Move over, new brand of fearless indian cricketics here

[express bowling]

 

While giving chances to players under 25, give it to those who stand above their peers in terms of cognitive skills,problem solving skills and mental development,..

only kohli and rahane qualify here...rohit,raina,ishant and jadeja all shud have been given chances later

 

I agree with this part in principle.  There are many players like Ishant, Umesh, Rohit etc. whose  maturity and mental development have happened after the age of 24 or has not happened even then.  Not all players should be introduced in international cricket at 20 or 21.

However, looking at Jadeja bowl even in his early 20s...he has not come across as an Ishant-type cricketer. He has usually  bowled to a plan, steadily improved his bowling with experience and has tried to find batsmen's weaknesses. He was never a big turner of the ball and it is these qualities which have helped him succeed as a bowler. He is neither immature nor a slow learner.

[zen]

I agree with the general idea of embracing fearless brand of cricket. However, following needs to be noted:

* a newcomer, esp a youngster, is likely to be more fearless. Also he would take risks as he is trying to establish his position and thus seeking to gain the most of the opportunity

* a relatively established player is more likely to play safe out of fear of failure and losing his position. Also as one gets older, one tends to become a more risk averse and play the high percentage game. However, we do have / had a few exceptions such as Sehwag and Raina who are relatively fearless in their approach 

So to transform in to a team having a fearless culture, the senior players definitely have to show the way. More than being just fearless and reckless (Afridi), one has to be fearless in backing himself for high percentage success rate - so if it is a good yorker, look for a single,and if it is a low full toss, go for the boundary, there is no point in trying to play that for a single 

Second, the players have to learn to put personal milestones out of their minds. There is no point in unnecessarily slowing down in your 90s, or bowling a lighted delivery to pick up the 5th wkt when the opposition needs 20 for 6 balls 

 

 

[New guy]

I agree with this part in principle.  There are many players like Ishant, Umesh, Rohit etc. whose  maturity and mental development have happened after the age of 24 or has not happened even then.  Not all players should be introduced in international cricket at 20 or 21.

However, looking at Jadeja bowl even in his early 20s...he has not come across as an Ishant-type cricketer. He has usually  bowled to a plan, steadily improved his bowling with experience and has tried to find batsmen's weaknesses. He was never a big turner of the ball and it is these qualities which have helped him succeed as a bowler. He is neither immature nor a slow learner.

To me a batsman can be coached till a later stage. A promising young bowler needs to be introduced into international as soon as possible and learn in actual match situations before the coaches spoil him

[rkt.india]

22-24 is the ideal age for fast bowlers to debut in International cricket. Most potential Indian pacers start playing FC cricket by 19-20, so, they have at least 3-4 FC seasons by then and a few A tours too. They will still have 10-12 years of cricket career if hey are good last that long. Look at Ankit Rajpoot, he is 21 and has already played 2-3 seasons of FC cricket and he still has motivation to make it to Indian team in next 1-2 years.

[express bowling]

22-24 is the ideal age for fast bowlers to debut in International cricket. Most potential Indian pacers start playing FC cricket by 19-20, so, they have at least 3-4 FC seasons by then and a few A tours too. They will still have 10-12 years of cricket career if hey are good last that long. Look at Ankit Rajpoot, he is 21 and has already played 2-3 seasons of FC cricket and he still has motivation to make it to Indian team in next 1-2 years.

The case of fast bowlers is unique in the sense that they rarely bowl quick after they turn 34.  So. there is an urgency involved in introducing them. Starting FC career at 18 or 19 and making international debut after 3 to 5 years, depending on their mental and physical maturity, would be ideal.

Unadkat is bowling well only at 24 and Aniket Chaudhury is looking good from 25.

[rkt.india]

it is still too tight  ,they dont seem to have enough overs and experience under their belt ,if they are given fc debut at around 16 then they have a lot more time to understand the game and then the other problem is by their late 20s they are written off ,so effectively we are looking at an age  range of 22-26  for potential india players (ie debuts or int rookies), this is too small an age group and lots of them dont even have enough experience ,we need to take better care of the 16-20 and the 27-32 age groups.

problem is you dont get fast bowlers at the age of 16.

[rkt.india]

how many fast bowlers are there in ranji?i am talking about giving experience not speed ,in any case u19 int prospect pacers are as quick if not quicker than ranji pacers

Those U19 prospect pacers dont bowl that quick in Ranji. I saw both Avesh and Chama Millind in Ranji last year and they barely going over 125K, speed same as most Ranji pacers, Also, we have had quite a few pacers who debuted early in Ranji trophy like Pathan, RP, Booby, etc. They all were 16-17.

[rkt.india]

i know but without it it's always going to be lack of experience or too old ,there is no other alternative

Our domestic experience does not count much at the international level for pacers.

[express bowling]

Great innings by Pandya once again.   

31 off 18 balls. SR of 172 .with 2 sixes.

His innings had power hitting, timing, placement, lofted shots as well as a couple of classic square-cuts for 4.

This guy is not just a slogger but can play proper cricket shots.   

And to think that we were wasting the batting all-rounder's slot on low SR  Jadeja. He is much better off at his current no.8.

Edited February 24, 2016 by express bowling