seedhi Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Some acche din developments from the past month: 1. Muslims burned alive along with their houses.After the body of a Hindu boy who married a muslim girl was found. In Bihar. Ruled by secular Nitish. 2. Tens of thousands people displaced due to shelling from Pakistan.Pakistan has banned Jamaat-ud-dawa and frozen its funds. Cosmetic, but something Manmohan and friends couldnt force pakis to do. 3. Citizens with no criminal charges or history prevented from traveling abroad to friendly countries.Lie. Was out on bail.
seedhi Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 BTW' date=' how many people were prevented from travelling? care to list them out[/quote']There was one boy from Hyderabad who was traveling to join ISIS I believe. But the green lizard was probably referring to the greenpeace warrioress, not the green religion warrior.
The Outsider Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Shameful! Bihar state government which controls Law and Order will have to answer. The communal poison being spread by the BJP, specially in election bound states can only be controlled to a limited extent by state governments. Shameful! Pakistan and its supporters will have to answer. Glad you agree that the government failed to protect the lives, livelihood, and homes of its citizens from Pakistan. Shameful! Judiciary should answer this. Judiciary has nothing to do with it. 1.Failed to mention that the Muslims had lynched a Hindu boy first.Or may be Hindu lives are dispensable. After the body of a Hindu boy who married a muslim girl was found. In Bihar. Ruled by secular Nitish. The body of a Hindu man was found in a field belonging to a Muslim. I am pretty sure the child who was burnt alive had nothing to do with it. Moreover, it would be quite dumb of a Muslim to kill a Hindu and place the body in his field. Was probably an honor killing, which was then given a communal hue by Hindutva elements placing the body in a field belonging to a Muslim. 2.Also failed to mention that Pakistan has taken a bigger hit. Pakistan has banned Jamaat-ud-dawa and frozen its funds. Cosmetic, but something Manmohan and friends couldnt force pakis to do. Irrelevant stuff. Fact is the government has failed to protect the lives, livelihood, and homes of its citizens from Pakistan and have forced tens of thousands of people into refugee camps. 3.Intelligence input say green peace is involved in running disruptive activities on behalf of foreign govt.s and the initial probe and censure on GreenPeace was put by UPA. The person in question does not have any charges which prevent her from traveling outside the country by any court order. BTW, just FEI, that green peace person was out on bail. You cannot leave the country when you are out on bail. Says who? It depends on the terms and conditions of the bail. Do you think Salman Khan has been shooting all his movies in India for the last 15 years? BTW' date=' how many people were prevented from travelling? care to list them out[/quote'] Who knows! Only high profile cases will make news in the media. But there was a Shia cleric who was prevented from traveling as well. Obviously, I meant no criminal charges which prevent her from traveling outside the country by any order from a court.
Khalpat Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 The communal poison being spread by the BJP, specially in election bound states can only be controlled to a limited extent by state governments. Please be specific. What communal poison was spread by BJP in Mujaffarpur of Bihar? I belong to that part therefore I am curious to know.
seedhi Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 The body of a Hindu man was found in a field belonging to a Muslim. I am pretty sure the child who was burnt alive had nothing to do with it. Moreover' date=' it would be quite dumb of a Muslim to kill a Hindu and place the body in his field. Was probably an honor killing, which was then given a communal hue by Hindutva elements placing the body in a field belonging to a Muslim.[/quote']This is really bizarre stuff. At least read what the Bihar police and the residents of the area are saying. Where the HELL is Hindutva elements in this?
The Outsider Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Please be specific. What communal poison was spread by BJP in Mujaffarpur of Bihar? I belong to that part therefore I am curious to know. This is really bizarre stuff. At least read what the Bihar police and the residents of the area are saying. Where the HELL is Hindutva elements in this? It's possible that a Muslim did kill that Hindu man, but it's not possible to mobilize 8,000 people into a violent mob without the backing of political and/or religious leaders. Whether it is Muzaffarnagar before the Lok Sabha elections, Saharanpur before the UP by elections, Trilokpur before the Delhi elections, and now Muzzafarpur before the Bihar state elections - the trend is clear. The primary beneficiary of a Hindu vote polarization is the BJP and it's not difficult to see the involvement of Hindutva elements to benefit them.
seedhi Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 It's possible that a Muslim did kill that Hindu man' date=' but it's not possible to mobilize 8,000 people into a violent mob without the backing of political and/or religious leaders. Whether it is Muzaffarnagar before the Lok Sabha elections, Saharanpur before the UP by elections, Trilokpur before the Delhi elections, and now Muzzafarpur before the Bihar state elections - the trend is clear. The primary beneficiary of a Hindu vote polarization is the BJP and it's not difficult to see the involvement of Hindutva elements to benefit them.[/quote']Reminds me of some of the mathematical induction "proofs" in exam papers where the student has no idea how to proceed. Just write the statement you want to show, prove the base case for k=1 (usually a triviality), write the inductive hypothesis for k>=1, and then for the inductive step just say that using the base case and inductive hypothesis "clearly" or "it is easy to see that" the statement holds for k+1. QED.
veer Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 PM Modi Launches the 'Beti Bachao, Beti Padhao Yojana' in Panipat: Highlights PM Modi Launches the 'Beti Bachao, Beti Padhao Yojana' in Panipat: Highlights All India | NDTV.com | Updated: January 22, 2015 15:45 IST Ads by Google Panipat, Haryana: Prime Minister Narendra Modi launched the 'Beti Bachao, Beti Padhao Yojana' (Save the girl child, educate the girl child scheme) in Panipat on Thursday. Maneka Gandhi and Madhuri Dixit were also present at the launch, and addressed the attendees. Here are the highlights of Madhuri Dixit and Maneka Gandhi's speech at the launch: I am very happy to be here. I am very happy to see so many women and children here: Madhuri Dixit at 'Beti Bachao Beti Padhao' programme. We have reached the moon and mars but sadly, still some view the daughter as a burden: Madhuri Dixit I am proud that in their first year in office, the Government started this initiative. I have immense expectations from this: Madhuri Dixit I thank PM Modi that he took up this issue with seriousness & talked about importance of 'Beti Bachao Beti Padhao': Union Minister Maneka Gandhi The birth of a girl child must be celebrated: Union Minister Maneka Gandhi Here are the highlights of PM Modi's speech at the launch: As a society we all have a responsibility. We have to be aware. I am glad Maneka ji and her team selected Haryana. And I congratulate the CM to accept the challenge. The message is for entire nation. If we don't realise the crisis brought by female foeticide, our coming generations will face a major problem. People want educated daughters-in-law but think several times before educating their daughters. How can this go on. We do not have the right to kill the girl child. I appeal to doctors not to carry out sex determination tests. India's PM is standing in front of you as a beggar. I have come here to beg for the life of the girl child. The thought that only a son will take care of you during your old age is incorrect. Let's not look back and shift blame, lets wake up and work together to get rid of this scourge. Beta Beti Ek Samaan...this should be our Mantra. Madhuri ji is here with. Her mother is unwell but she is in Panipat. She is here with a message to save the girl child.
veer Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 ^^ This was much needed... Thank goodness Modi started this campaign.
The Outsider Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Reminds me of some of the mathematical induction "proofs" in exam papers where the student has no idea how to proceed. Just write the statement you want to show' date=' prove the base case for k=1 (usually a triviality), write the inductive hypothesis for k>=1, and then for the inductive step just say that using the base case and inductive hypothesis "clearly" or "it is easy to see that" the statement holds for k+1. QED.[/quote'] Involvement of Hindutva/BJP leaders was shown in all cases mentioned above through a combination of eye witness accounts, police investigation, and probe reports. You can wait for the probe to end in the Muzaffarpur incident for your "proof". Or you can see how obvious it is that you need political/religious leadership to whip up 8,000 people into a violent mob and which political/religious leadership will benefit the most from it.
Khalpat Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 It's possible that a Muslim did kill that Hindu man' date=' but it's not possible to mobilize 8,000 people into a violent mob without the backing of political and/or religious leaders. Whether it is Muzaffarnagar before the Lok Sabha elections, Saharanpur before the UP by elections, Trilokpur before the Delhi elections, and now Muzzafarpur before the Bihar state elections - the trend is clear. The primary beneficiary of a Hindu vote polarization is the BJP and it's not difficult to see the involvement of Hindutva elements to benefit them.[/quote'] Dude you have no idea how mob works in India. A bheer of 8000 10000 is no big deal. Their is a neighboring city of Gopalganj, a mob of more than 20000 killed the DM of city. Their are lots of other examples like in Jahanabad aise hi gaon ke gaon with mob of more than10k attacks a village. Stop being cynical. You really belong to UP?
seedhi Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Involvement of Hindutva/BJP leaders was shown in all cases mentioned above through a combination of eye witness accounts' date=' police investigation, and probe reports. You can wait for the probe to end in the Muzaffarpur incident for your "proof". Or you can see how obvious it is that you need political/religious leadership to whip up 8,000 people into a violent mob and which political/religious leadership will benefit the most from it.[/quote']In case where so-called Hindutva or political leaders are "involved", the mainstream media reported on it concurrently with the incident. In the Muzaffarnagar case, the involvement of various political leaders from Congress, BJP, SP, BSP was extensively reported upon and discussed on this forum too. I am waiting for any news report of political/Hindutva involvement in this case. The residents of that area seem to suggest that it was a flareup due to the inter-religious love affair and the inaction of the police.
Khalpat Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Last year one of the bania of nearby village of mine in northern bihar said abusive word to a thakur guy of my village and within two hours a huge mob of whole of the village around 5000 people killed the bania and burnt his shop. Their was no politician involved, if god forbid in place of bania it was a Muslim, the cynical NRI would have blamed Modi after reading this news in outlook. This is UP and Bihar outty not New Jersey mob of 5000 is not a big thing.
dial_100 Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 It's possible that a Muslim did kill that Hindu man' date=' but it's not possible to mobilize 8,000 people into a violent mob without the backing of political and/or religious leaders. Whether it is Muzaffarnagar before the Lok Sabha elections, Saharanpur before the UP by elections, Trilokpur before the Delhi elections, and now Muzzafarpur before the Bihar state elections - the trend is clear. The primary beneficiary of a Hindu vote polarization is the BJP and it's not difficult to see the involvement of Hindutva elements to benefit them.[/quote'] There is a definite trend. If this is true, it must stop. But to assume that BJP is carrying it out is far fetched. I cant say more on this topic but that's my gut feeling on this.
Raghav_12 Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 BTW' date=' just FEI, that green peace person was out on bail. You cannot leave the country when you are out on bail.[/quote'] Do you even know what you are talking about? Let us know where you found this or facts are very dispensable commodity in act of bhakthood.
jalebi_bhai Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 Do you even know what you are talking about? Let us know where you found this or facts are very dispensable commodity in act of bhakthood. Listen, you cannot leave the country if you are out on bail, unless the courts give you permission, like in the case of Salman Khan and his foreign shooting (fair enough, I'm back tracking a bit). You don't believe me? Try it for yourself.
Raghav_12 Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 Listen, you cannot leave the country if you are out on bail, unless the courts give you permission, like in the case of Salman Khan and his foreign shooting (fair enough, I'm back tracking a bit). You don't believe me? Try it for yourself. I have done it myself. Trust me. If court has not mentioned in bail order that you can't leave the country without informing, a person on bail is as free to go abroad as any other person. So your statement that person on bail can't go outside country is trash.
jalebi_bhai Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 I have done it myself. Trust me. :omg: What was your offence?
Raghav_12 Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 :omg: What was your offence? can't discuss that on a public forum. but i needed a bail to stay out.
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