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Malcolm Merlyn

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if 11 sachins were to play 11 sangas, this hypothetical sanga team will smash the sachin team by 110 runs in tests every single time on account of the 5 runs that sanga outscores sachin by in a completed innings. that is some mind blowing stuff right there.
Only issue is all matches had to be played in Lanka. Sanga avgs less than 40 in Eng/SA/WI/India. Thats 4 out of the top 7 test playing nations.This isnt island.lk where half truth stats work.Sanga isnt fit to Sachins shoelaces. Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk
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Muloghonto Experienced

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Phuck! We have two better test cricketers already better than Tendulkar. Murali and Sanga. Murali as a bowler, and Sanga as a wk-bat both are better than Tendulkar.
The first one is debatable but the second one is just statistical tomfoolery. Sanga is nowhere in Tendulkar's class as a bat. Tendulkar didn't just dominate at home (which by the way, in India is 10+ grounds, not 4 like Sri Lanka!) he dominated awy from home at age 20. Sanga is finally learning how to score runs outside his comfort zone near the end of his career. Sanga, like Ponting, Dravid, Kallis, etc- are in the tier blow the true greats, the likes of Steve Waugh, Lara, Tendulkar, Viv, Gavaskar, etc- dominated home & away (or atleast put up runs) all through the career. Sanga as a keeper is good but not worldclass material. Just like how Tendulkar the fielder is good but not world class material.
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Muloghonto Experienced

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if 11 sachins were to play 11 sangas, this hypothetical sanga team will smash the sachin team by 110 runs in tests every single time on account of the 5 runs that sanga outscores sachin by in a completed innings. that is some mind blowing stuff right there.
11 Sachins between themselves have almost 600 wickets in test cricket. 11 sangas have zero wickets. team of 11 sachins beat 11 sangas because team sachin can take wickets way way better than team sanga. So now, who wins ? Also, Sachin has scored more runs than Sanga at nearly the same average, at home and away against much much better opposition than Sanga. Thats what makes Sachin better than Sanga. For eg, from 1993 to 2011, a duration spanning 19 years, Tendulkar scored 14203 runs @ 58.20, with 47 centuries and 60 fifties in 274 innings. That alone, is against a much better quality bowling, over a much longer span, on much harder pitches, both home and away, agsinst the best, etc. than Sanga's record. So how is Sanga better ?
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renjith Newbie

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Can be a legend by the time he retires if he maintains this form for the last 3-4 years of his career. some stats for comparison: Tendulkar Batting Averages Home: 52.67 Away: 54.75 Overall: 53.79 Against Aus: 55.00 Against Eng: 51.73 Against SA: 42.46 Lara Batting Averages Home: 58.65 Away: 47.80 Overall: 52.89 Against Aus: 51.00 Against Eng: 62.15 Against SA: 49.00 Ponting Batting Averages Home: 56.98 Away: 46.40 Overall: 51.85 Against Ind: 54.36 Against Eng: 44.21 Against SA: 47.38 Kallis Batting Averages Home: 56.73 Away: 53.91 Overall: 55.37 Against Aus: 41.22 Against Eng: 44.60 Against Ind: 69.36 Sangakara Batting Averages Home: 63.28 Away: 53.75 Overall: 58.54 Against Aus: 43.90 Against Eng: 38.14 Against SA: 48.64

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The first one is debatable
There's not even a debate, Even india will pick Murali over Sachin every time in a test match. Murali is in a elite class only less than half a dozen of people are in. Tendulkar has more than a dozen of competitors. As a player Sanga the wk-bat is ahead of Tendulkar. It doesn't need stats. Sanga's keeping is few classes above SRt's bowling and that nails the comparison
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Can be a legend by the time he retires if he maintains this form for the last 3-4 years of his career. some stats for comparison: Tendulkar Batting Averages Home: 52.67 Away: 54.75 Overall: 53.79 Against Aus: 55.00 Against Eng: 51.73 Against SA: 42.46 Lara Batting Averages Home: 58.65 Away: 47.80 Overall: 52.89 Against Aus: 51.00 Against Eng: 62.15 Against SA: 49.00 Ponting Batting Averages Home: 56.98 Away: 46.40 Overall: 51.85 Against Ind: 54.36 Against Eng: 44.21 Against SA: 47.38 Kallis Batting Averages Home: 56.73 Away: 53.91 Overall: 55.37 Against Aus: 41.22 Against Eng: 44.60 Against Ind: 69.36 Sangakara Batting Averages Home: 63.28 Away: 53.75 Overall: 58.54 Against Aus: 43.90 Against Eng: 38.14 Against SA: 48.64
What is their awayavgs in the countries mentioned above? Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk
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What is their awayavgs in the countries mentioned above? Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk
Okay this is one long query let me give it a go. These are the averages in respective countries. These are against the top countries. Tendulkar Batting Averages Home: 52.67 Away: 54.75 Overall: 53.79 In Aus: 53.20 In Eng: 54.31 In NZ: 49.52 In Pak: 40.25 In SA: 46.44 In SL: 67.94 Lara Batting Averages Home: 58.65 Away: 47.80 Overall: 52.89 In Aus: 41.97 In Eng: 48.76 In NZ: 36.90 In Pak: 48.15 In SA: 46.72 In SL: 100.85 In Ind: 33.00 Ponting Batting Averages Home: 56.98 Away: 46.40 Overall: 51.85 In Eng: 41.79 In NZ: 60.33 In Pak: 119.00 (just 1 match) In SA: 46.85 In SL: 48.20 In Ind: 26.48 Kallis Batting Averages Home: 56.73 Away: 53.91 Overall: 55.37 In Aus: 48.23 In Eng: 35.33 In NZ: 59.00 In Pak: 83.14 -- And In UAE: 55.83 In SL: 35.33 In Ind: 58.46 Sangakara Batting Averages Home: 63.28 Away: 53.75 Overall: 58.54 In Aus: 60.33 In Eng: 37.05 In NZ: 66.80 In SA: 35.75 In Pak: 86.87 -- And In UAE: 62.00 In Ind: 36.50
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like i've said before, sachin's greatest claim to fame is that he matured into a decent test player at a very young age. he was always a consistent player without ever being a dominating one in tests. i think even with tendulkar in the team, the indian team did not win a test away from the subcontinent (not even in zimbabwe) until 2000 or 2001. it's a shame sanga kept and batted at no 3 for about 45 tests of his career. it's something that has rarely been successfully done..possibly never. sanga was always a trend setter and willing to take on responsibility like that to his own record's detriment. but no i don't believe he's the second best test batsman ever just like tendulkar isn't. there are people like sobers, viv, hobbs etc who changed the way the game was played and have superior records, either statistically or by account of how many influential innings they played. sachin is a great just like lara, ponting, kallis, border etc etc etc. just because 1/6th of the world population have underachieved so heavily in sports is no reason to pretend somebody is the greatest when he clearly is not.

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like i've said before, sachin's greatest claim to fame is that he matured into a decent test player at a very young age. he was always a consistent player without ever being a dominating one in tests. i think even with tendulkar in the team, the indian team did not win a test away from the subcontinent (not even in zimbabwe) until 2000 or 2001. it's a shame sanga kept and batted at no 3 for about 45 tests of his career. it's something that has rarely been successfully done..possibly never. sanga was always a trend setter and willing to take on responsibility like that to his own record's detriment. but no i don't believe he's the second best test batsman ever just like tendulkar isn't. there are people like sobers, viv, hobbs etc who changed the way the game was played and have superior records, either statistically or by account of how many influential innings they played. sachin is a great just like lara, ponting, kallis, border etc etc etc. just because 1/6th of the world population have underachieved so heavily in sports is no reason to pretend somebody is the greatest when he clearly is not.
You keep on harping upon the same facts again and again. The fact is, no batsman can ever win a test match on his own. For, every great inning out there, there has always been a decent bowling performance which leads to victories. Sachin's record in every country, against every top quality bowling is what makes him what he is. And I am sorry, no one has been able to replicate that.
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