Midfielder Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 There's resentment but not hatred like displayed on the Internet. Please talk to an average Pakistani in real life. I've talked to many - just spoke to one last week' date=' you will be surprised.[/quote'] They were polite to you. Deep down they all hate. Panther is a moderate.
Midfielder Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Any war against oppression is a just war' date=' 71 was not the others were aimed at freeing kashmir from Indian rule don't see anything wrong with that.[/quote'] Kashmir is part of India. Those were the terms and cnditions of partition. Indian congress government is weak otherwise India would have taken over whole pakistan to teach you basturds a lesson. Weak government in India is the problem.
Muloghonto Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Hafeez saeed as far as i know is a charity worker' date=' he calls for jihad in kashmir, so what he's to fat to fight himself so calls on others to do it, what's wrong with his freedom of speech in secular pakistan?. There are two types of jihad in Islam either offensive to free a people from oppression or defensive, Kashmiris are oppressed so Islamically hafeez saeed is embracing the weakest of jihads to speak out against any wrong when one see's it.[/quote'] Kashmiris r less opressed than every single paki thats not related to the army or isi or is a mega millionaire Sent from my GT-S5830D using Tapatalk 2
Muloghonto Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Un also admitted that Bin laden bombed the twin towers, un is just a slave of america. Because I refuse to believe what The media tells me I am an apologist for mumbai attacks, yh great logic. So who do u believe n where do u get ur info on ? Your own govt. Admitted kasab is a paki. Game, set n match, buddy. Sent from my GT-S5830D using Tapatalk 2
Muloghonto Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Zia ul haq shaheed, if Pak did not get nukes, today India would not be so quiet and stuck to covert operations against pak through proxies. They killed zia because he wanted to implement shariah. Wanting to implement a jaahil form of government that gives unequal rights to citizens on the basis of different unproven beleifs is a good reason to get killed by readonable n sane people. Sent from my GT-S5830D using Tapatalk 2
Mariyam Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Panther jee Indian ocean is a big place. Your navy showed the way to those murderes. You have blood on you hands. Indian Ocean? Shouldn't that be the Arabian Sea?
Muloghonto Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Yh same countries who consider hamas and hezbollah as terrorist but openly back syrian and libyan terrorist groups. Yeah, its called using the nutters to your advantage against repressive forms of government or when huge national interests collide. Vae victus.
Detonator Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Indian Ocean? Shouldn't that be the Arabian Sea? Arabian sea? Shouldn't that be the back bay near machhimar?
Muloghonto Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Arabian sea? Shouldn't that be the back bay near machhimar? :haha: Good one!
panther Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Kashmir is part of India. Those were the terms and cnditions of partition. Indian congress government is weak otherwise India would have taken over whole pakistan to teach you basturds a lesson. Weak government in India is the problem. now this 'strong' bjp government will try to put Pakistan into bits and pieces, divide among ethnic lines we know it's coming.
Crookbond Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 They were polite to you. Deep down they all hate. Panther is a moderate. Nope they don't.
CSK Fan Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 I am misguided because i don't accept everything like a sheep' date=' when Mumbai was attacked i knew that Pakistan would be blamed, I am really going to accept a theory that 12 guys took a fishing boat and brought a major world city to it's knees and that the indian navy was sleeping whilst these guys were crossing the Arabian sea, today if a piegon crosses the India pak border it is not spared and these guys heavily armed with such ease are able to enter Mumbai, not to forget i have never met a Punjabi in my life that speaks like kassab, as they say the wicked try to extinguish the truth, but truth always finds a way to break out and expose falsehood.[/quote'] the points you are deliberately ignoring 1) Your own government agreed to the Indian version 2) ISI and your army has also not denied this version 3) the fishing boar belonged to India. the Indian navy did indeed intercept the boat and the captain, who was a hostage, spoke to the navy and showed all the papers. The captain was later killed. do you know how many thousands of such fishing boats ply everyday in those waters? Do you think each and every boat is completely searched? 4) David Headley in the US exposed how Hafeez Saeed and ISI had trained Kasab and others in different accents and languages deliberately. Obviously they thought it was enough to fool some really stupid people who cannot see beyond their nose. What do you think happens in the months/years of training such high profile terrorists? Of course they are trained to be different to later deny that they were one of yours As they say, those who conduct such terrorist acts always look for the sympathies of fools and conspiracy minded individuals who are willing to close their eyes and swallow these lies i have replied to each hole you tried to poke in the official theory. Now answer these point about the hole in your theory if you are honest 1) How can a democracy like India carry such an operation? The party in power is a rag-tag bunch of politicians. they neither command the power, nor the source to carry such a conspiracy. 2) the Indian army has no where near power as the Pakistan army to either conduct such a mission or have the will to do so 3) India has never openly supported Israel, Why would it kill it's own citizens for anything Israel says 4) What benefit, if any will India get from this. What benefits will the politicians get from this when they are not even assured of another term because of the way our country is ruled You are quick to poke theories in the official version, lets see if you have the guts to defend your theory which is something a 5 year old will come up with
EnterTheVoid Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Why are you lot wasting your time trying to talk some sense into that retard?
Muloghonto Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 now this 'strong' bjp government will try to put Pakistan into bits and pieces' date=' divide among ethnic lines we know it's coming.[/quote'] BJP can't do whats already the reality of Pakistan and has been for decades: it is an ethnic domination of the Punjabis with Pakhtoon elite support over all other ethnic groups in Pakistan. As for demise of Pakistan: we got bigger fishes to fry for now. Like increasing the power gap between us and you. Catching up to China or being relevant to them. So dividing your country is unlikely for now. But it is coming. And it will be sweet. For all of us- including your countrymen. They would prosper much better once they are educated about the foolishness of their Islamic republic concept. Islam has no place in the government. Stick to your mosques and homes and when Pakistan achieves that, it will be best for most ordinary Pakis.
BlackMamba Posted April 18, 2014 Author Posted April 18, 2014 There's resentment but not hatred like displayed on the Internet. Please talk to an average Pakistani in real life. I've talked to many - just spoke to one last week' date=' you will be surprised.[/quote'] I am fed up of this == "Most Pakistanis are not like this." "An Average Pakistani is very normal." What people forget is to add numbers. Let us just say for example -- 90% of Pakistanis are average and good and realistic and sane. Where does that leave us? 10% are deluded and brain washed and misguided like our friend Panther out here. That my friend is a HUGE number. 10% of a country -- is close to 20 Million People. Show me another country in the world where they have 20 Million mis-guided youths. Let us walk thru some who we think are mis-guided and dangerous 1) Saudi Arabia -- may be percentage wise, they have higher figures, but definitely not in numbers. Also Saudi does a decently good job of keeping their idiots within their borders. 2) Egypt may be? Again numbers will not match. And Egypt is changing rapidly to becoming more progressive. 3) Yemen -- again very small population. And in Pakistan even if you say 1% of 200 Million of them are quite frankly radical, which means they believe in violence and extremism to achieve their goals. Not to mention a lot of these radical policies and extremist policies adopted by these was state funded and nurtured, essentially the state is a part and parcel of this whole program that they invented back in 80s. Only thing they never realized how this monster they were feeding would come back to bite their own rear end. They are so deep in the dangerous cesspool, I am not even sure how they can even get out of it. It is at least 2 decades away, if not more.
Midfielder Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Indian Ocean? Shouldn't that be the Arabian Sea? I was putting that down but just for my info is Indian ocean not the greater body of water there?
Midfielder Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 I am fed up of this == "Most Pakistanis are not like this." "An Average Pakistani is very normal." What people forget is to add numbers. Let us just say for example -- 90% of Pakistanis are average and good and realistic and sane. Where does that leave us? 10% are deluded and brain washed and misguided like our friend Panther out here. That my friend is a HUGE number. 10% of a country -- is close to 20 Million People. Show me another country in the world where they have 20 Million mis-guided youths. Let us walk thru some who we think are mis-guided and dangerous 1) Saudi Arabia -- may be percentage wise, they have higher figures, but definitely not in numbers. Also Saudi does a decently good job of keeping their idiots within their borders. 2) Egypt may be? Again numbers will not match. And Egypt is changing rapidly to becoming more progressive. 3) Yemen -- again very small population. And in Pakistan even if you say 1% of 200 Million of them are quite frankly radical, which means they believe in violence and extremism to achieve their goals. Not to mention a lot of these radical policies and extremist policies adopted by these was state funded and nurtured, essentially the state is a part and parcel of this whole program that they invented back in 80s. Only thing they never realized how this monster they were feeding would come back to bite their own rear end. They are so deep in the dangerous cesspool, I am not even sure how they can even get out of it. It is at least 2 decades away, if not more. Pakistan is a cesspool of hatred. It is a snakes nest that needs to be avoided.
Crookbond Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 I am fed up of this == "Most Pakistanis are not like this." "An Average Pakistani is very normal." What people forget is to add numbers. Let us just say for example -- 90% of Pakistanis are average and good and realistic and sane. Where does that leave us? 10% are deluded and brain washed and misguided like our friend Panther out here. That my friend is a HUGE number. 10% of a country -- is close to 20 Million People. Show me another country in the world where they have 20 Million mis-guided youths. It's insane to get fed up of things if it is counter intuitive to your initial hypothesis/bias. Your 10% argument is agreeable but saying that "Most of Pakistan is like THIS" is also an incorrect argument. Not even considering the facts that Panther is just trolling on the subject and 10% = 20M people of all may not be youths.
Midfielder Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 It's insane to get fed up of things if it is counter intuitive to your initial hypothesis/bias. Your 10% argument is agreeable but saying that "Most of Pakistan is like THIS" is also an incorrect argument. Not even considering the facts that Panther is just trolling on the subject and 10% = 20M people of all may not be youths. Since late 70s they have deep hatred. There attacks are more violent and hate is more. I dont know what your sourcesare but Pakistan is root cause of all the bad terror stuff going on in the world. They should be taken seriously.
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