mishra Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 All the more reasons for separation than. Is this your reason? There are thousands if not millions of pockets in India which has non Hindus in majority. Same can be said about any nation. Unlike Islamic republic of Pakistan its called Republic of India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swatpulla Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 As a secularist you should not be offended India is not a hindu country' date=' A secular one right?[/quote'] Don't know you are dumb or just pretending. Judging by your country, I won't be surprised if former is the case. Secularism means to respect every religion equally, but sadly, these idiots have decided to attack Hindus, because apparently, their hatred stems from Islam's "Us Vs Them" preaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panther Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Is this your reason? There are thousands if not millions of pockets in India which has non Hindus in majority. Same can be said about any nation. Unlike Islamic republic of Pakistan its called Republic of India. If there is constant resistance to Indian rule as is evident in Kashmir than they should be separated at least the Muslim areas. After Kashmir, kerela and west Bengal will ask for separation and India will go back to being what it always was a number of states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 If there is constant resistance to Indian rule as is evident in Kashmir than they should be separated at least the Muslim areas. After Kashmir, kerela and west Bengal will ask for separation and India will go back to being what it always was a number of states. 4 million, Thats the population of Kashmir. About 80% of them voted in last election i.e. faith in Indian Democracy. Now assuming all of them 20% of 4 million 750K people have strong feeling about separatist view. Reality is that 4 million is too less of a voice in Indian context of 1.2 billion population, you think 750K separatist view will get aany attention. There are probably more than 750K Shia Muslims in Pakistan who want a separate state for themslves. Do you honour them with their demand? And that is quite a big percentage compared to Pakistani population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shivaji bhonsle Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 If there is constant resistance to Indian rule as is evident in Kashmir than they should be separated at least the Muslim areas. After Kashmir, kerela and west Bengal will ask for separation and India will go back to being what it always was a number of states. Won't happen. We will kill em all just like we killed Kashmiri separatists. No problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panther Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 4 million, Thats the population of Kashmir. About 80% of them voted in last election i.e. faith in Indian Democracy. Now assuming all of them 20% of 4 million 750K people have strong feeling about separatist view. Reality is that 4 million is too less of a voice in Indian context of 1.2 billion population, you think 750K separatist view will get aany attention. There are probably more than 750K Shia Muslims in Pakistan who want a separate state for themslves. Do you honour them with their demand? And that is quite a big percentage compared to Pakistani population. who did they vote for is the more important question. And the voter turnout was pathetic in the muslim majority areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panther Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Won't happen. We will kill em all just like we killed Kashmiri separatists. No problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... gs Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 WTF is that man :((? Seriously disgusting' date=' **** those people behind this.[/quote'] Seriously sick and demented! This cult appears to have zero humanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Kalia_Test Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Just like you though Pakistan would never be created' date=' or sudan would never split into 2, [b']Bangladesh would be created or the ussr would never break up The bolded is a slap on the idea of Pakistan actually - it was supposed to be a nation for SC muslims but the idea did not survive 24 yrs ( or even in 1947 itself where millions of muslims decided they are better off in India) BTW, India is a Union of States ( called Union of India) whereas Pakistan is a Federation ( like US ). In Union, the Centre prevails and there is no right of secession for any State. Not sure of Pakistan but if it is truly Federal, a 'Province' can secede from a Federation under certain circumstances. Get ready for independent Balochistan :winky: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... panther Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 The bolded is a slap on the idea of Pakistan actually - it was supposed to be a nation for SC muslims but the idea did not survive 24 yrs ( or even in 1947 itself where millions of muslims decided they are better off in India) BTW, India is a Union of States ( called Union of India) whereas Pakistan is a Federation ( like US ). In Union, the Centre prevails and there is no right of secession for any State. Not sure of Pakistan but if it is truly Federal, a 'Province' can secede from a Federation under certain circumstances. Get ready for independent Balochistan :winky: I couldn't care less that Bangladesh split or if tomorrow Baluchistan splits, these are changing realities and Far more powerful and greater states have split in the past all the more reason for India which except for a small period of time has never been united should stay united 50 years from now, this is my opinion and we shall see how it pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Kalia_Test Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I couldn't care less that Bangladesh split or if tomorrow Baluchistan splits' date=' these are changing realities and Far more powerful and greater states have split in the past all the more reason for [b']India which except for a small period of time has never been united should stay united 50 years from now, this is my opinion and we shall see how it pans out. Max I can see is India moving from Union to Federation i.e little more powers to States. There is simply no way any current Indian State ( leaving fringe NE states provided they are integrated to China - fat chance) can survive independently. This is due to its geography, river structure, cultural similarities,etc. Balochistan can easily survive independently ( due to its natural resources ) - in any case - current Pak federal Govt is only capable of making its people 'missing'. With India's support, it will have good relations with Iran and hence India, Iran, independent Balochistan can all have mutual benefit. On bolded, look at the other way too - European nations have a history of war and bloodshed among them - as recently as WW2 . Now, we have European Union - a Confederation. Works both ways my friend :two_thumbs_up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... aceofbase Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 cwwDr9ikkfo not sure if this video has been watched before...but this should answer some of the pakis who are hoping India would split... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Shivaji bhonsle Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Just like you though Pakistan would never be created' date=' or sudan would never split into 2, Bangladesh would be created or the ussr would never break up[/quote'] Before creating such countries, we would kill them in millions. Enough for me. Lol. On a serious note, I understand Islam is a strong driving force if they want to go separate. But, the idea of India is a even stronger force to counter it. Its hard for Hindus to die in the name of religion because Hindus are never serious about their religion. But, just like Chaptrapathi Shivaji, this country can be mobilized in the name of country and it will absolutely crush the Islamic fundamentalism and separatist ideas. Hindus, Sikhs, Christians , patriotic Muslims will unite in the name of India and fight against separatists. Before achieving freedom, that place will become a grave yard. If they have guts to try it, let them try and see the results for yourself. Ha... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Austin 3:!6 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Moment I see this picture I reminded of PETA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... dial_100 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 All the more reasons for separation than. Yep. I agree. They can go and $*** of to any other place... they aint getting anything from here.. {finger} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... panther Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Before creating such countries, we would kill them in millions. Enough for me. Lol. On a serious note, I understand Islam is a strong driving force if they want to go separate. But, the idea of India is a even stronger force to counter it. Its hard for Hindus to die in the name of religion because Hindus are never serious about their religion. But, just like Chaptrapathi Shivaji, this country can be mobilized in the name of country and it will absolutely crush the Islamic fundamentalism and separatist ideas. Hindus, Sikhs, Christians , patriotic Muslims will unite in the name of India and fight against separatists. Before achieving freedom, that place will become a grave yard. If they have guts to try it, let them try and see the results for yourself. Ha... That's understandable no country was created without the blood of those who strive for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... diga Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Land is a finate resource. Because of utter lack strategic thinking india lost link to central asia when pok went' date=' we should not do it again. We ocxupy the heights and can not let it go. If some fringe pak elements are causing trouble in jk they will be liquidated.[/quote'] this is big news... Mr. Vijay, a Rajya Sabha MP from Uttarakhand, wrote to Mr. Parrikar on July 15, suggesting that land be allocated to Army personnel on a “90-year lease” in Jammu and Kashmir. Confirming this to The Hindu , Mr. Vijay said Mr. Parrikar had endorsed the idea and forwarded the letter to the J&K government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Shivaji bhonsle Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 That's understandable no country was created without the blood of those who strive for it. As I said, you can create a separate Islamic country, but millions of Muslims will die. Are you okay with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Texan Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Curfew imposed after protests over burning of IS flag in Rajouri Army was called out and curfew imposed in Rajouri town on Tuesday afternoon as tension escalated following pitched battles between Muslim youth and policemen at various places over the burning of an ISIS flag having handwritten Kalima Tayyaba on it by some Vishwa Hindu Parishad and Bajrang Dal activists. Confirming imposition of curfew in the town, Rajouri Deputy Commissioner, Deepti Uppal, told The Indian Express that the Army has been asked to carry out flag march. The situation is now getting under control, she added. This followed after violence spread to various parts of the town with groups of youth pelting stones on police who had earlier resorted to lathicharge at Gujjar Mandi Chowk in order to disperse them. The violence forced Hindus also to close their establishments which were open in the morning. There was already tension mounting in the town with Muslims objecting to the writing of Kalima Tayyaba with a chalk on a ISIS flag made of a black piece of paper and later its burning by some people in the town on Eid. The VHP, on the other hand, denied any intention to hurt sentiments of Muslim community. The Muslim leaders had given time till Monday evening for arresting the accused, saying that they will otherwise observe bandh in entire border district. In view of the bandh call, the Muslim youth had started assembling at different places and raising blockades by burning tyres. The shops and other business establishments owned by them in the town too were closed. The vehicular traffic too had remained off the road in view of mounting tension. To defuse tension, the local administration on Tuesday morning arranged a meeting of elders from both Hindu and Muslim communities at Government Dak Bunglow. Both sides after discussion between them agreed to defuse the situation by carrying out a joint peace march in the town. When, however, they reached Abdullah bridge, they were confronted by local Muslim youth who refused to call off their demonstration unless police arrested those burning the ISIS flag. They started raising slogans and held a sit-in on the bridge forcing elders from their community to withdraw from the peace march. To disperse the protestors, as police resorted to lathicharge at Abdullah bridge, violence spread to various parts of the town. As the news about police lathicharge spread , more and more people from outskirts of the town also started joining the protestors making it difficult for local police to control situation. Sensing trouble in the town, which had been witness to communal clashes at the slightest provocation in the past, Deputy Commissioner imposed curfew and called Army for help. Last time, communal clashes had erupted in the town following hate speech by VHP leader Praveen Togadia in 2013. Thereafter, his entry into the state remained banned until March this year when BJP had come to power in coalition with PDP. See more at: http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/jk-army-was-called-out-in-rajouri-town-after-violence-over-isis-flag/#sthash.u53nr1sZ.dpuf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Shivaji bhonsle Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 ^^. Mate. Believe me. This is good for us. Should they take up arms like ISIS, it will give a free hand to Army which is not showing its real capability in Kashmir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 4 of 5 Share More sharing options... Followers 0
gs Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 WTF is that man :((? Seriously disgusting' date=' **** those people behind this.[/quote'] Seriously sick and demented! This cult appears to have zero humanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalia_Test Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Just like you though Pakistan would never be created' date=' or sudan would never split into 2, [b']Bangladesh would be created or the ussr would never break up The bolded is a slap on the idea of Pakistan actually - it was supposed to be a nation for SC muslims but the idea did not survive 24 yrs ( or even in 1947 itself where millions of muslims decided they are better off in India) BTW, India is a Union of States ( called Union of India) whereas Pakistan is a Federation ( like US ). In Union, the Centre prevails and there is no right of secession for any State. Not sure of Pakistan but if it is truly Federal, a 'Province' can secede from a Federation under certain circumstances. Get ready for independent Balochistan :winky: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panther Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 The bolded is a slap on the idea of Pakistan actually - it was supposed to be a nation for SC muslims but the idea did not survive 24 yrs ( or even in 1947 itself where millions of muslims decided they are better off in India) BTW, India is a Union of States ( called Union of India) whereas Pakistan is a Federation ( like US ). In Union, the Centre prevails and there is no right of secession for any State. Not sure of Pakistan but if it is truly Federal, a 'Province' can secede from a Federation under certain circumstances. Get ready for independent Balochistan :winky: I couldn't care less that Bangladesh split or if tomorrow Baluchistan splits, these are changing realities and Far more powerful and greater states have split in the past all the more reason for India which except for a small period of time has never been united should stay united 50 years from now, this is my opinion and we shall see how it pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalia_Test Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I couldn't care less that Bangladesh split or if tomorrow Baluchistan splits' date=' these are changing realities and Far more powerful and greater states have split in the past all the more reason for [b']India which except for a small period of time has never been united should stay united 50 years from now, this is my opinion and we shall see how it pans out. Max I can see is India moving from Union to Federation i.e little more powers to States. There is simply no way any current Indian State ( leaving fringe NE states provided they are integrated to China - fat chance) can survive independently. This is due to its geography, river structure, cultural similarities,etc. Balochistan can easily survive independently ( due to its natural resources ) - in any case - current Pak federal Govt is only capable of making its people 'missing'. With India's support, it will have good relations with Iran and hence India, Iran, independent Balochistan can all have mutual benefit. On bolded, look at the other way too - European nations have a history of war and bloodshed among them - as recently as WW2 . Now, we have European Union - a Confederation. Works both ways my friend :two_thumbs_up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceofbase Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 cwwDr9ikkfo not sure if this video has been watched before...but this should answer some of the pakis who are hoping India would split... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shivaji bhonsle Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Just like you though Pakistan would never be created' date=' or sudan would never split into 2, Bangladesh would be created or the ussr would never break up[/quote'] Before creating such countries, we would kill them in millions. Enough for me. Lol. On a serious note, I understand Islam is a strong driving force if they want to go separate. But, the idea of India is a even stronger force to counter it. Its hard for Hindus to die in the name of religion because Hindus are never serious about their religion. But, just like Chaptrapathi Shivaji, this country can be mobilized in the name of country and it will absolutely crush the Islamic fundamentalism and separatist ideas. Hindus, Sikhs, Christians , patriotic Muslims will unite in the name of India and fight against separatists. Before achieving freedom, that place will become a grave yard. If they have guts to try it, let them try and see the results for yourself. Ha... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin 3:!6 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Moment I see this picture I reminded of PETA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 All the more reasons for separation than. Yep. I agree. They can go and $*** of to any other place... they aint getting anything from here.. {finger} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panther Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Before creating such countries, we would kill them in millions. Enough for me. Lol. On a serious note, I understand Islam is a strong driving force if they want to go separate. But, the idea of India is a even stronger force to counter it. Its hard for Hindus to die in the name of religion because Hindus are never serious about their religion. But, just like Chaptrapathi Shivaji, this country can be mobilized in the name of country and it will absolutely crush the Islamic fundamentalism and separatist ideas. Hindus, Sikhs, Christians , patriotic Muslims will unite in the name of India and fight against separatists. Before achieving freedom, that place will become a grave yard. If they have guts to try it, let them try and see the results for yourself. Ha... That's understandable no country was created without the blood of those who strive for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Land is a finate resource. Because of utter lack strategic thinking india lost link to central asia when pok went' date=' we should not do it again. We ocxupy the heights and can not let it go. If some fringe pak elements are causing trouble in jk they will be liquidated.[/quote'] this is big news... Mr. Vijay, a Rajya Sabha MP from Uttarakhand, wrote to Mr. Parrikar on July 15, suggesting that land be allocated to Army personnel on a “90-year lease” in Jammu and Kashmir. Confirming this to The Hindu , Mr. Vijay said Mr. Parrikar had endorsed the idea and forwarded the letter to the J&K government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shivaji bhonsle Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 That's understandable no country was created without the blood of those who strive for it. As I said, you can create a separate Islamic country, but millions of Muslims will die. Are you okay with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Curfew imposed after protests over burning of IS flag in Rajouri Army was called out and curfew imposed in Rajouri town on Tuesday afternoon as tension escalated following pitched battles between Muslim youth and policemen at various places over the burning of an ISIS flag having handwritten Kalima Tayyaba on it by some Vishwa Hindu Parishad and Bajrang Dal activists. Confirming imposition of curfew in the town, Rajouri Deputy Commissioner, Deepti Uppal, told The Indian Express that the Army has been asked to carry out flag march. The situation is now getting under control, she added. This followed after violence spread to various parts of the town with groups of youth pelting stones on police who had earlier resorted to lathicharge at Gujjar Mandi Chowk in order to disperse them. The violence forced Hindus also to close their establishments which were open in the morning. There was already tension mounting in the town with Muslims objecting to the writing of Kalima Tayyaba with a chalk on a ISIS flag made of a black piece of paper and later its burning by some people in the town on Eid. The VHP, on the other hand, denied any intention to hurt sentiments of Muslim community. The Muslim leaders had given time till Monday evening for arresting the accused, saying that they will otherwise observe bandh in entire border district. In view of the bandh call, the Muslim youth had started assembling at different places and raising blockades by burning tyres. The shops and other business establishments owned by them in the town too were closed. The vehicular traffic too had remained off the road in view of mounting tension. To defuse tension, the local administration on Tuesday morning arranged a meeting of elders from both Hindu and Muslim communities at Government Dak Bunglow. Both sides after discussion between them agreed to defuse the situation by carrying out a joint peace march in the town. When, however, they reached Abdullah bridge, they were confronted by local Muslim youth who refused to call off their demonstration unless police arrested those burning the ISIS flag. They started raising slogans and held a sit-in on the bridge forcing elders from their community to withdraw from the peace march. To disperse the protestors, as police resorted to lathicharge at Abdullah bridge, violence spread to various parts of the town. As the news about police lathicharge spread , more and more people from outskirts of the town also started joining the protestors making it difficult for local police to control situation. Sensing trouble in the town, which had been witness to communal clashes at the slightest provocation in the past, Deputy Commissioner imposed curfew and called Army for help. Last time, communal clashes had erupted in the town following hate speech by VHP leader Praveen Togadia in 2013. Thereafter, his entry into the state remained banned until March this year when BJP had come to power in coalition with PDP. See more at: http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/jk-army-was-called-out-in-rajouri-town-after-violence-over-isis-flag/#sthash.u53nr1sZ.dpuf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shivaji bhonsle Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 ^^. Mate. Believe me. This is good for us. Should they take up arms like ISIS, it will give a free hand to Army which is not showing its real capability in Kashmir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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