Khalpat Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 Err, what did you expect the government to do? At least give alternatives instead of spouting absolute garbage. Nuke them? We all saw what BJP did when out flight was hijacked, released some of the biggest terrorists ever. The fact is, once Pakistan had nuke, there is nothing we could do. Because of our proximity, we cannot afford a nuclear war and knowing Pakistan, they are dumb enough to use nuke if they start losing to us This is very negative post. I hope you do not have the same thinking in your work area, this thinking will hamper your proffesional growth. No wonder you are big fan of PM who said, "Paise koi pade pe thode hi na hote hain". Dost, there is a word challenge. Their might be some difficulties in dealing with this neighbour but for doing simple and usual things we do not elect government. If they are not able to win this challenge, they will be kicked out.
Raghav_12 Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 Irrespective to what was the real story I was laughing the way people giving credit to Narendra Modi for this already that he managed to stop a 26/11 attack. 1. So UPA govt didn't stop such attacks for 6 years post 26/11? 2. If Pakistan didn't dare to attack for these six years, then how come Pakistan is daring within 6 months of Modi coming in power. I had heard during campaign ki Pakistan ki himmat hi nahin hogi? 3. If Pakistan dared in those 6 years as well which was stopped by coast guard or UPA govt as per logic of bhakts, then UPA govt did better job than this govt, which they didn't take credit also. In either case UPA did better job than current one. Isn't it? In reality, Kudos to Coast Guards and Defense Forces. Modi's big talk (56 inches??) has nothing to do with what they do.
surajmal Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 Apparently, one other boat was warned and it turned back to paki shores after the first one came under CG chase. Looking at the sickulars' responses, they all seem to be wishing for another massive terror attack on India soil, so that they can do same same with Congi/BJP.
asterix Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 Apparently' date=' one other boat was warned and it turned back to paki shores after the first one came under CG chase. Looking at the sickulars' responses, they all seem to be wishing for another massive terror attack on India soil, so that they can do same same with Congi/BJP.[/quote'] Seculars only hope remains on Pakistan to do something now so that they can get back at Modi/BJP.... They've tried everything else but not working...
Dark Warrior Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 Irrespective to what was the real story I was laughing the way people giving credit to Narendra Modi for this already that he managed to stop a 26/11 attack. 1. So UPA govt didn't stop such attacks for 6 years post 26/11? 2. If Pakistan didn't dare to attack for these six years, then how come Pakistan is daring within 6 months of Modi coming in power. I had heard during campaign ki Pakistan ki himmat hi nahin hogi? 3. If Pakistan dared in those 6 years as well which was stopped by coast guard or UPA govt as per logic of bhakts, then UPA govt did better job than this govt, which they didn't take credit also. In either case UPA did better job than current one. Isn't it? In reality, Kudos to Coast Guards and Defense Forces. Modi's big talk (56 inches??) has nothing to do with what they do. Who are these "people"? And how come it's only you who always come across these people! :/
EnterTheVoid Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 Irrespective to what was the real story I was laughing the way people giving credit to Narendra Modi for this already that he managed to stop a 26/11 attack. 1. So UPA govt didn't stop such attacks for 6 years post 26/11? 2. If Pakistan didn't dare to attack for these six years, then how come Pakistan is daring within 6 months of Modi coming in power. I had heard during campaign ki Pakistan ki himmat hi nahin hogi? 3. If Pakistan dared in those 6 years as well which was stopped by coast guard or UPA govt as per logic of bhakts, then UPA govt did better job than this govt, which they didn't take credit also. In either case UPA did better job than current one. Isn't it? In reality, Kudos to Coast Guards and Defense Forces. Modi's big talk (56 inches??) has nothing to do with what they do. Yeah, they sure did. Managed to allow ten odd kids come from Pakistan by boat and hold a city of 21 million hostage for 72 hours. Good job UPA, we are proud of you.
Raghav_12 Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 Yeah, they sure did. Managed to allow ten odd kids come from Pakistan by boat and hold a city of 21 million hostage for 72 hours. Good job UPA, we are proud of you. and you credit Parliament attack, Kargil incursion to Vajpayeeji, who has been given Bharat Ratna by this govt? Ain't you proud of VajpayeeJi?
seedhi Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 and you credit Parliament attack' date=' Kargil incursion to Vajpayeeji, who has been given Bharat Ratna by this govt? Ain't you proud of VajpayeeJi?[/quote']Vajpayee of course bears the burden for these attacks. As far as Bharat Ratna, given the previous awardees, Vajpayee is no less deserving.
Raghav_12 Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 Vajpayee of course bears the burden for these attacks. As far as Bharat Ratna' date=' given the previous awardees, Vajpayee is no less deserving.[/quote'] For me Vajpayee ji fully deserved Bharat Ratna and definitely was much better than some of previous recipients. I was just attacking the logic of the post. Performance of security agencies depend on multiple factors and govt taking credit for their performance is very unfortunate trend.
asterix Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 For me Vajpayee ji fully deserved Bharat Ratna and definitely was much better than some of previous recipients. I was just attacking the logic of the post. Performance of security agencies depend on multiple factors and govt taking credit for their performance is very unfortunate trend. Why? If the Govt. backs the actions of security agencies and takes credit, what's the harm. I recently heard in a TV Talk about the new found confidence in Armed forces defending the borders as they've been given free hand to counter attack. The previous UPA govt. had tied their hands at the back. Security lapses happen and it's a continuous process to remain a step ahead against the enemy...
FischerTal Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 It takes a special kind of brainwashing to write the way sickulars do. Lage raho
Raghav_12 Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 Why? If the Govt. backs the actions of security agencies and takes credit, what's the harm. I recently heard in a TV Talk about the new found confidence in Armed forces defending the borders as they've been given free hand to counter attack. The previous UPA govt. had tied their hands at the back. Security lapses happen and it's a continuous process to remain a step ahead against the enemy... so tell me this thing. Post 26/11 for next 6 years, UPA was in govt. Did Pakistan terrorist not dare to come through sea route in next 6 years? if yes, then UPA govt should have patted themselves o their back like Modi does? If no, then why terrorists are daring now, within 6 months of Modi coming to power, which they didn't in 6 years of UPA govt. If you try to answer this honestly, you would realize just by claiming 56 inches and by telling that opposition is Pakistan agent, you don't become bigger patriot. You just sound a bellicose.
asterix Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 so tell me this thing. Post 26/11 for next 6 years, UPA was in govt. Did Pakistan terrorist not dare to come through sea route in next 6 years? if yes, then UPA govt should have patted themselves o their back like Modi does? If no, then why terrorists are daring now, within 6 months of Modi coming to power, which they didn't in 6 years of UPA govt. If you try to answer this honestly, you would realize just by claiming 56 inches and by telling that opposition is Pakistan agent, you don't become bigger patriot. You just sound a bellicose. If I remember in the "6" years, there was never a big attack in Pakistan like the Peshawar school attack. Now that attack has happened and the Soak Army is trying its best to make a spectacular attack. In those "6" years, no US President didn't came to attend the Republic Day parade as chief guest... But for you are these changed situation doesn't matter... For you every thing is same. The security agencies has been doing a creditable job throughout and hatsoff to them but sooty, I cannot give any credit to UPA because of their attitude towards Armed forces and security agencies... I mean just to target Modi they put IB against CBI etc.., you know all these, don't you?
EnterTheVoid Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 Raghav, your entire logic is a joke. The fact that the UPA government were caught napping when 26/11 happened under their watch is an unforgivable sin. The fact that they haven't ****ed up in the same manner since 26/11 is not something you should take pride in. They are incompetent but not as incompetent as before. According to you, that is something we should take closure in.
Raghav_12 Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 Raghav, your entire logic is a joke. The fact that the UPA government were caught napping when 26/11 happened under their watch is an unforgivable sin. The fact that they haven't ****ed up in the same manner since 26/11 is not something you should take pride in. They are incompetent but not as incompetent as before. According to you, that is something we should take closure in. My issue is politicization of these issues by this government which is very unfortunate. All Modi and his croonies kept telling for years, once they are in power because of their strong postures Pakistan wouldn't dare to do such things. But in reality it is happening just otherwise. There are more attacks on border and now as per their claims only there was attempt through sea route as well which they didn't dare in six years. All Modi seems to trying to do is create a huge fear of Pakistan which only HE can deal with not any lesser mortal and this fear would allow him to control masses. It is given, if Pakistan dares to go to war with India it will be defeated badly irrespective of who is PM of India. Success of political establishment has to be judged by the fact how minimal damage happens to India not by how maximum damage we caused to Pakistan.
Raghav_12 Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 If I remember in the "6" years, there was never a big attack in Pakistan like the Peshawar school attack. Now that attack has happened and the Soak Army is trying its best to make a spectacular attack. In those "6" years, no US President didn't came to attend the Republic Day parade as chief guest... But for you are these changed situation doesn't matter... For you every thing is same. The security agencies has been doing a creditable job throughout and hatsoff to them but sooty, I cannot give any credit to UPA because of their attitude towards Armed forces and security agencies... I mean just to target Modi they put IB against CBI etc.., you know all these, don't you? As expected you skirted around the main question. We need not to succumb to fear mongering being done by Modi and company. There were 30 people killed including top leaders of Congress in attack in Chattishgarh last year. 70-80 people killed by militants in Assam. There are many problems which are causing lot of damage to country which need to be addressed on priority.
EnterTheVoid Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 My issue is politicization of these issues by this government which is very unfortunate. All Modi and his croonies kept telling for years' date= once they are in power because of their strong postures Pakistan wouldn't dare to do such things. But in reality it is happening just otherwise. There are more attacks on border and now as per their claims only there was attempt through sea route as well which they didn't dare in six years. All Modi seems to trying to do is create a huge fear of Pakistan which only HE can deal with not any lesser mortal and this fear would allow him to control masses. It is given, if Pakistan dares to go to war with India it will be defeated badly irrespective of who is PM of India. Success of political establishment has to be judged by the fact how minimal damage happens to India not by how maximum damage we caused to Pakistan. Pakistan is being Pakistan - They are going to keep attacking India irrespective of who is in power. They are not going to stop just because Modi got elected as PM. Having said that, I have faith in the Modi government to take more assertive action than say, the MMS government of past.
someone Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 It's getting a very desperate from the haters. Soon they will blame for Modi for rising temperatures. There are many things which are not in control of the government such as global warming, disasters. Next, with USA forces leaving Afgan plus increasing radicalization of Muslims, the threat level for us is only gonna rise irrespective of which party is our government. What is in our governments hands is the response. And they certainly are trying to handle it well and professional. This case is one example of good coordination between our security agencies and NSA plays a big part there. The Kashmir flood is another such example where our government was praised for its relief efforts. Or now are the haters gonna twist it by saying Modi being in power as the reason for the natural disaster otherwise wouldn't have happened?
diga Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 even congress speaking the same language in questioning the intent behind the blow up of the fishing boat.. Isnt the Opposition leader part of intelligence briefings? ps: Did the media release on this come from coast gaurd or from the govt?
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