BCCI to cancel India-NZ series?

[G_B_]

This Lodha Panel has to be disbanded.Enough is Enough. The case before the supreme court was to judge whether Srini was a case of conflict of interest,and now SC is trying to run cricket in India through this panel.

 

What is the qualification of this panel in terms of finance,administration etc?

 

How can a court start running administration?

 

SC must first put its own house in order after the Justice Chelameshwar revealations and then direct others.

 

Kudos to the Modi govt for telling the SC  today that they dont have the authority to direct the Parliament to pass any laws.That is the perogative of the parliament.

Nailed it. This is judicial overreach.

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[Stuge]

Nah ,not gonna happen

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[G_B_]

Ultimately people need to keep on mind the bcci is not a government owned or listed company.

So long as they dont break the laws of the country, their internal workings are theirs to implement.

Dont like it? Dont watch India

Quite frankly its a bit ridiculous we even have a panel for this in the first place.

What next sc tells reliance industries there is too much nepotism n conflict of interest and forms another committee

As I said before the sc have been slapped hard based on recent events in arunachal pradesh. Their judgement was impractical and reeked of bias v the central gov. Look at the practical reaction today

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[G_B_]

And its not just cricket. Why the fudge is the sc getting involved in which wrestler goes to the Olympics?

Its also ironic that sc struck down judicial reforms of the central gov ignoring the fact that sons and daughters sitting judges are becoming judges in disproportionate numbers under the current system

Love to know the views of justice lodha

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[mishra]

9 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

 

They did implement a lot of reforms.But some reforms are simply stupid.

 

What concern is it of the SC whether the gap between IPL and international matches is 10days or 15 days?

 

How can the SC ask BCCI  administrators to retire at 70,when we have 90 year old MPs and have had 80 year old PM or CMs?

 

How can SC ask BCCI to limit term of BCCI office bearers if the terms of the PM/CM/MPs/MLAs isnt limited?

 

SC has no accountability and their workings has been exposed by Justice Chelameshwar.Laws must be passed to make sure SC doesnt interfere in legislature and executive.

 

 

There seems more to it. There is not big enough gap between IPL and champions trophy to be played next year. If india is supposed to implement gap rule to avoid so called player burnout, it has to sacrifice IPL. Now somewhere in all this Lodha thing, cancellation of IPL is motive. Just this IPL,  games had to be moved on Courts directive that water is being wasted by maintaining cricket ground

[CG]

Ultimately people need to keep on mind the bcci is not a government owned or listed company.

So long as they dont break the laws of the country, their internal workings are theirs to implement.

Dont like it? Dont watch India

Quite frankly its a bit ridiculous we even have a panel for this in the first place.

What next sc tells reliance industries there is too much nepotism n conflict of interest and forms another committee

As I said before the sc have been slapped hard based on recent events in arunachal pradesh. Their judgement was impractical and reeked of bias v the central gov. Look at the practical reaction today

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Its Bcci fault if they had followed own constitution and kicked out csk nothing would have happened .But they allowed themselves to be dragged in to the mess and sc will have last word.It may be judicial overreach but it is welcome.

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2 minutes ago, CG said:

Its Bcci fault if they had followed own constitution and kicked out csk nothing would have happened .But they allowed themselves to be dragged in to the mess and sc will have last word.It may be judicial overreach but it is welcome.

The srinivasan administration did. Unfair on the Thakur admin. I dont see Thakur owning any IPL franchise or there being any conflict of interest.

 

 

[New guy]

Its not about not having conflict of interest now. It is about making sure things changes from the ground so that in the future no such possibility arises

 

Also looks like BCCI is just creating noise to gain public outrage. Lodha commission has denied doing any such thing. 

 

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/story/1060357.html

 

Title needs to be changed

[G_B_]

11 minutes ago, New guy said:

Its not about not having conflict of interest now. It is about making sure things changes from the ground so that in the future no such possibility arises

 

Also looks like BCCI is just creating noise to gain public outrage. Lodha commission has denied doing any such thing. 

 

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/story/1060357.html

 

Title needs to be changed

 

Maybe the SC need to follow their own advise...

 

11 out of 28 sitting SC judges had either judges or legal luminaries as relatives. Here are some specifics on sitting Supreme Court judges-

CJI TS Thakur: Father – late Justice DD Thakur, Judge JK HC;
Justice Dipak Misra: Uncle – Late Justice Ranganath Misra, former CJI;
Justice MB Lokur: Father – former Judge of Allahabad HC; 
Justice PC Ghose: Father – Late Justice SC Ghose, former CJ, Calcutta HC;
Justice SA Bobde: Father – former AG of Maharashtra Arvind Bobde;
Justice SK Singh: Father – Late Justice SP Singh, Patna HC, Maternal grandfather – Late Justice BP Sinha, sixth CJI;
Justice S Mishra: Father – Late Justice HG Mishra, former judge, Allahabad HC;
Justice RF Nariman: Father – Noted jurist Fali S. Nariman, senior advocate;
Justice UU Lalit: Father – Justice UR Lalit, former additional judge, Delhi HC;
Justice A Roy: Father – Late AB Roy, Senior Advocate;
Justice DY Chandrachud: Father – Late Justice YV Chandrachud, former CJI.

 

 

http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=415286

 

 

So lets be frank about this. The SC court puts down orders which are against its own nepotism and corrupt practices. Yet ironically wants to act holier than thou in the case of the BCCI.

 

For example. the Lodha panel wants politicians and people who are over a certain age to not be eligible to run.  Is the supreme court following the same directives in its own workings similar to what the Lodha panel suggested? 

 

The truth nepotism in the judiciary at the highest levels, is far more harmful to the country than what is a sporting body. 

 

Both the BCCI and the SC are built on nepotism. Wrong for the SC to interfere in matters of the former.

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

These are not good signs

[Malcolm Merlyn]

Its not about not having conflict of interest now. It is about making sure things changes from the ground so that in the future no such possibility arises

 

Also looks like BCCI is just creating noise to gain public outrage. Lodha commission has denied doing any such thing. 

 

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/story/1060357.html

 

Title needs to be changed

Let me explain why this Lodha Committee is ludicurous in the eyes of law.

BCCI has been formed under Tamil Nadu Societies act and has its on Memorandum drawn under the rules of that act.BCCI has to abide by that memorandum and the rules of TN societies act.The authority to look into whether a society is abiding by those rules is the registrar of societies of TN.The SC can ask either the registrar or appoint someone to look whether BCCI is functioning under the rules of that act or not.

Now by shoving down these recommendations into BCCI,which are not part of the TN societies act the SC is either amending that act or passing a new act.The SC neither has the power to pass a legislation or modify one.It can only work within what is there in the constitution.

This judicial overreach and judicial legislation is a heated debate.The SC refuses to reform while giving sermons to others.It talks of judicial independence while interfering in the legislature and the executive.

This has happened due to subsequent weak coalition govt who didnt have the guts to take on the SC regarding this esp the UPA.

Modi govt had already twice in last 6 months told the SC to mind its own business.

The first when SC ordered to set up a 500cr disaster management fund and NDA replied that the budget is passed and no such funds can be created and the SC has no business telling them how to do budgetary allocations.

Second time yesterday when the SC asked center to pass a legislation to form a Cauvery Management body and the center replied that the SC has no authority to direct the legislature.

Expect more such snubs to come and expect this govt to pass legislations to override SC orders.

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[BeautifulGame]

/>Second time yesterday when the SC asked center to pass a legislation to form a Cauvery Management body and the center replied that the SC has no authority to direct the legislature

Atleast SC trying to find a solution to the carvery problem.

All the center Govt is doing sitting idle when two states are burning playing politics .

SC has done a lot more for Carvery problem than any Central govt .If that is and asking setting up Carvery management body to find solutions is overreach the Central govt can do one .It's basically asking the govt to its job.

[G_B_]

Ever since Modi government tried to break the stranglehold of this gymkhana or private club mentality of the SC,  the SC has just basically acted as the law. This BCCI venture of the SC should be viewed in relation to that.

 

They want to rule India, by promoting those relatives close to them...why even have democracy? Lets just have justice Thakur pass on the mantle to his relatives and be done with it.

 

 

 

 

[Malcolm Merlyn]

Ever since Modi government tried to break the stranglehold of this gymkhana or private club mentality of the SC,  the SC has just basically acted as the law. This BCCI venture of the SC should be viewed in relation to that.

 

They want to rule India, by promoting those relatives close to them...why even have democracy? Lets just have justice Thakur pass on the mantle to his relatives and be done with it.

 

 

 

 

The SC will be reformed and they have to.A strong govt at the center and overall political will is againist this judicial overreach and the cosy club at HC.

A sports bill may be in offing soon and that will make the SC and Lodha committee reforms illegal.

Atleast SC trying to find a solution to the carvery problem.

All the center Govt is doing sitting idle when two states are burning playing politics .

SC has done a lot more for Carvery problem than any Central govt .If that is and asking setting up Carvery management body to find solutions is overreach the Central govt can do one .It's basically asking the govt to its job.

How is the GOI supposed to take sides between 2 states?

[mishra]

8 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

Atleast SC trying to find a solution to the carvery problem.

All the center Govt is doing sitting idle when two states are burning playing politics .

SC has done a lot more for Carvery problem than any Central govt .If that is and asking setting up Carvery management body to find solutions is overreach the Central govt can do one .It's basically asking the govt to its job.

If there is something in Court, Then no one, absolutely NO One can do anything till it has come out of Court best is to make a out of Court Settlement .

Supreme Court again and again, is there to uphold the law and scrutinize agreements, documents and any infringement  to basic Rights of people. Its NOT there to broker a deal between two parties.

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[BeautifulGame]

How is the GOI supposed to take sides between 2 states?

Taking sides ? They are asked to implement their own notification.

[G_B_]

22 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

Atleast SC trying to find a solution to the carvery problem.

All the center Govt is doing sitting idle when two states are burning playing politics .

SC has done a lot more for Carvery problem than any Central govt .If that is and asking setting up Carvery management body to find solutions is overreach the Central govt can do one .It's basically asking the govt to its job.

 That would involve setting up an in person meeting between the CM's of two states. Considering Jayas health that was just not possible. 

 

Thats the entire reason she went to the supreme court. Once it was with the courts it was basically it.

 

Its also interesting to know, Mr L Nageswara Rao was counsel to Jayalalitha in her assets case. He is now a Supreme court justice (serving)

 

The above fact just highlights just how screwed up the system is. How the hell was this guy even allowed to pass judgement? Isnt that conflict of interest in an issue much more important than the BCCI?

 

 

[BeautifulGame]

 That would involve setting up an in person meeting between the CM's of two states. Considering Jayas health that was just not possible. 

 

Thats the entire reason she went to the supreme court. Once it was with the courts it was basically it.

 

Its also interesting to know, Mr L Nageswara Rao was counsel to Jayalalitha in her assets case. He is now a Supreme court justice (serving)

 

The above fact just highlights just how screwed up the system is. How the hell was this guy even allowed to pass judgement? Isnt that conflict of interest in an issue much more important than the BCCI?

 

 

Jaya's health was pretty decent when this cropped up.She was attending the Legislative assembly and making speeches about Carvery dispute so not sure what u are on about during that period .

And just to add the notification was done in 2013 and what did Govt did from then ? Absolutely nothing .

Was this Nageswara Rao also part of the CWDT by any chance ?

[G_B_]

2 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

 

 

Jaya's health was pretty decent when this cropped up.She was attending the Legislative assembly and making speeches about Carvery dispute so not sure what u are on about during that period .

And just to add the notification was done in 2013 and what did Govt did from then ? Absolutely nothing .

and you know this how?

 

she barely leaves Poes garden and travelling to delhi and making speeches in assembly a few Km from her house are different things. The former needs much more energy. 

 

Keep in mind PM Modi met even Deve Gowda a regional outfit chief and made changes in his schedule. I am sure should she have wished she could have easily met the PM. He has even called on her at her residence during his tenure.

 

But it was her choice to go via the supreme court. She knew Mr Nariman who was her lawyer was representing Karnataka. She knew Mr Rao was a serving judge. When the die is loaded in your favor why will you go down the diplomatic route?

[BeautifulGame]

and you know this how?

 

she barely leaves Poes garden and travelling to delhi and making speeches in assembly a few Km from her house are different things. The former needs much more energy. 

 

Keep in mind PM Modi met even Deve Gowda a regional outfit chief and made changes in his schedule. I am sure should she have wished she could have easily met the PM. He has even called on her at her residence during his tenure.

 

But it was her choice to go via the supreme court. She knew Mr Nariman who was her lawyer was representing Karnataka. She knew Mr Rao was a serving judge. When the die is loaded in your favor why will you go down the diplomatic route?

Because we saw her making speeches in the assembly on TV ?

She has gone to SC because the CWDT was in our favor and center failed to implement it despite notification.