Ishan kishan, Captain , Under19 World Cup.A.Jaffer selected

[nsareen]

Virat Singh I wasnt impressed but Himanshu is as impressive as you find at his age. You dont score a Ranji trophy 100 at  Lahli without being good. Jaffer wasnt really impressive in Challengers. Himanshu scored runs in warmups and Sri Lanka series while opening the batting. Also, Virat Singh had the best average among batsmen in the triseries.

Virat simply doesn't have the X factor in him, Himanshu is a good batsmen but he did not set the safe on fire, they had to eliminate somebody to make place for Jaffer simply because of his performance moreover there was nobody selected from MUMBAI SQUAD, that doesn't happen in Indian cricket, lots of questions will be asked why no mumbaikar in Indian team when the team is beating everyone black & blue. There are others too like Usmani / Mulani the all rounder and then Jaffer topping all of them, he simply had to be selected!!

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[sandeep]

too much Mumbai hate on this thread, purely on speculation.  Scorecard browsers claiming to know more about either player's abilities rather than selectors.

 I'm not supporting naivete to the extent of denying the possibility of influence in selection.  But some of these posts sound a lot like our cross-border brethren in terms of stating personal opinions and suspicions of conspiracy as fact.  

[MCcricket]

Lol, we R doubting the selection of A Jaffer who score three consecutive double century n a 174, something is wrong if people think he was selected , it should rather be why the hell was a prodigy like him not selected prior ever

 

 

[rkt.india]

Lol, we R doubting the selection of A Jaffer who score three consecutive double century n a 174, something is wrong if people think he was selected , it should rather be why the hell was a prodigy like him not selected prior ever

 

So has other batsman who is dropped for him Himanshu Rana who has 100s in Ranji trophy. Arman Jaffer flopped in the tournament that mattered for selection of U19 probables. If you had to select him for U19 WC, you should have given him chance in the two tri-series they played, but he could not make the cut for the triseries because he didnt do well.

 

[rkt.india]

 

Virat simply doesn't have the X factor in him, Himanshu is a good batsmen but he did not set the safe on fire, they had to eliminate somebody to make place for Jaffer simply because of his performance moreover there was nobody selected from MUMBAI SQUAD, that doesn't happen in Indian cricket, lots of questions will be asked why no mumbaikar in Indian team when the team is beating everyone black & blue. There are others too like Usmani / Mulani the all rounder and then Jaffer topping all of them, he simply had to be selected!!

 

 

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so, do you want to say he is selected because of quota. Regarding x-factor, even Jaffer doesnt have that x-factor. He too is a slow batsman like Virat Singh.

[rkt.india]

too much Mumbai hate on this thread, purely on speculation.  Scorecard browsers claiming to know more about either player's abilities rather than selectors.

 I'm not supporting naivete to the extent of denying the possibility of influence in selection.  But some of these posts sound a lot like our cross-border brethren in terms of stating personal opinions and suspicions of conspiracy as fact.  

There is no Mumbai hate, but selection should be on merit. A guy who failed to impress in the selection tournament, wasnt even in probables because of performance, suddenly finds a place in the side. A guy who did well is out.

[nsareen]

so, do you want to say he is selected because of quota. Regarding x-factor, even Jaffer doesnt have that x-factor. He too is a slow batsman like Virat Singh.

You probably are not following Cooch behar to be saying this. Let's not argue over Armaan Jaffer being selected, the fact is he is a classy player and touted as a Prodigy by people in cricketing circles, so let's respect that.

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so, do you want to say he is selected because of quota. Regarding x-factor, even Jaffer doesnt have that x-factor. He too is a slow batsman like Virat Singh.

You probably are not following Cooch behar to be saying this. Let's not argue over Armaan Jaffer being selected, the fact is he is a classy player and touted as a Prodigy by people in cricketing circles, so let's respect that.

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[nsareen]

There is no Mumbai hate, but selection should be on merit. A guy who failed to impress in the selection tournament, wasnt even in probables because of performance, suddenly finds a place in the side. A guy who did well is out.

Easy for you to say that, he played well in the zonal tournaments, challengers should not be the only criteria, a bunch of matches doesn't reflect the real picture, you need to see his consistency in the long term, in that aspect he is a good pick.

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There is no Mumbai hate, but selection should be on merit. A guy who failed to impress in the selection tournament, wasnt even in probables because of performance, suddenly finds a place in the side. A guy who did well is out.

Easy for you to say that, he played well in the zonal tournaments, challengers should not be the only criteria, a bunch of matches doesn't reflect the real picture, you need to see his consistency in the long term, in that aspect he is a good pick.

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[MCcricket]

I rather feel the injustice done to him previously has been corrected, he has made mountain of runs from school lvl, think God someone somewhere looks at merit

I am not sure of the guy who was left out but he deserves to be picked four months or a year or two back.

 

[fineleg]

^ Thats another selection problem - that they pick batsmen/bowlers AFTER their purple patch ends (should pick them when in red-hot form)

[rkt.india]

I rather feel the injustice done to him previously has been corrected, he has made mountain of runs from school lvl, think God someone somewhere looks at merit

I am not sure of the guy who was left out but he deserves to be picked four months or a year or two back.

 

What injustice? He failed in challengers so wasn't picked. Even now, his selection is baffling as he has been picked without proving himself against a good side.

[rkt.india]

Easy for you to say that, he played well in the zonal tournaments, challengers should not be the only criteria, a bunch of matches doesn't reflect the real picture, you need to see his consistency in the long term, in that aspect he is a good pick.

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Easy for you to say that, he played well in the zonal tournaments, challengers should not be the only criteria, a bunch of matches doesn't reflect the real picture, you need to see his consistency in the long term, in that aspect he is a good pick.

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Challengers was the criteria that is why they were held. There he had to play best bowlers of u19. I can tell you that he is no special talent.

[nsareen]

Challengers was the criteria that is why they were held. There he had to play best bowlers of u19. I can tell you that he is no special talent.

That's a bit of arrogance from your side, but never the less I'm happy he is selected. Hope he performs well but even if he doesn't , would still be a justifiable selection on merit, no matter how everyone else feels .

I'm only concerned about Rinku Singh, should have been selected for the World Cup instead of Ishan Kishan , we already have a wicketkeeper in Rishabh Pant, no need of two , rather a strong middle to lower order batsmen would have been ideal.

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[MCcricket]

This kid scored 1000 runs recently 3 200 on the trot n just missed the 4 the 200 he score 498 at school lvl , if he doesn't have talent then m afraid ABD cannot bat, cummon RKT are u a Jr selector, this kid should have been picked for the two tours before this.

[Ironhide]

This kid scored 1000 runs recently 3 200 on the trot n just missed the 4 the 200 he score 498 at school lvl , if he doesn't have talent then m afraid ABD cannot bat, cummon RKT are u a Jr selector, this kid should have been picked for the two tours before this.

Please don't start targeting other posters with comments like "are you a junior selector?" comments like these can be thrown from both the sides and also no need to bring names like ABD. He was just raising his concern as Challenger trophy was organised for these selections and he is justified in raising those concerns keeping the fact in mind that Arman does have the influence working for him like Mumbai Lobby and the Jaffers. 

 

If Arman Jaffer turns out to be a great batsmen, its all good for the Indian U19 team and later Mumbai Ranji and India seniors. So, everyone wishes well for him now that he is selected. The only thing i don't get is why such emotional response to a perfectly justified query/concern raised by RKT unless this is personal relationship like Friends or Family.

 

[nsareen]

Please don't start targeting other posters with comments like "are you a junior selector?" comments like these can be thrown from both the sides and also no need to bring names like ABD. He was just raising his concern as Challenger trophy was organised for these selections and he is justified in raising those concerns keeping the fact in mind that Arman does have the influence working for him like Mumbai Lobby and the Jaffers. 

 

If Arman Jaffer turns out to be a great batsmen, its all good for the Indian U19 team and later Mumbai Ranji and India seniors. So, everyone wishes well for him now that he is selected. The only thing i don't get is why such emotional response to a perfectly justified query/concern raised by RKT unless this is personal relationship like Friends or Family.

 

It was RKT who started the emotional discussions by saying "he is no special talent". Now who can say this without seeing somebody play ?

And the tournament he is referring to is Challengers, where Armaan failed only once in a high scoring game. Out of 3 opportunities he scored 25 while chasing 110 & 49 which was second highest from his team while chasing 282 and failed in 1 game. Himanshu Rana whom he is referring to as a batsman who is quite talented scored 19, 10 & 0 being in the same team as Armaan Jaffer.

Now you see you cannot say he is "no special talent" looking at a tournament where somebody got 3 chances to play, effectively 2, because in 1 game the chasing score was 110, so lets take that out, & out of two he played well in 1 & did not play well in the other.

I'm no Armaan's friend, relative or whatever, i'm not even from Mumbai, but the arrogance by which RKT says he should not have been selected was debatable & that is exactly what was happening.

[rkt.india]

This kid scored 1000 runs recently 3 200 on the trot n just missed the 4 the 200 he score 498 at school lvl , if he doesn't have talent then m afraid ABD cannot bat, cummon RKT are u a Jr selector, this kid should have been picked for the two tours before this.

How would you select when he didn't do well in the tournament that mattered.

[MCcricket]

How would you select when he didn't do well in the tournament that mattered.

RKT man I have respsct for u , n if a guy like Sran n Aussies pick potential bowlers who have talent, why can't a batsmen who scored 3 200 n 174 as 4 th score be ever questioned is plain wrong, n above quotes also prove the tournament ur talking about Lso he did fine, so if it's not personal or u know him n have seen him then something is missing, lets see him play, this guy scores 500 at school

[rkt.india]

RKT man I have respsct for u , n if a guy like Sran n Aussies pick potential bowlers who have talent, why can't a batsmen who scored 3 200 n 174 as 4 th score be ever questioned is plain wrong, n above quotes also prove the tournament ur talking about Lso he did fine, so if it's not personal or u know him n have seen him then something is missing, lets see him play, this guy scores 500 at school

Yar, he scored those runs in 3-day matches, not in 50 over matches. My problem is if they had to pick him, he should have been picked for two triseries too. He would have gotten some experience playing against good oppositions and we would have known more about him. I don't have anything personal against him.

[MCcricket]

 

 

Yar, he scored those runs in 3-day matches, not in 50 over matches. My problem is if they had to pick him, he should have been picked for two triseries too. He would have gotten some experience playing against good oppositions and we would have known more about him. I don't have anything personal against him.

Lol, lets wait n watch I luv watching u19 as it shows us future talent n stars, have very hig hopes from this batch, S Khan , Avesh, N  others