****Maharashtra Assembly Elections 2014 Thread***

[someone]

Sudheendra Kulkarni ‏@SudheenKulkarni "Bhag Hindu #Owaisi Aya" #MIM is doing great disservice to Muslims byraising such incendiary slogans after its victory in #Maharashtra polls

I am not surprised by such slogans, also not surprised that MSM is silence about it. Again, expect more aggression actions/behavior as Indian secularism allows it openly & unquestioned. Worrying times....

[Tridibans_16]

I am not surprised by such slogans' date=' also not surprised that MSM is silence about it. Again, expect more aggression actions/behavior as Indian secularism allows it openly & unquestioned. Worrying times....[/quote'] These MIM goons know no other language than incendiary and hate filled speeches. After wining Byculla, they have gone overboard and infact many moderate muslims are fearing this polarisation, because, believe it or not, many many young Muslims (even educated) in Mumbai are supporting MIM's ideology. What else can you expect of a party whose name itself says it is for 'kattar' muslims :om: Testing times ahead.

[Yoda-esque]

These MIM goons know no other language than incendiary and hate filled speeches. After wining Byculla, they have gone overboard and infact many moderate muslims are fearing this polarisation, because, believe it or not, many many young Muslims (even educated) in Mumbai are supporting MIM's ideology. What else can you expect of a party whose name itself says it is for 'kattar' muslims :om: Testing times ahead.

Just the beginning, the whole of India is there to be exploited...WB ,Kerala,UP,Assam,TN I mean if they won in MH of all places,imagine what they can do elsewhere. There is a chance for people to believe in development and progress but guess what? They won't and that's the reason they are in the state that they are..

[randomGuy]

Its not very difficult to deal I guess. For ex. Secret service can create a gang belonging to the same community as the owasis and the gang wants to take the owasi brothers out. owasis only are Running Mim

[Malcolm Merlyn]

I am not surprised by such slogans' date=' also not surprised that MSM is silence about it. Again, expect more aggression actions/behavior as Indian secularism allows it openly & unquestioned. Worrying times....[/quote'] He should be prosecuted.I hope BJP does that.His is a fringe party.Lets not forget that he won seats due to division of votes nothing else.

[Mariyam]

These MIM goons know no other language than incendiary and hate filled speeches. After wining Byculla, they have gone overboard and infact many moderate muslims are fearing this polarisation, because, believe it or not, many many young Muslims (even educated) in Mumbai are supporting MIM's ideology. What else can you expect of a party whose name itself says it is for 'kattar' muslims :om: Testing times ahead.

Parochial the MIM is. And the Congress and the NCP should get their act together to nip this menace in the bud. But the name MIM doesnt have any 'kattar' connotations whatsover. It simply means council of Muslims. One shouldn't forget, that MIM's Byculla victory was because of the BJP and Sena split. Plus Arun Gawli draws his own votes there. Plus theNCP backed by Shahid Balwa is also strong there. Byculla is a lot more vibrant tolerant that you think. Lal Baug cha Raja passes through many a Muslim bastis in Byculla, where Muslims often pray and partake in the celebrations. Thats my Bombay. And I hope it doesn't change.

[Mariyam]

Just the beginning, the whole of India is there to be exploited...WB ,Kerala,UP,Assam,TN I mean if they won in MH of all places,imagine what they can do elsewhere. There is a chance for people to believe in development and progress but guess what? They won't and that's the reason they are in the state that they are..

Do you see paralells with the BJP of 25 yrs ago?

[Yoda-esque]

Do you see paralells with the BJP of 25 yrs ago?

Absolutely. I also believe that we could be headed for an Israel-Palestine in 25 years from now.

[Tridibans_16]

Parochial the MIM is. And the Congress and the NCP should get their act together to nip this menace in the bud. But the name MIM doesnt have any 'kattar' connotations whatsover. It simply means council of Muslims. One shouldn't forget, that MIM's Byculla victory was because of the BJP and Sena split. Plus Arun Gawli draws his own votes there. Plus theNCP backed by Shahid Balwa is also strong there. Byculla is a lot more vibrant tolerant that you think. Lal Baug cha Raja passes through many a Muslim bastis in Byculla, where Muslims often pray and partake in the celebrations. Thats my Bombay. And I hope it doesn't change.

Well I personally have many friends in Byculla and I have to agree with you, They are even more tolerant than some of my Hindu friends. :two_thumbs_up: Even Muslims in Bandra are quite educated and vibrant. Problem is the slums and poor ones who are exploited by the corrupt parties and now MIM.

[Sachin=GOD]

It seems Gadkari now wants to be CM and its upto the party to offer it to him.

[Texan]

How Uddhav Thackeray lost the Maharashtra plot If Shiv Sena chief Uddhav Thackeray wants to remain relevant in Maharashtra – and not meet the same fate as cousin Raj Thackeray – he will have to accept the role of a junior partner in the new BJP-led Maharashtra government. Having sat in the opposition for 15 years, another five years in opposition could shrink the Sena into a small regional party. But will the BJP allow the Sena a face-saving formula to join the Maharashtra government? Is it in its long-term interest to do so? Most crucially, in strategic terms, does it need to? Along with the support of independents and small parties like the Bhaujan Vikas Aaghadi (BVA), the BJP’s strength in the 288-seat Vidhan Sabha will be around 137 MLAs. To win a confidence motion on the floor of the assembly, the BJP needs 145 MLAs. It is therefore eight seats short of a clear majority. The NCP has announced it will support the BJP government from outside. This means its 41 MLAs will either vote in favour of the confidence motion or abstain. The BJP would prefer the latter rather than face the embarrassment of association with the NCP that a pro-confidence vote would imply. If the NCP abstains, the strength of the assembly will stand reduced to 247 seats. The 137 MLAs of the BJP (and independents) will thus win the vote of confidence even if both the Congress and Shiv Sena (with a combined strength of 105 MLAs) vote against the BJP government. Here lies the trap for the Sena. If it votes against the BJP in the confidence motion, two consequences will follow: One, it will lose support amongst voters which will severely damage its electoral prospects in the next BMC election – and more seriously in future assembly elections. Two, its anti-BJP government vote will anyway fail with only 105 MLAs (including the discredited Congress) voting against the no-confidence motion. Besides, voting on the same side as the Congress will give it an odour it may find difficult to shake off. Success has many parents. Failure is an orphan. As a relative failure following the elections, the Shiv Sena now confronts the possibility of terminal political decline unless it makes up with the BJP. Under these circumstances, what are Prime Minister Narendra Modi and party president Amit Shah likely to do? They will simply go ahead and appoint a chief minister of Maharashtra after Diwali, form a BJP government and seek an early vote of confidence. The Sena is in a mousetrap of its own making. If it stays outside government, it will lose political relevance. If it votes against the BJP government in the assembly, the move will fail – as we have seen in our electoral math – and also be ostracised by voters in future polls. Uddhav Thackeray has managed to render the Shiv Sena dispensable in Maharashtra. It is this realisation that might make him offer the Sena’s support to the new Maharashtra government and seek a role in it – unconditionally.

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/headon/how-uddhav-thackeray-lost-the-maharashtra-plot/?intenttarget=no&utm_source=TOI_AShow_OBWidget&utm_medium=Int_Ref&utm_campaign=TOI_AShow

[G_B_]

Any election where the party doesn't go with a CM candidate, obviously post-verdict, there will be some big discussions. There are some rumors going and not of them is true. Different leaders will try to pitch themselves for CM post. Nothing to worry, happens many times before as well. And your bold part is laughable. If Sena got the CM chair, BJP in MH would have no scope to grow. Even without any power, Sena was very arrogant and made many indecent comments about BJP. Their ego would have sky rocketed had they got CM. Thankfully, BJP realized such implications and have completely changed the equation in MH.

So? you feed the ego and consolidate on the ground. What would have happen is with one CM post and less ministerial berths you would have many in the sena missing out and jumping ship. Thereby weakening them. Look what happened to PC. Even his own party did not respect him despite support from high command. Devendra Fadanvis has no base. That has become evident. He is effectively the Manmohan singh of maharashtra. The BJP should have bitten the bullet and gone with the Gadkari faction. A lame duck Fadanvis remains...... forget the sena, his biggest foes are within maharashtra bjp. A CM with no real power. You have the example of neighboring Karnataka where the BJP imploded with factions. Lets hope Maharashtra does not follow the same pattern.

[G_B_]

Nitin Gadkari declined so BJP chose Devendra Fadnavis as Maharashtra CM: Sudhir Mungantiwar From the article;

While Khadse's body language showed that he was resigned to the fate that Fadnavis would be the chief minister, he continued to assert that he too was an aspirant. To ensure that the party received the message, he skipped the informal meeting of legislators called at the state BJP headquarters. Instead he gave sound bytes to TV channels from his bungalow barely a few metres away from the state party headquarters. "I am also in the race for the chief minister's post," Khadse kept on repeating to media channels when asked as to whether he was 'unhappy.'

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/nitin-gadkari-declined-so-bjp-chose-devendra-fadnavis-as-maharashtra-cm-sudhir-mungantiwar/articleshow/44964803.cms Lol they still cant stop talking trash about Fadnavis.

[FischerTal]

Many Marathi bjp supporters are not too confident of appointing Brahmin as cm

[Sachin=GOD]

So? you feed the ego and consolidate on the ground. What would have happen is with one CM post and less ministerial berths you would have many in the sena missing out and jumping ship. Thereby weakening them. Look what happened to PC. Even his own party did not respect him despite support from high command. Devendra Fadanvis has no base. That has become evident. He is effectively the Manmohan singh of maharashtra. The BJP should have bitten the bullet and gone with the Gadkari faction. A lame duck Fadanvis remains...... forget the sena, his biggest foes are within maharashtra bjp. A CM with no real power. You have the example of neighboring Karnataka where the BJP imploded with factions. Lets hope Maharashtra does not follow the same pattern.

Fadnavis has support of Amit Shah and Modi - thats enough currently to make him more powerful than all other leaders in Maharashtra.

[G_B_]

Perhaps your thinking is wrong?

its not just about him being brahmin. even gadkari is a brahmin. the issue is about lack of expirience. u have to feel sorry for khadse. did the time for maha bjp and delivered north maha in 2014 elections. the cm chair should have been his. problem is bjp needed to placate the viderbha faction after backing away from giving them statehood. in which case mungantiwar and gadkari should have been chosen.

[G_B_]

Fadnavis has support of Amit Shah and Modi - thats enough currently to make him more powerful than all other leaders in Maharashtra.

for now. but he has to govern for 5 years. even pc had the support from the gandhis. did not stop rane thakre and chavan from acting out and weakening the party.

[Malcolm Merlyn]

for now. but he has to govern for 5 years. even pc had the support from the gandhis. did not stop rane thakre and chavan from acting out and weakening the party.

BJP is winning on the back of Modi.BJP is Modi.Rest everyone will have to toe the line.Khadse Gadkari RSS no one can take on Modi and Shah.

[G_B_]

BJP is winning on the back of Modi.BJP is Modi.Rest everyone will have to toe the line.Khadse Gadkari RSS no one can take on Modi and Shah.

For now. thats the thing about politics. You govern via fear and trample over local sentiment, its only a matter of time decent happens when you become weaker. Govern via consensus and you will govern longer. The point is you dont want to make everybody your enemy. We are not a presidential system. Its not as if Fadnavis is appointed and thats the end of that. A CM can be replaced at any time. For the record its only fair people toe the line to Shah and Modi. They have won in Maha due to Modi. However the choice of Fadnavis is just bad politics. You have the example of the congress who did the same thing in the state.

[Malcolm Merlyn]

For now.

Without them the BJP is toast.

thats the thing about politics. You govern via fear and trample over local sentiment, its only a matter of time decent happens when you become weaker. Govern via consensus and you will govern longer.

The greatest political leaders have been the one who goverened with the propper command structure.Take out Modi and Khadse/Gadkari anyone else wont win 50 seats for BJP.Its Modi which is driving the BJP and so he will call the shots.

The point is you dont want to make everybody your enemy. We are not a presidential system. Its not as if Fadnavis is appointed and thats the end of that. A CM can be replaced at any time.

The election is happening and people are voting for one personality,MODI.Take him out and BJP will be less than half of what they are.And people must follow the party line and unlike Sonia and Rahul who are not big vote drawers but will issue diktats,Modi and Shah are the main vote drawers of BJP and hence they command respect and their writ runs. For the record its only fair people toe the line to Shah and Modi. They have won in Maha due to Modi. However the choice of Fadnavis is just bad politics. You have the example of the congress who did the same thing in the state.