randomGuy Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 So is it wrong in your view even if the intent is to resolve Kashmir permanently. My point is abt the fake outrage and not letting things function when its in the opposition. if people look through BJP leaders' 'outrage' which is mostly drama actually, they will make better choices in whoever they choose (bjp, congress, aap or anyone else) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 So is it wrong in your view even if the intent is to resolve Kashmir permanently. Bhai, no need to take khamkha boond pangeys... First sort out own house in order and then think of all other things later... First thing first, Govt. needs to get hold of that Toad-face VaiDICK and question him by intelligence agencies... Merely saying that 'he went on his own etc.' is not enough... He needs to face investigation... If nothing happens then I hope Fringe Right Wing elements should get hold of him and thrash him ala Prashant Bhushan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalpat Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 My point is abt the fake outrage and not letting things function when its in the opposition. if people look through BJP leaders' 'outrage' which is mostly drama actually' date=' they will make better choices in whoever they choose (bjp, congress, aap or anyone else)[/quote'] As far as I know they stopped functioning of Parliament on: 1. 2G Case: Seeking Raja's resignation which they eventually got 2. Coal Scam: After disclosure of CBI that Law Minister made ammendment in the report 3. CWG Scam: Asking for Kalmadi's resignation, which they got eventually 4. Augusta Westland Scam: 5. Rail Gate: They asked Rail ministers resignation, which they got eventually. I do not think even Kejriwal would have let Parliament fnction on these issues, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 As far as I know they stopped functioning of Parliament on: 1. 2G Case: Seeking Raja's resignation which they eventually got 2. Coal Scam: After disclosure of CBI that Law Minister made ammendment in the report 3. CWG Scam: Asking for Kalmadi's resignation, which they got eventually 4. Augusta Westland Scam: 5. Rail Gate: They asked Rail ministers resignation, which they got eventually. I do not think even Kejriwal would have let Parliament fnction on these issues, isn't it? Dont be selective...they used to shout alot abt bringing back black money, approach towards pak approach towards china, judicial reforms (now they will appoint judges of their choice), CBI independence ( they will use it to their advantage now). and abt many more such issues. edit- add the shouting abt gas and oil price rise (which it will have to do now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalpat Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Dont be selective...they used to shout alot abt bringing back black money, approach towards pak approach towards china, judicial reforms (now they will appoint judges of their choice), CBI independence ( they will use it to their advantage now). and abt many more such issues. edit- add the shouting abt gas and oil price rise (which it will have to do now) You said about not letting thing function. Their is a difference between shouting and not letting things or Parliament function. Opposition asked question about issues which you have highlighted, the highest authority of the then government Mr. Singh or Mrs Gandhi were not able to give convincing answers. You ask the question now, Mr Modi or Jaitley will be able to answer you. As simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 You said about not letting thing function. Their is a difference between shouting and not letting things or Parliament function. Opposition asked question about issues which you have highlighted' date=' the highest authority of the then government Mr. Singh or Mrs Gandhi were not able to give convincing answers. You ask the question now, Mr Modi or Jaitley will be able to answer you. As simple as that.[/quote'] Accept it or not but that confrontational approach, shouting and crying abt everything does give rise to negative sentiment in people (investors included - both domestic and foreign) ANd neither does Modi answer all the questions nor do him and Jaitley have convincing answers to all questions. Far from it actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalpat Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Accept it or not but that confrontational approach, shouting and crying abt everything does give rise to negative sentiment in people (investors included - both domestic and foreign) :hysterical: :hysterical::hysterical: . Sorry for that but these words ,"confrontational approach, shouting and crying abt everything " coming from an AAP supporter do not make any sense sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Sorry for that but these words ' date='"confrontational approach, shouting and crying abt everything " coming from an AAP supporter do not make any sense sir.[/quote'] There is a fundamental difference between BJP and AAP when it comes to the issues that I mentioned. For ex. BJP will cry abt CBI independence but at the same time, use it to its advantage when it comes to power. (There is fundamental difference also in levels of honesty, in ambition of selfless public service between an average AAP and BJP volunteer/leader) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 but still hits the bottomline of reliance.. aint it? NO. RIL doesn't have to pay a penny out of their pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 No Proposal to Repeal Article 370: Govt http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/No-Proposal-to-Repeal-Article-370-Govt/849874 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 (There is fundamental difference also in levels of honesty, in ambition of selfless public service between an average AAP and BJP volunteer/leader) Erm, how did you determine that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Dr. Ashok Khemka's name cleared for Central posting. Good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Erm' date=' how did you determine that?[/quote'] in my locality i know both rss guys who are the main bjp workers. one is a harami property dealer, the other is a mota businessman. Being BJP workers, they use approaches in govt. for their advantage. and since they get their photos printed on banners of bjp in the area and from what i hear, they have ambitions to someday get election ticket . guess they will obviously cash it if they win a seat in future ... AAP>BJP, there is simply no comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 in my locality i know both rss guys who are the main bjp workers. one is a harami property dealer, the other is a mota businessman. Being BJP workers, they use approaches in govt. for their advantage. and since they get their photos printed on banners of bjp in the area and from what i hear, they have ambitions to someday get election ticket . guess they will obviously cash it if they win a seat in future ... AAP>BJP, there is simply no comparison. So a sample size of your locality helped you make that determination.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalpat Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 in my locality i know both rss guys who are the main bjp workers. one is a harami property dealer, the other is a mota businessman. Being BJP workers, they use approaches in govt. for their advantage. and since they get their photos printed on banners of bjp in the area and from what i hear, they have ambitions to someday get election ticket . guess they will obviously cash it if they win a seat in future ... AAP>BJP, there is simply no comparison. You made this opinion the basis of two RSS lukhas living in your locality. :hysterical::hysterical: Kid, you need to learn many things as far as politics in concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Five big U-turns the Modi government has already made From defending a rape-accused minister to ensuring the 1962 war report remains classified, the BJP seems to share the Congress' propensity for the flip-flop. The Bharatiya Janata Party and Narendra Modi rode to power with a historic mandate, and a Parliamentary majority that gave them plenty of leeway, so their voters are right to expect them to deliver on their promises. Unfortunately, the government’s projected acche din instead feature one staple of the United Progressive Alliance government that preceded it: the U-turn. There is the failure to roll back Foreign Direct Investment in multi-brand retail; retaining Robert Vadra’s security check exemptions; allocating Rs 200 crore of central funds on a statue after criticising former Uttar Pradesh chief minister Mayawati for doing the same with state funds; or, as Scroll reported, arguing for both outcomes in the Polavaram project. The uncomplicated assertions of the campaign seem a distance away. Fraternising with the enemy When Kashmiri separatist leader Yasin Malik met Laskhar-e-Tayyeba founder Hafiz Saeed, a wanted terrorist on whom the United States has a $10 million bounty, the BJP had a field day. At the time, party spokesperson Prakash Javadekar called for Malik to be arrested, for his passport to be confiscated and for further action to be taken against him. Yet, in government, the BJP has responded very differently to the news that Ved Prakash Vaidik, a journalist close to BJP supporter Baba Ramdev, sat down for tea with Saeed on a trip to Pakistan last month. Union Minister Arun Jaitley distanced the government and the party from Vaidik, saying he had not been given any sanction to meet with Saeed, but refused to call for any further action against him. The BJP’s spokespersons then fanned out on the evening news shows to insist that the situation could not be compared to the Malik incident, because Vaidik – who has not published any story regarding Saeed – was a journalist who should be allowed to meet who he wishes, even if that is a terrorist. Ramdev, meanwhile, defended the meeting with the LeT founder, saying he was certain Vaidik was trying to “change Hafiz Saeed’s heartâ€. Top Secret In March, when Australian journalist Neville Maxwell decided to upload a large portion of the Henderson Brooks-Bhagat report, which examined Indian failures in its disastrous war with China in 1962, the Congress government announced that the report was still classified and could not be made public. The BJP immediately attacked the government over this, with then-Leader of Opposition in the Rajya Sabha Arun Jaitley writing a blogpost asking whether the report was simply being suppressed to save those in power in 1962, a reference to prime minister Jawaharlal Nehru. “The first 111 pages having been made public, it is now necessary that the balance pages also be made public rather than allow public opinion be influenced by unauthentic sources,†Jaitley wrote. “Was a Himalayan blunder of 1962 in fact a Nehruvian blunder?†As Defence Minister, however, he appears to be singing a different tune. In reply to a question in the Rajya Sabha, Jaitley gave a straightforward statement saying the government would not be declassifying the document or releasing it, saying any disclosure of its contents “would not be in national interestâ€. Off the rails With coalitions playing such a big role in national politics in India now, most governments are especially constricted over rail fares, with any hikes inevitably met with threats from coalition partners. Modi’s government does not face that kind of restriction, so it should be free of that kind of concern. Yet the Centre has managed to make two railway-related U-turns already. In 2012, when chief minister of Gujarat, Modi wrote to the prime minister asking him to withdraw announced increases in the railway fares before the rail budget, claiming the government had “bypassed parliament.†But just a few weeks before Modi’s government presented its own rail budget, it announced a rail fare hike – which would later allow it to claim in a press release that the budget itself contained no increases in fares. Once the actual hikes were announced, however, the government faced the familiar pushback from stakeholders across the system – especially from his own party in Maharashtra, which will go to polls later this year. By cancelling the fare hikes for suburban rail, the government decided to partially roll back what it once called a much-needed bitter pill. Clean chit The BJP’s eventual response to the Congress’s PJ Kurien, the deputy chairman of the Rajya Sabha, facing charges in the Suryanelli rape case was to call for his resignation. BJP spokesperson Prakash Javadekar made it clear that the party believed Kurien ought to have stepped down on “moral grounds†and not hold office until he had been absolved of all charges. When one of the BJP’s own ministers was caught in a similar situation, however, the response was quite different. After Union minister of state for chemicals and fertiliser Nihal Chand was summoned by a court for his alleged involvement in a rape case, the opposition and organisations like the national commission for women immediately began calling for Modi to sack him. The prime minister has remained silent on the issue, but his party has made it clear that they are not going to do anything about it. “A controversy is being manufactured against Nihalchand while there is no such thing,†BJP spokesperson Shahnawaz Hussain insisted, while Meenakshi Lekhi, a Member of Parliament from the party, said that nothing could be done until substantial evidence emerged against the minister. Save and Spend The radio ads featured a personification of inflation having to disappear because Modi was coming. The TV ads promised things would get cheaper if the BJP was voted in. The billboards claimed, “bahut ho gayi mehengai ki maar, ab ki baar Modi sarkar.†(Enough of all the damage caused by price rise, this time it’s Modi’s turn in charge). And Modi himself went after the government for its “anti-people policy†of hiking diesel prices and reducing the number of subsidised LPG cylinders that citizens will be entitled to. This government, however, has maintained the United Progressive Alliance’s policy on diesel price rationalization, hiking the price by small amounts every month. Modi had also criticised the Congress’ decision to bring down the number of subsidised LPG cylinders to just 6 a year, which was later raised to 9 and then 12. Modi had at the time claimed a household needs 24 cylinders a year. Earlier this month, however, the oil ministry decided to hike prices on unsubsidised LPG cylinders – the cap is set at 12 – and put out a press release saying that more than 99% of domestic consumers use less than that number of cylinders per year, so will be unaffected by the hike. http://scroll.in/article/670474/Five-big-U-turns-the-Modi-government-has-already-made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Btw Sudhendra Kulkarni is also in Apna dil dil Pakistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FischerTal Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 in my locality i know both rss guys who are the main bjp workers. one is a harami property dealer, the other is a mota businessman. Being BJP workers, they use approaches in govt. for their advantage. and since they get their photos printed on banners of bjp in the area and from what i hear, they have ambitions to someday get election ticket . guess they will obviously cash it if they win a seat in future ... AAP>BJP, there is simply no comparison. :cantstop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Five big U-turns the Modi government has already made From defending a rape-accused minister to ensuring the 1962 war report remains classified, the BJP seems to share the Congress' propensity for the flip-flop. http://scroll.in/article/670474/Five-big-U-turns-the-Modi-government-has-already-made Robert Vadra Aadhar Bangladesh Visa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 NO. RIL doesn't have to pay a penny out of their pocket. They dont pay a penny, but they dont get anything too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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