do they behave like wet girls when dhoni name comes up .
Raghav_12 Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Indian Express front page " Dhoni told panel that Gurunath had nothing to do with CSK". Is there any doubt that Dhoni is trying to mislead the whole judicial investigation? It is not even non-co-operation. It is blatant misleading. How that can be condoned from an Indian captain is beyond me.
rkt.india Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 If they keep banning teams.. will IPL die :woot: :yay::yay::yay::yay::yay::yay::yay: leg mode> no, new bids will be invited.
CG Posted February 11, 2014 Author Posted February 11, 2014 Indian Express front page " Dhoni told panel that Gurunath had nothing to do with CSK". Is there any doubt that Dhoni is trying to mislead the whole judicial investigation? It is not even non-co-operation. It is blatant misleading. How that can be condoned from an Indian captain is beyond me. Forget newspapers u have the report in public.
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