Supreme Court accepts Lodha panel recommendations [Update Post 52: BCCI to meet Lodha Committee]

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, beautifulgame said:

 

 

Nope.Its because BCCI(Dalmiya ) decided to recognise Jarkhand and de recognize Bihar as the representative body when the state of Jarkhand was formed .

Yet in case of UP and MP they recognised the original state associations

 

All this because Jarkhand board was closer to BCCI and Bihar wasn't .

Because the stadium used by Bihar team was belonged to Jharkhand. It is not like they recognized Jharkhand over Bihar. Two different states and their issues were different too. As two states got divided, Bihar association also got divided. They became two factions both eyeing for recognition. Same thing is going on in Uttarakhand.

Edited July 19, 2016 by rkt.india

[sscomp32]

2 hours ago, beautifulgame said:

 

 

Nope.Its because BCCI(Dalmiya ) decided to recognise Jarkhand and de recognize Bihar as the representative body when the state of Jarkhand was formed .

Yet in case of UP and MP they recognised the original state associations

 

All this because Jarkhand board was closer to BCCI and Bihar wasn't .

I feel it is more due to a lack of proper ground in Bihar. Keenan stadium in jamshedpur went to jharkhand and therefore they got the advantage of a readymade ground. 

[FischerTal]

interesting, what impact will this have on RCA and their long running tiff with BCCI?

[BeautifulGame]

3 hours ago, sscomp32 said:

I feel it is more due to a lack of proper ground in Bihar. Keenan stadium in jamshedpur went to jharkhand and therefore they got the advantage of a readymade ground. 

Even if I were to take this at face value , how hard is it for BCCI to ask for ground sharing with Jarkhand (Till Patna CG was renovated) instead of de recognizing and ensuring No Ranji team  one of the biggest states in India .

[Malcolm Merlyn]

12 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

Even if I were to take this at face value , how hard is it for BCCI to ask for ground sharing with Jarkhand (Till Patna CG was renovated) instead of de recognizing and ensuring No Ranji team  one of the biggest states in India .

Bihar had 3 dfferent associations asking to be recognised and threatening legal consequences.So BCCI took the safe route and recognised Jharkhand.

[BeautifulGame]

39 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

Bihar had 3 dfferent associations asking to be recognised and threatening legal consequences.So BCCI took the safe route and recognised Jharkhand.

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Under Jagmohan Dalmiya, around 2004, the BCCI tried to change the name of the Bihar Cricket Association (BCA), a BCCI member since 1935, and in 2004 led by the controversial chief minister of Bihar, Laloo Prasad Yadav, to Jharkhand State Cricket Association (JSCA), a move that didn't sit well with Bihar, the bigger state.

According to Ajay Sharma, secretary of the BCA, this happened because their vote was never going to go to Dalmiya, who favoured Amitabh Chaudhury, an officer in the Indian Police Service, who led JSCA. Legal wrangling followed, committees were formed, external investigations came about, the BCCI's rule moved from Dalmiya to Sharad Pawar and then to Shashank Manohar. And then another body - Association of Bihar Cricket (ABC), led by former India cricketer Kirti Azad - came up, claiming to represent Bihar.

 

[url=http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/740325.html]Cricinfo[/url]

 

Nope.These factions and associations emerged after BCCI started to derecognize Bihar board.

 

[sscomp32]

Cricinfo

 

Nope.These factions and associations emerged after BCCI started to derecognize Bihar board.

 

Wow. I didn't knew this at all. All I always heard was that there is no proper ground and proper association to represent. Also on the ground topic I think moinul haq stadium could have been renovated if bihar had a proper ranji team.

[Nova]

I was wondering if BCCI could appeal this again or try to find some loopholes to maintain status quo. This is what one BCCI official said:

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"Nothing unexpected, nothing unusual. This was on the cards only," a BCCI official well versed in legal matters told ESPNcricinfo. He conceded the board had no wriggle room, and effectively ruled out the option of reviewing the verdict. "There is nothing to debate on it. You simply have to just adopt it. That's what Supreme Court has asked us to do.

"There is no scope for analysis. What are we going to gain [by reviewing the order]? The Lodha Committee has done everything, so we just have to put in place what it has laid down."  Source

So, hoping here that the recommendations do get implemented and it's not all talk.

[rkt.india]

13 hours ago, BeautifulGame said:

[url=http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/740325.html]Cricinfo[/url]

 

Nope.These factions and associations emerged after BCCI started to derecognize Bihar board.

 

that was 2004. Dalmiya long gone. Why didnt happen after that? So many presidents have come and gone since then.

[sourab10forever]

On 7/19/2016 at 5:24 AM, Malcolm Merlyn said:

Conjectures and Speculation on your part bhabhiji.

And votes were on basis of cricketing culture of that state.Now Maharashtra and Manipur has same voting rights.Wow.

democracy....I think is such a word in existence.

[BeautifulGame]

9 hours ago, rkt.india said:

that was 2004. Dalmiya long gone. Why didnt happen after that? So many presidents have come and gone since then.

Because every one else who followed cared just as much for power and happy to maintain status quo as long as they got votes.Meant no need to share revenue with an extra member.

 

Bihar a state with 10 crore population recieved just 50 lakh in last ten years.Goa with 20 lakh population gets 25 crore every year.How do u justify that?

[Nova]

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BCCI president Anurag Thakur and secretary Ajay Shirke will meet the Lodha Committee members on August 9 in Delhi. It is understood that the meeting was requested by the BCCI, which finds itself in a spot after the Supreme Court accepted most of the recommendations made by the Lodha Committee, which suggested wholesale changes to the governance structure of the board and the state associations.

Since the court pronounced the judgement on Monday, the BCCI is yet to formally make any public announcement about how it intends to deal with the transition. The two-judge bench of the court, comprising Chief Justice of India TS Thakur and Justice Ibrahim Kaliffula, whose last day in office was Friday, had asked the BCCI and the states to put in the new measures within six months, under the supervision of the Lodha Committee.

The state associations are confused and have been looking to the BCCI for direction. The BCCI, in turn, is waiting to hear from its legal committee, which, it is learned, is likely to meet next week to discuss the court order.

The Lodha Committee already set the ball rolling and asked the BCCI to tell the states to stall their scheduled elections till further notice. Failing to adhere to the instructions, the committee has made it clear, will only make the election results null and void.

Post the court order on July 18, only Jammu & Kashmir Cricket Association decided to hold its elections and even elected a serving minister in the state government as its president. The Lodha Committee had made it clear that no serving minister could serve as an administrator. It only means the election of Imran Raza Ansari as JKCA president stands disqualified.

That the Lodha Committee had already started wielding its power was evident when both Cricket Association of Bengal and the Karnataka State Cricket Association postponed their scheduled elections, after they were put on hold. The CAB polls were supposed to take place on July 31 while KSCA's were scheduled for August 7.

KSCA secretary Brijesh Patel said the decision to defer the elections was taken once the communique from Lodha Committee arrived. "We had an emergent managing committee meeting and have unanimously decided to postpone the elections as per the directions of the Supreme Court. They will tells us about the constitution of the [managing] committee as per the Lodha recommendations."

Patel also said he was seeking more clarity from the BCCI on the composition of the managing committee and how the recommendations would be implemented. "Let them come out with, if there will be a president, three vice-presidents, or one vice-president or will there be an apex council. There is no clarity on that."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/story/1038015.html

Hope there are no under the table deals to suit the BCCI