BlueBee Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 This must be the best performance by an off spinner in Aus. Even Murli never did anything. Indians dug their own grave by bowling round the stumps and created huge rough for Lyon to exploit. They bowled 130 balls round the stumps to Warner alone in 1st innings. Worst part was that Lyon himself pointed out that Big Ishant has helped him by bowling round the wicket but you still bowl from Round the wicket in the 2nd innings. Just ridiculously brainless bowlers.
Proudindian Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 My team for next test: Dhawan Vijay Pujara Kohli Rahane Saha Ashwin Shami Ishant Aaron Umesh I feel as always we were one bowler light this match. Aaron and Umesh should be given a license to go for it with short and aggressive spells. Aaron looked dangerous second innings. Ashwin to play as a batsmen/all rounder. Best possible team IMO.
rkt.india Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 It's just that our spinner did not bowl even half well like Lyon and ended up with less than half the wickets Lyon got. Our main spinner was a leg spinner and there wasnt much turn for him from the stumps and expecting a debutant to take 5-10 wickets and win you the match is a bit too much that too away from home.
Austin 3:!6 Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 And whoever was saying, Karn Sharma can bat too :hysterical:
rajmarie Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Only 2 change from the 1st match. Dhoni for saha if fit and yadav for Rohit.
rkt.india Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 And whoever was saying' date=' Karn Sharma can bat too :hysterical:[/quote'] Yes, he can bat. Can bat doesn't mean he is a batsman or will score 100 in his debut game. Scored runs in warmup too. He eventually stayed not out in 2nd innings.
rajmarie Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Ashwin is mediocre too. Whoever doesn't play becomes great suddenly. :giggle: Exactly. Ashwin in team means one less bowler who can pick wicket. He struggles to pick wicket anywhere. Just because Lyon did good...we assume Ashwin will too. He can only play as 5th bowler if we select one
BlueBee Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Fact is, we don't have a quality off spinner ATM.
rajmarie Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Worst part was that Lyon himself pointed out that Big Ishant has helped him by bowling round the wicket but you still bowl from Round the wicket in the 2nd innings. Just ridiculously brainless bowlers. So now our bowlers should bowl as par opposition instruction. They did what they thought will work. Obviously they didn't stick to their plan...and bowl plenty of bad balls. Need to build pressure when things are not working out
Austin 3:!6 Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Yes' date=' he can bat. Can bat doesn't mean he is a batsman or will score 100 in his debut game. Scored runs in warmup too. He eventually stayed not out in 2nd innings.[/quote'] He seems like someone who is a typical no.10 batsman. Not saying he needs to score 100 but no where close to Ashwin/Bhuv as a batsman.
BlueBee Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 So now our bowlers should bowl as par opposition instruction. They did what they thought will work. Obviously they didn't stick to their plan...and bowl plenty of bad balls. Need to build pressure when things are not working out Why do something which didn't work in 1st innings at all? Also what are the support staff for ? Isn't it their responsibility to point out the mistakes their players are doing ? The commies in TV were all saying it was a wrong move which it was. It's not like play as par the opposition's instruction ..
Straight Drive Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Our main spinner was a leg spinner and there wasnt much turn for him from the stumps and expecting a debutant to take 5-10 wickets and win you the match is a bit too much that too away from home. All excuses to defend poor bowling. I will applaud him when he bowls well, but would say he bowled below par in this test. Not saying that Ashwin or Jaddu will bowl better, but just saying that karn bowled crap as well.
express bowling Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Ashwin is mediocre too. Whoever doesn't play becomes great suddenly. :giggle: Ashwin is useless as a spinner while bowling outside the subcontinent. He is no better and no worse than the other 2 spinners. But I want him in the team because he is a good batsman overseas. Gives you confidence and plays with a straight bat.
BlueBee Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 All excuses to defend poor bowling. I will applaud him when he bowls well' date=' but would say he bowled below par in this test.[/quote'] Yeah, bowled quite a lot of full tosses, short deliveries. I know Leg spin is a tough art, but still you should know how to bowl good line and length in Intl. cricket.
Straight Drive Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Yeah' date=' bowled quite a lot of full tosses, short deliveries. I know Leg spin is a tough art, but still you should know how to bowl good line and length in Intl. cricket.[/quote'] Still very young i guess, so has plenty of time to improve weak areas and make a good contribution on comeback.
rkt.india Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 All excuses to defend poor bowling. I will applaud him when he bowls well' date=' but would say he bowled below par in this test. Not saying that Ashwin or Jaddu will bowl better, but just saying that karn bowled crap as well.[/quote'] I didn't say he bowled great, but nothing worse than we have seen from rest of the two spinners.
Straight Drive Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 I didn't say he bowled great' date=' [b']but nothing worse than we have seen from rest of the two spinners. which i agree.
sensible-indian Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Exactly. Ashwin in team means one less bowler who can pick wicket. He struggles to pick wicket anywhere. Just because Lyon did good...we assume Ashwin will too. He can only play as 5th bowler if we select one Then how come he picked 3 wickets in the last Test innings in England? Spinners mature. Ashwin has the best chance in the Indian team to mature. If someone significantly better comes, then its ok to ditch him.
Marut Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Ashwin for Karn Umesh for Shami Dhoni for Saha Hey, but I want Kohli as captain. Not the worn out Dhoni. No other changes for the second test. More changes may be experimented after the outcome of the second test is known.
bowl_out Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Ashwin for Karn Umesh for Shami Dhoni for Saha Hey, but I want Kohli as captain. Not the worn out Dhoni. No other changes for the second test. More changes may be experimented after the outcome of the second test is known. Ashwin for Karn Umesh for Shami Dhoni for Saha This will happen.... but I want Kohli as captain. Not the worn out Dhoni. Unfortunately, this won't...
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