bowl_out Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Full support for this Andolan 1. Have a Bowling PP where the field can be spread with all fielders outside the circle if needed 2. No bouncer limit 3. Get back 5 fielders outside circle. PP can still have 2 fielders outside (like in 90s) 4. Remove joke grounds like NZ. Have regulations on boundary size 5. Remove 2 ball per innings rule. Save spinners and reverse swing Free Hits are fine... They are fun, and last only 1 ball
BlueBee Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Remove the ****ing field restrictions. Two new ball rule.
StriKe Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Remove -2 New ball -Batting power play in 35th over
Sooda Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Yeah it is hard to take these crazy scores seriously. No coincidence that the best match was a low scoring one in NZ v Aus... Remove tthe two new ball rule yes, also Go back to 5 fielders outside the circle in Non PP overs, and do not allow bat sizes to evolve any further
profster Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 I disagree. Lack of good pitches is the main problem not the rules per se. Keep the rules, get rid of chuckers and let bowling evolve. Reverse swing can still be a weapon in the tests.
Sooda Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 I disagree. Lack of good pitches is the main problem not the rules per se. Keep the rules' date= get rid of chuckers and let bowling evolve. Reverse swing can still be a weapon in the tests. The problem is probably that the rules are not allowing bowlers to evolve
profster Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 The problem is probably that the rules are not allowing bowlers to evolve Test wins are bowling shootouts. T20s are batting shootouts. ODIs ideally should offer the best of both worlds. For me, the new rules forced teams to include 5 specialist bowlers or 2 decent all-rounders. Just like T20 batting innovations are creeping into ODIs, we are seeing test bowling tactics employed as teams are looking for regular wickets. Tinkering of rules will not reduce big scores that result more from batting pitches (roads) and bad bowling. The combination of big edges on bats, small grounds, two new balls, and fielding restrictions are acerbating the underlying problem but are not the root cause. We got 70 wickets in 7 matches under the new rules.
THX_1138 Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 I want 12 overs for 2 bowlers allowance. I know it does not chamge big pcuture but watch how well it works. It will give captain to use their pacer and best bowler 3 times of 4 over spell etc All that will do is that instead of four genuine bowlers, teams will play with three genuine bowlers and packing the team with an assortment of mindless sloggers.
vijay50 Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 remove the 2 new ball rule. let there be reverse swing. i dont mind the noball rule, big bats, small stadiums... but the pitch has to have some bounce for pacers or some turn for the spinners I think they changed the new ball rule, because it was difficult to grip/field the old ball under dew in subcontinent conditions and also the ball goes out of shape under dew in s.c after 35 overs. Exaggerated reverse swing under lights obtained for old ball under lights which makes the team winning toss , winning match (e.g: premadasa).ICC want to remove this imbalance.
vijay50 Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 http://m.sports.ndtv.com/cricket/news/215615-bcci-set-to-oppose-rule-of-using-two-new-balls-in-odis In spite of being in big 3, Aus , Eng, Nz always vote together and want to control the game.My question is if 3-members opposed the rule compared to 3, why did the ICC still approved this.
bowl_out Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 :protest: *Bowlers cannot change arm when bowling.. Batsman can reverse sweep, over sweep, switch hit... Totally agree... This should be allowed if the bowler has the skill... Even bowling around or over the wickets is a bowler's prerogative... Shouldn't be pre-announced * Batsmen donot have a ball per innings restrictions, so why should a bowler have a 10 over restriction? Don't think ICC can do much about this... It is probably to limit the number of batsmen in the team... Else a team can have 3 bowlers bowling 50 overs and 8 batsmen... I know the bowlers will tire out and it can be argued that if a team believe it can do it, they should be allowed. Still, it somehow doesn't make sense..
adi B Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 If the ground dimensions are less than 70m make a sporting pitch either assisting turn and bounce or aiding the fast bowlers by putting a good amount of grass just to ensure the competition between bat and ball is even and it doesn't turn into a runfest
BeautifulGame Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Remove the 4 fielders restrictions .Lot of issues will be solved. These death overs r becoming a joke becoz of this restriction
moniker Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 I disagree. Lack of good pitches is the main problem not the rules per se. Keep the rules' date=' get rid of chuckers and let bowling evolve. Reverse swing can still be a weapon in the tests.[/quote'] ++ The rules regarding field restrictions and two new balls would actually play into the hands of the bowlers if the pitch aids lateral movement. Who in their right minds would want to set spread out, defensive fields if the ball is swinging? It would make for a good spectacle as well, won't be like the bore fests that we're forced to watch nowadays. And if the pitch offers bounce that'll aid both pacers and spinners. It's a pity about the reverse swing though, but given the reasons behind the two new balls rule it's understandable.
mishra Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 :hmmm: Is there difference between white ball and red ball? why not use red ball or copy of it as white ball.
BeautifulGame Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 :hmmm: Is there difference between white ball and red ball? why not use red ball or copy of it as white ball. Red ball is really hard to pick under floodlights.Hence not used in ODIs
mishra Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Red ball is really hard to pick under floodlights.Hence not used in ODIs I get a feeling that red ball behaves differently over its course? Thats why posing this question.
Cricketics Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 All that will do is that instead of four genuine bowlers' date=' teams will play with three genuine bowlers and packing the team with an assortment of mindless sloggers.[/quote'] That is definitely a good debate to have and you do put up a good point. Some teams might go defensive as you meant and might just play more bats, but also there might be too m uch load on the bowler. Still I feel after all of that, It's good to have an option of one or two guys having a quota of 12 overs.
mishra Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 ^we play cricket by a rule that if a batsman scores 25 runs he retires. and can come back again at the end. Try similar stuff in odi. Batsman must retire once he reaches 100 and can come back again as last batter or after fall of atleast 3-5 wickets
Cricketics Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 ^we play cricket by a rule that if a batsman scores 25 runs he retires. and can come back again at the end. Try similar stuff in odi. Batsman must retire once he reaches 100 and can come back again as last batter or after fall of atleast 3-5 wickets Na. That should be just left to warm up games. International cricket means, you are playing for your country to give your best. Until you get out or you are injured, you shouldn't retire. Imagine in a crucial chase of 300 runs, some opener having to retire after scoring hundred and as soon as after he retires, his team has a collapse and the score from 190-2 has become 235-8. Why should opposition benefit in that way.
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