Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[MK55]

4 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Yes. 

i don’t remember him getting injured at least a few months after being dropped. What injury was it?

[Suhaan]

12 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

We need to groom proper batsmen instead of bits and pieces players. Need to bring in Rinku Singh in test cricket.

 

Rinku Singh itna garda udaa dega ki opposition ko kuch nahi dikhega and we will win

[express bowling]

12 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

We need to groom proper batsmen instead of bits and pieces players. Need to bring in Rinku Singh in test cricket.

 

 

At 8, we need a specialist pacer who can bat a bit.  ( We have 3 spinners at 6,7 and 9 )

[Suhaan]

3 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

At 8, we need a specialist pacer who can bat a bit.  ( We have 3 spinners at 6,7 and 9 )

Even if we get a left arm spinner who can bat which we seem to have in domestics,will be quite helpful in India

Overseas ,we certainly need a pace bowling AR at 8 or Sundar as lone spinner but he needs to be bowled more

[rkt.india]

44 minutes ago, MK55 said:

i don’t remember him getting injured at least a few months after being dropped. What injury was it?

His last domestic match was ipl match vs MI on March 27, 2024. Was dropped after wi tour in 2023 August September as he didn't perform well. Then played domestic, later got injured.

Edited November 22, 2025 by rkt.india

[tapandrun]

27 minutes ago, express bowling said:

What is Nitish Reddy's role in the test team ?

 

He bats at 8 ... which is the slot for a specialist bowler who can bat a bit.

 

Nitish is not even a good backup bowler, let alone a specialist bowler. And he is not a specialist batsman yet.

 

At 8, we need someone like Harshit or any other proper pacer with some batting ability. Or an Axar or Harsh Dubey if we are looking for a spinner.

 

 

There is a better player who Ind could have tied  to develop over nkr.  ramakrishna gosh he has decent height, bowls at lively pace. Is a capable batter for #7/8/9 position

 

 

 

 

Edited November 22, 2025 by tapandrun

[express bowling]

3 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Even if we get a left arm spinner who can bat which we seem to have in domestics,will be quite helpful in India

Overseas ,we certainly need a pace bowling AR at 8 or Sundar as lone spinner but he needs to be bowled more

 

Here, we already have 3 spinners of 3 different varieties.  Another left armer would be an overkill and would be underutilized. 

 

Since the TM are wanting a backup pacer, it is better to go for a Harshit type specialist pacer with some batting ability.

[MK55]

5 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

His last domestic match was ipl match vs MI on March 27, 2024. Was dropped after winning tour in 2023 August September as he didn't perform well. Then played domestic, later got injured.

Right so that’s my point. He wasn’t injured right after being dropped. And he bowled like what 2 overs in those T20s (iirc)? 

Edited November 22, 2025 by MK55

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

Here, we already have 3 spinners of 3 different varieties.  Another left armer would be an overkill and would be underutilized. 

 

Since the TM are wanting a backup pacer, it is better to go for a Harshit type specialist pacer with some batting ability.

I'm talking about the most possible scenario,they won't play Harshit at 8,who can bat

They could have tried someone like Rinku ,who is now a batting AR

Edited November 22, 2025 by Suhaan

[express bowling]

Bumrah  143.x kph

 

5 of the 6 deliveries in his 15th over of the day at 140 k+.

[singhvivek141]

16th over and Bumrah is trundling 128-133 kph

[express bowling]

50 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

16th over and Bumrah is trundling 128-133 kph

 

You mean his 17th over. One off over spell.

 

Bumrah was hovering around 141 k in his 16th over.

[express bowling]

Bumrah  24th over

 

140

143

141

143 .. Cracking yorker, batter falls down 

137

142

[express bowling]

Bumrah  bowling a bouncer barrage now in his 28th over.

 

Very quick bouncers which keep on rising.

 

Siraj missed a catch off one such bouncer.

Edited November 23, 2025 by express bowling

[express bowling]

Bumrah 

 

146.x kph

144.4 kph

[express bowling]

Bumrah  32nd over

 

Slower 

138 .. good bumper

139 .. vicious short ball hits Jansen on the arm

143

144

146

 

 

Edited November 23, 2025 by express bowling

[MK55]

Has Siraj even touched 140k this test?

[express bowling]

1 minute ago, MK55 said:

Has Siraj even touched 140k this test?

 

Saw 142 k+ and some at 140 k too from Siraj.

[MK55]

This attack is such a downgrade in these conditions. In 2016 we had Umesh Shami bowling 145k in important spells with reverse swing. Even Ishant had been an enforcer after 2016 and bowling quick.

 

The fact of the matter is that these clowns can’t play spin and lately they definitely also don’t have the bowling line up to consistently outperform / dismiss teams below par on good batting tracks. 
 

It’s time to calibrate the expectations. The talent is lacking - whichever way u put it. 

Edited November 23, 2025 by MK55

[Suhaan]

43 minutes ago, MK55 said:

This attack is such a downgrade in these conditions. In 2016 we had Umesh Shami bowling 145k in important spells with reverse swing. Even Ishant had been an enforcer after 2016 and bowling quick.

 

The fact of the matter is that these clowns can’t play spin and lately they definitely also don’t have the bowling line up to consistently outperform / dismiss teams below par on good batting tracks. 
 

It’s time to calibrate the expectations. The talent is lacking - whichever way u put it. 

Pace bowling is at all time low

Sides likeus who have no rich history of fast bowling,depended on easy contests like WI,ZIM,SL(post Murli,Vaas) to test our young pacers

Now with stupid WTC ,we end up grinding same set of first choice bowlers,in someway that helped those bowlers to get used to international games

Umesh was playing since 2011,Ishant since 2007 but they all turn it around with a leader like Arun

Sooner or later we have to test Gurnoor,Simar,Apple Tom maybe they aren't earth shattering but they will surely benefit from getting games ,need some genius like Bharat Arun to transform our pace attack or build a world class pace attack once again

We had a tremendous pace attack then,the team did well due to it

 

Edited November 23, 2025 by Suhaan