ThePhenomenal1 Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 Why was he not part of our bowling pool for last 5 years. Another hang your head in shame for dhoni. Instead dhoni has no doubt been laughing at his plight for last 5 years. Evil SOB dont know if dhoni was laughing but his selection of ishant probably played some part. same with rohit who you wanted in this test (at cost of a bowler), rohit kept better candidates out.
PBN Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 wow, he actually got a game. I didn't think he would get a game before the series. Lucky break for him but unlucky as far the pitch and wickets go.
ThePhenomenal1 Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 at the end of the day, its not like india bowlers were beaten blue. they tried, got unlucky and chances dropped and not given and england also played well. its happened to other teams. atleast we are not trundling or carrying dead weight. shami is a concern but hopefully he strikes soon. someone needs to tell him to act up and bowl fuller. since nz he has been a different bowler :( hoping for a better day tomorrow. i believe we are a seamer (aaron) short
King Tendulkar Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 dont know if dhoni was laughing but his selection of ishant probably played some part. same with rohit who you wanted in this test (at cost of a bowler)' date=' rohit kept better candidates out.[/quote'] Yeah rohit the batsman has kept Pankaj the bowler out of indian set up for last 5 years. Jeez give me strength!!!
express bowling Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 Why was he not part of our bowling pool for last 5 years. It is really strange that a 6'6" pacer who can bowl 135 to 142 k , swings the ball both ways, seam movement too, steep bounce and takes loads of domestic wickets ..... was not even among our national team reserves ... Now the poor lad is 30...
msb1991 Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 at the end of the day' date=' its not like india bowlers were beaten blue. they tried, got unlucky and chances dropped and not given and england also played well. its happened to other teams. atleast we are not trundling or carrying [b']dead weight. This is the main thing. I am a big fan of this theory. A bowling attack has promise in Test cricket as long as it is not carrying dead weight anywhere. In England, often everyone other than Praveen was dead weight. Here it is different. Bhuveneshwar was probably the worst of the seamers and even he did not leak runs and beat the bat occasionally.
King Tendulkar Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 It is really strange that a 6'6" pacer who can bowl 135 to 142 k ' date=' swings the ball both ways, seam movement too, steep bounce and takes loads of domestic wickets ..... was not even among our national team reserves ... Now the poor lad is 30...[/quote'] Bizzare! Also starnge how strong 90mph plus fast bowler is not in squad and even when in is used like garbage. Welcome to the evil greedy political vindicictave world of MSD!
Marco Polo Posted July 27, 2014 Author Posted July 27, 2014 It is really strange that a 6'6" pacer who can bowl 135 to 142 k ' date=' swings the ball both ways, seam movement too, steep bounce and takes loads of domestic wickets ..... was not even among our national team reserves ... Now the poor lad is 30...[/quote'] to think bowlers like Vinny the pooh and unadkunt blocked his place makes me wonder if our selectors watch domestic matches. Maybe Rajasthan cricket association's troubled relationship with BCCI has something to do with this.
express bowling Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 This is the main thing. I am a big fan of this theory. A bowling attack has promise in Test cricket as long as it is not carrying dead weight anywhere. In England' date=' often everyone other than Praveen was dead weight. Here it is different. Bhuveneshwar was probably the worst of the seamers and even he did not leak runs and beat the bat occasionally.[/quote'] At last we are producing and picking some good quality test pacers. All the seamers are bowling with objectivity and effort. Another interesting thing is that we have at last got variety. Pace, bounce, swing, seam movement, control. Our pacer pool has it all to take care of various conditions that invariably present themselves in tests. Now, if we can bring in Umesh, A pool of Umesh, Shami, Ishant, BK , Pankaj, Aaron and Pandey would be very competitive.
express bowling Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 Bizzare! Also starnge how strong 90mph plus fast bowler is not in squad and even when in is used like garbage. Welcome to the evil greedy political vindicictave world of MSD! Umesh is a must. There are not many bowlers in the world who can swing the ball at 90 mph. And have a test strike rate of 46.
express bowling Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 to think bowlers like Vinny the pooh and unadkunt blocked his place makes me wonder if our selectors watch domestic matches. Maybe Rajasthan cricket association's troubled relationship with BCCI has something to do with this. Unadkat has been included in the A team again. Weenie is always lurking around the corner. When will we get rid of them ? For the first time I am seeing 6 deserving pacers in the test team. If only Umesh were here ....
ThePhenomenal1 Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 Unadkat has been included in the A team again. Weenie is always lurking around the corner. When will we get rid of them ? For the first time I am seeing 6 deserving pacers in the test team. If only Umesh were here .... +ve signs are that our pace bowlers beat england's at lords. and even though they struggled today, there were chances. They just didnt have the same potency. They will get better but its important to draft new bowlers in and show that there is competition. That will improve our pacer's hunger, i.e. shami.
maniac Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 Bizzare! Also starnge how strong 90mph plus fast bowler is not in squad and even when in is used like garbage. Welcome to the evil greedy political vindicictave world of MSD! Actually Aaron is in the squad too......glad pankaj did well.....wouldn't have minded Aaron a go ahead tbh...maybe in for shami the next game
Stuge Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 finally ,ishant out of the team .. somehow .. even if its one test match :hysterical:
ShebbySB Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 BK,Ishant,Umesh,Shami,Pankaj,Aaron we should continue with these 6 bowlers in Tests.Rotate them give them enough matches.I'll go with these 6 in Australia. Unfortunately Ishwar misses out coz we've his bigger,taller,quicker & more experienced version in Pankaj.
Texan Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 I didn't see the match today, so don't know how he bowled. Apparently, Jadeja dropped a sitter off his bowling early in Cook's innings. Regardless, it is an opportunity well earned for Pankaj. I hope he gets some wickets tomorrow.
express bowling Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 +ve signs are that our pace bowlers beat england's at lords. and even though they struggled today' date=' there were chances. They just didnt have the same potency. They will get better but its important to draft new bowlers in and show that there is competition. That will improve our pacer's hunger, i.e. shami.[/quote'] True. Healthy competition is the way to go if improvement has to be sustained. But potent bowlers cannot be dropped altogether like Umesh. I think we now have the biggest collection of test quality pacers in our history in our team now.
maniac Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 Didn't see the match today....good to know he is not an average 120-130k tundler....will watch how he does tommorrow So far so good but needs to pick up wickets to show all the experience he has gained over the years as our top domestic bowler. Hope his 140k speeds where not a one time to show he can deliver at internationals...hope he can consistently maintain the speeds.
King Tendulkar Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 BK,Ishant,Umesh,Shami,Pankaj,Aaron we should continue with these 6 bowlers in Tests.Rotate them give them enough matches.I'll go with these 6 in Australia. Unfortunately Ishwar misses out coz we've his bigger,taller,quicker & more experienced version in Pankaj. yep that should be the 6
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