seedhi Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Significantly? Let's leave it to a neutral judgment. Hindu fertility is 2.65, Muslim is at 3.09 falling faster than Hindus. Muslim female ratio is roughly 950 - 910 ( going by memory). It's a simple mathematical calculation from here to note what was being implied.Just like students who do not have answers to questions, they usually write that it is a "simple calculation" to obtain the desired result. Pray tell us, how does the sex ratio impact the fertility rate which is average children per woman? Now to actual numbers: According to the most recent data that’s been analyzed from the 2001 census, the sex ratio among Hindus, who account for almost four-fifths of the population, was 931. The comparable ratio for Muslims, who make up less than 15% of the population, was 936. http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2012/05/09/economics-journal-why-do-indias-muslims-have-a-better-sex-ratio-than-hindus/ So the sex ratio of Hindus is 931 vs 936 for Muslims. And according to your simple mathematics this is a significant factor for the substantial difference in the population growth rates? The Muslim decadal population growth in 2001-11 was 24% vs 14.5% for Hindus. I seriously doubt your acumen in statistics.
randomGuy Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Just like students who do not have answers to questions' date=' they usually write that it is a "simple calculation" to obtain the desired result.[b'] Pray tell us, how does the sex ratio impact the fertility rate which is average children per woman? Now to actual numbers: So the sex ratio of Hindus is 931 vs 936 for Muslims. And according to your simple mathematics this is a significant factor for the substantial difference in the population growth rates? The Muslim decadal population growth in 2001-11 was 24% vs 14.5% for Hindus. I seriously doubt your acumen in statistics. It does effect Replacement rates. For developed nations, replacement rate is 2.1. for developing, it is 2.33 due to higher infant mortality and due to skewed sex ratio and due to net emigration
seedhi Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 It does effect Replacement rates. For developed nations' date=' replacement rate is 2.1. for developing, it is 2.33 due to higher infant mortality and due to skewed sex ratio and due to net emigration[/quote']Not the fertility rate. In any case the difference in the Hindu vs Muslim sex ratios is too small to cause the chasm in the growth rates. Again, the decadal 2001-11 growth rate for Muslims was 24% vs 14.5% for Hindus. That is a huge gap.
seedhi Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 That's quite an Islamophobic rant. To show how hollow and full of twisted facts it is, I'll just pick on one point. The percentage of population of Muslims in India is expected to stabilize around 18%, made through well thought out projections. That is no reason for the alarm being raised by the Hindutva groups. That percentage in no way makes India even close to being a Muslim dominated country. And one of the significant reasons that the percentage of population of Muslims is increasing compared with Hindus is because of a better sex ratio among all age groups - the prevalence of females being aborted is lower among Muslims than in Hindus. Hindutva groups would do better to stop that practice than spread doomsday rumors divorced from facts.Please provide some link to these projection analyses. I would like to see how they come up with this number.
randomGuy Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Not the fertility rate. In any case the difference in the Hindu vs Muslim sex ratios is too small to cause the chasm in the growth rates. Again' date=' the decadal 2001-11 growth rate for Muslims was 24% vs 14.5% for Hindus. That is a huge gap.[/quote'] Thats right. sex ratio doesnt seem an applicable point here. Infant mortality would be much more of a valid point. Muslim percentage will approach 50% in cities specially, like in Lucknow n Hyd. Next in line are Mumbai, kolkata then delhi among others.
Khalpat Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 I responded in a similar vein to your post that you responded to mine, slightly better in fact where you picked one sentence to base your reply upon. All of this has nothing to do with the one area we were discussing about. Let's have separate chains of discussion, rather than muddling it up. I would end this discussion with following lines of popular hindi number : kyun sach ka sabak sikhaye jab sach sun bhi na paaye sach koi bole to tu, niyam kaanoon bataye
FischerTal Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 I would end this discussion with following lines of popular hindi number : kyun sach ka sabak sikhaye jab sach sun bhi na paaye sach koi bole to tu, niyam kaanoon bataye sadda haq aithe raq :hitler:
The Outsider Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Just like students who do not have answers to questions, they usually write that it is a "simple calculation" to obtain the desired result. Pray tell us, how does the sex ratio impact the fertility rate which is average children per woman? Now to actual numbers: So the sex ratio of Hindus is 931 vs 936 for Muslims. And according to your simple mathematics this is a significant factor for the substantial difference in the population growth rates? The Muslim decadal population growth in 2001-11 was 24% vs 14.5% for Hindus. I seriously doubt your acumen in statistics. Huh? Where did I claim sex ratio impacts the fertility rate? Please point it out.
The Outsider Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 Please provide some link to these projection analyses. I would like to see how they come up with this number. Sachaar committee report and the latest issue of Outlook. Though one doesn't need sophisticated analysis to derive the conclusion. The results might be 20% Muslim population depending on how much one is willing to accept the underlying assumptions without delving in the realms of total lunacy.
The Outsider Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 Christians have by far the best sex ratio in India. By your logic' date=' can you care to explain why the proportion of Christian population in India has remained stable, but Muslim population increased?[/quote'] By what logic of mine? Sex ratio is one of the significant factors, and that doesn't mean the factor cannot be negated by other competing factors like a low fertility average.
The Outsider Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 And Yogendra Yadav used that during election rally. Do you find anything wrong in Yogendra Yadav portraying that he comes from a liberal household which named him along the lines of a name usually associated with the community who killed his grandfather in a riot?
The Outsider Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 Meanwhile, in another episode of acche din another church has been vandalized in Delhi- fifth occurrence in the last few months.
Yoda-esque Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 Meanwhile' date=' in another episode of acche din another church has been vandalized in Delhi- fifth occurrence in the last few months.[/quote'] Oh dear, minorities running for cover..Apocalypse Now! Wait ,that's Shireen Dalvi..nevermind
seedhi Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 Huh? Where did I claim sex ratio impacts the fertility rate? Please point it out.You claimed that the difference in sex ratios is a significant cause for difference in population growth rates and said that some simple mathematical calculation can show that. Please show us that simple mathematical calculation.
coffee_rules Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 By what logic of mine? Sex ratio is one of the significant factors' date=' and that doesn't mean the factor cannot be negated by other competing factors like a low fertility average.[/quote'] Is there any research on multiple partners (up to 4) that helps to succeed in creating an offspring rather than one for most of others?
bulbul Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 Do you find anything wrong in Yogendra Yadav portraying that he comes from a liberal household which named him along the lines of a name usually associated with the community who killed his grandfather in a riot? Only problem is he and his fellow AAP guys act like they own all the moral high ground. The episode just shows that he is like any other average politician who uses every opportunity to get votes. His father may not have thought son will some day use the name to get political advantage.
The Outsider Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 You claimed that the difference in sex ratios is a significant cause for difference in population growth rates and said that some simple mathematical calculation can show that. Please show us that simple mathematical calculation. Please first point out where I claimed that sex ratio impacts the fertility rate. I've provided references for your question already.
The Outsider Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 Is there any research on multiple partners (up to 4) that helps to succeed in creating an offspring rather than one for most of others? How is that relevant for anyone to research? The relevant factors are: 1. Fertility rate per woman. 2. Sex ratio in the 20-40 age group. 3. Rate of change in the above two factors.
The Outsider Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 Only problem is he and his fellow AAP guys act like they own all the moral high ground. The episode just shows that he is like any other average politician who uses every opportunity to get votes. His father may not have thought son will some day use the name to get political advantage. Never knew using a nickname whose origin lies in the idea of communal harmony is taking a moral high ground.
Texan Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 By what logic of mine? Sex ratio is one of the significant factors' date=' and that doesn't mean the factor cannot be negated by other competing factors like a low fertility average.[/quote'] You are sugar-coating facts to suit your argument. The single most important factor that is causing this high birth rate is the lack of use of contraceptives, either due to personal or religious preferences. Sex ratio has little to no impact.
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