gattaca Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 RIP How many more such incidents should occur before we put an end to this nuisance? how do you we put an end to such nuisance ?. The amount of population we have it very hard to monitor bad elements and also the incompetence of the intelligence agencies is worst combination.
vvvslaxman Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 It is hard to have airport type security in train stations.
ravishingravi Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/homecoming-turns-tragic-for-swathi/article5966157.ece?homepage=true the victim This commie newspaper had to release the picture. I m in chennai today. It is distressful for the people here.
gs Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 how do you we put an end to such nuisance ?. The amount of population we have it very hard to monitor bad elements and also the incompetence of the intelligence agencies is worst combination. Not sure, and I do understand your points. The question was a rhetorical one borne out of frustration.
BlackMamba Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 It is hard to have airport type security in train stations. Not it is not, it is f**king not !! You can do a lot. You do not need airport type security to keep these *****holes away. Just some commonsense and doing things differently will keep these miscreants away ! I had always wondered why there were not many more blasts in trains given the lax security we have there
vvvslaxman Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 Not it is not, it is f**king not !! You can do a lot. You do not need airport type security to keep these *****holes away. Just some commonsense and doing things differently will keep these miscreants away ! I had always wondered why there were not many more blasts in trains given the lax security we have there Explain how. In airport not even a razor is allowed in carry on luggage. They scan every single item. In train station, In a country like India it is very hard to monitor these things with so many people taking train each day. Even those who don't travel can go there with platform tickets. May be we can improve these things in big metropolitan cities. It is possible. Other small cities/ Not possible. Apparently they did not plant the bomb in chennai. It was planted elsewhere. Possibly in a small city.
gattaca Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 Chennai bomb blasts: Tamil Nadu govt refuses Centre's help NEW DELHI: The Tamil Nadu government has refused to take any help offered by the Centre in the probe into the two explosions in a train at Chennai Central railway station and it appears that the state is not treating it as a terror attack "as of now". The Centre had to abort its plans to send in forensic experts and investigators from NSG and NIA to Chennai in the wake of the blasts as the state government, whose chief minister J Jayalalithaa is strongly opposed to any interference from central agencies on the subject of law and order, refused to take any help from the Centre, saying its police was well equipped to handle the blasts' probe. In a terse reply to the Centre, the Tamil Nadu government merely gave few details of the incident that took place inside Bangalore-Guwahati Express train at the busy Chennai Central Railway station on Thursday. The reply, which was sent in response to a request from the home ministry for a complete report on the incident, said the explosions took place at 07:05am in train number 12509 at platform number nine. The two blasts took place in coach number S-4 and S-5 in which one woman died and 14 others were injured who were being treated at Rajiv Gandhi General Government Hospital. The reply also said that a case had been registered by Tamil Nadu Police and the matter was handed over to CB-CID of the state. The case has been registered for murder, causing grievous injury, attempt to murder, theft after causing murder or injury, damage to railway property of IPC and three sections of Explosives Substance Act. Union home ministry sources said the Tamil Nadu did not appear to be treating the explosion as a terror attack and were also silent about an offer for joint probe of state police and a team of the National Investigation Agency (NIA). "What to do when the state government is not treating it as a terror case as of now," a senior home ministry official said. The home ministry officials still decided to send a team of forensic experts on Friday to ascertain the nature of the blasts as well as the triggering mechanism used to detonate the explosives. A 24-year old woman techie was killed and 14 others injured when two bomb blasts rocked the Bangalore-Guwahati Express at the busy Central Railway station today, an act which was condemned by President Pranab Mukherjee, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh as well as Jayalalithaa. The two low-intensity bombs that went off in quick succession in S4 and S5 coaches about ten minutes after the train chugged into the platform in the morning, triggered of chaotic scenes with panic stricken passengers running for safety. The home ministry had earlier directed the National Investigation Agency, National Security Guard and forensic experts to get ready to go to Chennai. While the NIA team was supposed to go from Hyderabad, the NSG and forensic experts were being readied in New Delhi. On record, home minister Sushilkumar Shinde said he has directed his officials to provide all assistance to the state government. Union home secretary Anil Goswami also said that the central government was in regular touch with the Tamil Nadu government and was ready to provide it all possible help. NSG's bomb data centre is mandated by to collect forensic evidence of all explosions in the country. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Chennai-bomb-blasts-Tamil-Nadu-govt-refuses-Centres-help/articleshow/34488176.cms
BlackMamba Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 Explain how. In airport not even a razor is allowed in carry on luggage. They scan every single item. In train station' date=' In a country like India it is very hard to monitor these things with so many people taking train each day. Even those who don't travel can go there with platform tickets. May be we can improve these things in big metropolitan cities. It is possible. Other small cities/ Not possible. Apparently they did not plant the bomb in chennai. It was planted elsewhere. Possibly in a small city.[/quote'] 1) Secure all Railway Stations where people can enter thru one or more main entrances which are monitored. Currently people can enter a railway platform any which way, they want to, which is hilarious in my opinion. 2) Have random security checks, by letting the dogs loose. Have this done at least 2 times a week. Let the dogs run around the station smelling for any explosive devices. 3) Have random luggage checks occasionally. I mean make these bags go through detectors and other devices if need be. Just the fact that you are doing the above will keep the miscreants away. Because the randomness of checks will keep them guessing.
vvvslaxman Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 1) Secure all Railway Stations where people can enter thru one or more main entrances which are monitored. Currently people can enter a railway platform any which way, they want to, which is hilarious in my opinion. 2) Have random security checks, by letting the dogs loose. Have this done at least 2 times a week. Let the dogs run around the station smelling for any explosive devices. 3) Have random luggage checks occasionally. I mean make these bags go through detectors and other devices if need be. Just the fact that you are doing the above will keep the miscreants away. Because the randomness of checks will keep them guessing. How would you do these things in each and every single station. We have over 8500 railway stations in India.
BlackMamba Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 Chennai bomb blasts: Tamil Nadu govt refuses Centre's help http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Chennai-bomb-blasts-Tamil-Nadu-govt-refuses-Centres-help/articleshow/34488176.cms This is the problem. This option should not be even given to the State Govt. Once the center says you get the f**k out of the way -- they do it.
vvvslaxman Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 This is the problem. This option should not be even given to the State Govt. Once the center says you get the f**k out of the way -- they do it. she is using it to play politics.
dial_100 Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 1) Secure all Railway Stations where people can enter thru one or more main entrances which are monitored. Currently people can enter a railway platform any which way, they want to, which is hilarious in my opinion. 2) Have random security checks, by letting the dogs loose. Have this done at least 2 times a week. Let the dogs run around the station smelling for any explosive devices. 3) Have random luggage checks occasionally. I mean make these bags go through detectors and other devices if need be. Just the fact that you are doing the above will keep the miscreants away. Because the randomness of checks will keep them guessing. ^ some awesome suggestions. We need to grow our economy to afford this level of security spending. But one will support the other. Strong economy will enable more spending on security and more secured environment will bring more to the economy. I totally agree that some measures must be taken.
vvvslaxman Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 Still the motive is unclear? Was it just to create a panic or targeted anyone else?
BlackMamba Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 How would you do these things in each and every single station. We have over 8500 railway stations in India. Nothing is easy. But it is not impossible either. To begin with fence all platforms -- in such a way that only way in and out -- is on the tracks or thru the entrances. Of course anybody walking in via the tracks should be questioned and dissuaded from doing it. And do this for the top 400 Railway Stations to begin with, which probably cater 80% of passengers. In the smaller stations have the Station Manger or In Charge monitor the passengers. And as far as the Dog Checks are concerned, I would even go a step further. Stop the train dead in the middle of nowhere and have the dogs run through the compartments. I am pretty sure 2 dogs can sweep the whole train in less than 15 minutes. -- BTW This process used to be followed for random Ticket Checks -- long long ago, where the train would stop dead in the middle of no where and 2 policemen with guns would board per compartment and check for tickets. If anybody did not have a ticket, would either be fined or thrown out at the next station. It is not easy, nothing is easy, but start introducing fool proof methods. Also Security Cameras can make a huge difference. As I said introducing randomness in itself will keep these guys away, or they will have to plan an very high skilled carefully orchestrated operation which are very rare and far and few in between in India.
Zelig Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 In Tambaram Railway station, we have both metal detector as well as normal entrance. People like me sneak thru the normal entry. Metal detector entry is made mandatory only on festive days or Dec. 6th.
vvvslaxman Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 Where did they plant it.. That is the first thing they have to find out. Miss Jayalalitha declared it as local law and order :facepalm:
hhunaeh Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 Woman killed in twin blasts at Chennai Central station Train No 12509 that left Bangalore Junction at 10.30 pm on Wednesday was scheduled to arrive at Chennai Junction at 5.40 a.m. However, the train reached Central station around 7.10 a.m. Within few minutes, bombs exploded one after the other in reserved second sleeper coaches, S 4 and S 5. Explosives were kept under the seat number 28 in Coach S 4 and under seat number 69 in coach S 5. If the train had been on time, it would have entered Andhra Pradesh, where the BJP's prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi is scheduled to address a rally near Nellore on Thursday evening. Police and railway officials on emerging out of both the coaches in which the blast took place said that it was a low intensity explosion caused by suspected objects kept beneath the seats. The deceased was identified as 22-year old Swati, a post-graduate in M.Tech from Hyderabad working in Bangalore who was on her way to meet her parents at Vijayawada. IED, timer devices used Timer attached to device to explode at certain time. Two Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs), packed in metal pipes and fitted with timer devices, were used Forensic and Bomb Detection and Disposal Squad (BBDS) experts involved in the examination of the scene of crime ruled out the usage of RDX and TNT. Examination of the coaches indicated that the explosions had just damaged the seat and the glass panes in the window, clearly indicating mild intensity explosions. Also, the fact that the side walls of both the coaches were intact and the absence of any serious injuries to passengers led the investigators to believe that the motive was just to trigger panic rather than a major explosion that would have claimed more lives or left many injured.
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