Deleted_User_1 Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 In the US, obnoxious is a very strong word. I am not sure he meant it that way. Obnoxious according to Merriam Webster is: "unpleasant in a way that makes people feel offended, annoyed, or disgusted". If he called Dhoni repulsive, then I think it might be end of their relationship. :giggle:
King Tendulkar Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 We are close to getting over the hump. There have been definite improvements in batting. We just need one good bowler. Look at the Aussies.They were losing left and right and they had their share of failures. One change and they are on top now. He wont pick good fast bowlers. It will be ishant and Zak, cos your captain cool has no idea what he is doing and is corrupt, plus not accountabile
cricraja Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 In the US' date=' obnoxious is a very strong word. I am not sure he meant it that way. Obnoxious according to Merriam Webster is: "[i']unpleasant in a way that makes people feel offended, annoyed, or disgusted". If he called Dhoni repulsive, then I think it might be end of their relationship. :giggle:Once Hayden called Thugbhajan "an obnoxious weed". I hope he meant it the way it is supposed to be meant in the U.S.. If not I protest, and ask Hayden to come up with something else, that defines Thuggy. P.S.:- My respect for Haydos has gone up 1000 times after that description of Thappad Singh.
Scarves Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 We are close to getting over the hump. There have been definite improvements in batting. We just need one good bowler. Look at the Aussies.They were losing left and right and they had their share of failures. One change and they are on top now. Australia sacked a coach, dropped a few players and added in a few others. Australia makes several changes.
CG Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Australia sacked a coach' date=' dropped a few players and added in a few others. Australia makes several changes.[/quote'] Most importantly Australia admitted their was a problem and losing hurt them.Indian captain thinks we are improving .:hysterical:
Yoda-esque Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Australia sacked a coach' date=' dropped a few players and added in a few others. Australia makes several changes.[/quote'] They still retained their captain
putrevus Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 ^^ unlike indian captain Aussie captain is/was their best player.
Yoda-esque Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 ^^ unlike indian captain Aussie captain is/was their best player. Possibly,but he stayed as captain
Scarves Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 They still retained their captain Because there was no one else and the new coaching staff backed Clarke.
putrevus Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Possibly' date='but he stayed as captain[/quote'] He had too, as he was their best player and he wanted to be captain so he stayed as a captain. Dhobi has no such claims that is why he is clinging on to captaincy like a leech knowing fully well once that goes his test spot will also go with it.
Yoda-esque Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 ^Also fair to say aussies produce better cricketers (read an excellent pace bowling attack) and the skipper can only do so much. When you are leading a India our captain cannot afford a slip up given his depleted resources. We are already operating near the edges of mediocrity in test cricket and any goof-up will throw us over the edge. What slip up was done during NZ ?
putrevus Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 ^Also fair to say aussies produce better cricketers (read an excellent pace bowling attack) and the skipper can only do so much. When you are leading a India our captain cannot afford a slip up given his depleted resources. We are already operating near the edges of mediocrity in test cricket and any goof-up will throw us over the edge. That is utter nonsense, he had resources but he refused to use them how can you keep playing the same fricking bowlers knowing fully well their limitations and expect them to win a test match. Shami was given a chance only after pissant failed so bad that he could not be retained.That is Dhobi so how can he or anyone support him for lack of resources.
Scarves Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Also Clarke before losing 3-0 (Watto captain one test) in India lost to SA 1-0 at home, beat SL 3-0, Windies 2-0, India 4-0, Sri Lanka 1-0 and drew 1-1 in SA, so before losing the Ashes and losing in India he had a lot of things in his favour. Dhoni though lost in Australia 4-0, England 4-0, lost to England at home and they haven't won an overseas match since Windies in 2011. Clarke also is a very proactive captain, always doing stuff which is why he is liked and his average as captain is just under 60. Dhoni just lets the game go a lot, like when you have Australia down 220 odd for 5 or something, you don't put the field back for Siddle and Pattinson.
Yoda-esque Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Also Clarke before losing 3-0 (Watto captain one test) in India lost to SA 1-0 at home, beat SL 3-0, Windies 2-0, India 4-0, Sri Lanka 1-0 and drew 1-1 in SA, so before losing the Ashes and losing in India he had a lot of things in his favour. Dhoni though lost in Australia 4-0, England 4-0, lost to England at home and they haven't won an overseas match since Windies in 2011. Clarke also is a very proactive captain, always doing stuff which is why he is liked and his average as captain is just under 60. Dhoni just lets the game go a lot, like when you have Australia down 220 odd for 5 or something, you don't put the field back for Siddle and Pattinson. We defeated you team 4 nil,that's saying something.So that evens out your 4-0 win. Wins against WI and SL hardly mean anything.
Scarves Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Which I pointed out but before that Clarke had just lost one series which was 1-0.
Yoda-esque Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Sourav Ganguly says MS Dhoni's Test captaincy 'obnoxious' Excluding BD and Zim,overseas Ganguly wins 5 out of 21 matches MSD wins 4 out of 22 matches thats a difference of 1 match lol.. At home MSD has 21 wins out of 30 while Ganguly has only got 7 out of 17 wins So no comparison there at all.MSD blows Gangs out of the water. Test cricket batting avg for MSD excl BD 37.75 and 41.24 for ganguly . Keep in mind MSD bats lower down the order with a hopeless tail and also keeps wkts. ODIs as captain is an absolute no brainer, MSD as captain won 79 and lost 56 Ganguly as captain Won 45 and lost 60 lol As ODI batsmen MSD destroys Ganguly ,no comparison there. yet Ganguly is being hailed and MSD ridiculed for destroying Cricket? Lol Treasure this Guy ICFers!
Sachin=GOD Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 Excluding BD and Zim,overseas Ganguly wins 5 out of 21 matches MSD wins 4 out of 22 matches thats a difference of 1 match lol.. At home MSD has 21 wins out of 30 while Ganguly has only got 7 out of 17 wins So no comparison there at all.MSD blows Gangs out of the water. Test cricket batting avg for MSD excl BD 37.75 and 41.24 for ganguly . Keep in mind MSD bats lower down the order with a hopeless tail and also keeps wkts. ODIs as captain is an absolute no brainer, MSD as captain won 79 and lost 56 Ganguly as captain Won 45 and lost 60 lol As ODI batsmen MSD destroys Ganguly ,no comparison there. yet Ganguly is being hailed and MSD ridiculed for destroying Cricket? Lol Treasure this Guy ICFers! Do take a look at overseas losses under ganguly and dhoni. Kthnxbai.
maniac Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 Wins don't tell you the complete story. ..sometimes draws in foregin conditions os a big enough achievement especially in eng and australia.
Sachin=GOD Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 Wins don't tell you the complete story. ..sometimes draws in foregin conditions os a big enough achievement especially in eng and australia. Yeah.....and turns out that under msd we were whitewashed in eng and aus. Not even draws - only losses.
Yoda-esque Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 Yeah.....and turns out that under msd we were whitewashed in eng and aus. Not even draws - only losses. Away: Ganguly wins 5 out of 21 matches MSD wins 4 out of 22 matches Loss is a loss,unless you are a bangladeshi sommonojonak porajoy Home: No comparison.MSD rules. ODI: No comparison as captain or player.MSD rules. Trophies and final result: no comparison
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