CPEC has ZERO economic viability, its a massive cost. Is the purpose something else?

[Muloghonto]

6 minutes ago, Finer said:

 

If Pakistan is not getting involved in the internal matter of India despite Modi's communal party that is wreaking havoc on oppressed Muslims all over India. It is only fair that Pakistan has no right to get involved in the matter of China's internal matter. 

 

You are getting involved in our internal affair via Kashmir, since Kashmir is legally Indian territory and you are illegal occupiers of it.

 

[sandeep]

4 minutes ago, Finer said:

 

If Pakistan is not getting involved in the internal matter of India despite Modi's communal party that is wreaking havoc on oppressed Muslims all over India. It is only fair that Pakistan has no right to get involved in the matter of China's internal matter. 

 

Seriously how old are you 12?   Muslims are more oppressed in Pakistan than in India if you exclude J&K.  that's just a plain simple fact.  And J&K is suffering primarily due to Pakistan's actions, not that I will claim that it makes Indian mistakes there acceptable.  

[sandeep]

5 minutes ago, Finer said:

 

Do you understand how the economy work? China is bringing growth of revenue in the economy of Pakistan whereas India is buying Chinese goods to support the economy of China which in result promoting the growth of revenue in the economy of Pakistan and defense related projects. I thought you Indians are supposed to be good at math unless zero is the only factor that you have mastered. 

  CPEC projects are written up in a way that guarantees profits for China, not Pakistan.  But I understand that facts and reality don't interest you as much as trolling.  

[Muloghonto]

1 minute ago, Finer said:

 

Wikipedia? You are quoting public domain that can be edited by the public? Why are Indians obsessed with Wikipedia? Whenever they don't have answer, they immediately go to Wikipedia as the last resort even though Wikipedia is not reliable.

 

 

I know madrassah education isn't very good, but if you look, this particular wikipedia page has cited its sources- where each and every terrorist incident can be cited from Paksitani news sources itself.

 

PS: Still waiting for proof that UK and Germany are involved in CPEC or waiting for the vaunted 'Islamic Mardangi' to admit you were wrong. But then again, ' Mardangi' isn't very common in Pakistan, since you have a serious deficit of integrity. 

[Muloghonto]

2 minutes ago, Finer said:

And India doesn't have toilet issues. Welcome to the imaginary world.

 

Running away from the question and the facts given again ?

You Pakistanis have the same toilet issues as we do. Atleast we are doing something about it.

 

Imaginary world would be where your Allah lives. I can supply evidence for each and every assessment.

 

Now tell us, where can we find a Paksitani who is educated in legalism ? 

Edited December 10, 2016 by Muloghonto

[Muloghonto]

Just now, Finer said:

Kashmir is disputed territory. Indians have no say on the matter on Indian Occupied Kashmir. It is officials regardless of you think. Majority of Kashmiris in Azad Kashmir chose Pakistan, and people in Indian Occupied Kashmir are being held against their wills. Again, that is official stance that cannot stance even if you disagree.

 

Kashmir is not disputed territory. It is legally India's territorry, the whole world recognizes it as such. As i said, is there a single Paksitani who is educated in legalism ? You clearly are not. 

Majority of Kashmiris chose nothing, since there was no referendum to begin with.

 

[Muloghonto]

1 minute ago, Finer said:

Like Karachi economy had been feeding China since 60s instead of Pakistan? So you have no clue how the economy works, do you? No wonder why India had disaster foreign policy. Because of mindset like this is the reason why the trade has been politicized between Pakistan and India. Otherwise, trade is only possible provided both Pakistan and India are involved.

 

It takes two to tango in the economical world. Surely you Indians should have known the basics of economy by now.

We have no need or desire to trade with napunsaaks like your nation.

 

[Muloghonto]

Just now, Finer said:

Your media shows that Muslims in Pakistan are oppressed which you cannot verify since you have never been in Pakistan and integrity of Indian medias are questionable, to the extent caught with lies several times.

 

But not the million of Kashmiris oppressed to death that is show on the LIVE tv? You can travel to IOK to confirm your suspicious. Nonetheless, indeed India medias had done its homework on you. You are now certified guinea pig of Indian medias.

I have been to Pakistan. Your lower income level people are far more oppressed than in India, particularly farmers. 

I know Pakistanis are poor in education, which is why no western country gives a crap about your sorry nation, but Indian Kashmir is legally India's. Pakistan's, isn't. You can run away from that fact all you like, like your napunsak nation.

 

[Muloghonto]

Just now, Finer said:

But you would rather make official threat to undermine CPEC as attested by your own officials including Ajit Doval aka in-charge of Indian NSA. Something tells me that India is stupid at times.

CPEC passes through area that is legally India's. Not Pakistan's. So we have a right to object to it.

 

[Muloghonto]

Just now, Finer said:

Farmers are enjoying the life in Pakistan, and in fact, more investments have been made on agriculture. Whereas farmers are committing suicide everyday in India. Not to mention India has huge poverty that is staring at your face, hygiene issues and to the extent, no toilets available all over India. Surely you are not that stupid to ignore what is happening right in front of you.

They are enjoying nothing, since 90% of farmers in Paksitan have no rights to their land, which is exactly the opposite in India. 

Our poverty & hygene issue is less than that of Paksitan's, this i have seen with my own eyes. Since you haven't been to India, you have no way of disputing it either.

 

[Muloghonto]

1 minute ago, Finer said:

Go head and take it unless you are afraid people in IOK expose the true nature of Indian invading army. Think about lots of publicity. 

Oh we will take it. But first we will let you pour money in it, so its a double whammy for you jaahils.

You idiots don't even know the basic legal fact that you cannot occupy what is legally yours. Maybe thats why you guys are half as rich as us on average. 

 

Edited December 10, 2016 by Muloghonto

[Muloghonto]

7 minutes ago, Finer said:

Go head and have fun in imaginary world. Meanwhile, Pakistan is taking more land from you one at a time. Need i to remind you where Pakistan came from? Or who ruled you guys for centurions?

We don't live in the imaginary world of Allah, you idiots do.

And don't worry, we will take it all back. Unlike you jaahils, we actually admire and care about our history, not glorify the ones who raped our ancestors.

 

[Muloghonto]

5 minutes ago, Finer said:

You are confused with Indian farmers. India has the largest poverty in the whole world. That is official position. You do understand the word 'official', right?

 

You have seen with your eye open on Pakistan that is clean and greenary or Indian farmers that is committing everyday in India which is daily routine in according to Indian medias [your media].

Nope. No confusion. Most Indian farmers own their own land, most Pakistani farmers don't. 

India has the largest poverty because we have the 2nd largest population. But per-capita, Paksitan has more poverty.

Our media is a lot more open than your media, which is also reflected in OFFICIAL rankings of media freedom globally, which is why we see Indian media address issues in India more than Pakistan does in Pakistani media. Coz your nation is a nation of cowards & sell-outs who name their missiles after the ones who raped their own ancestors.

 

[narenpande1]

4 hours ago, Finer said:

Go head and have fun in imaginary world. Meanwhile, Pakistan is taking more land from you one at a time. Need i to remind you where Pakistan came from? Or who ruled you guys for centurions?

You are right bro. 

 

Pak is super rich, it has soo much land. 

 

Much more than  it needs or any other country. 

 

That's why we took away a chunk of that land and gave it to Bangladeshis.

 

But bro, you still have so much land left.

 

We will now give another chunk of it for the republic of balochistan. 

 

Mashallah .. Pak people have bigger hearts than Indians.

 

After all how much land do you need when your economy is based on exporting terrorists ?  

 

 

Edited December 11, 2016 by narenpande1

[Haarkarjeetgaye]

Did not read all the posts, but the subject is wrong. It will become the most important trade corridor in Asia, once established. The most to benefit will be China as it opens their trade route to Middle East. Baluchistan and Pakistan will benefit because of the jobs it will generate. Russia is trying to get a pie. The biggest threat is for India, unless we find a way to use the route in conjunction with Pak and China. I believe that is why we have increased our presence in Afghanistan and delay CPEC as much as we can.

[randomGuy]

^ yes I guessed so...Bangladeshis can kick you out and create a new nation as long as they are Muslims.

 

Arabs can treat you like slaves and pigs. As long as they are Muslims.

[Muloghonto]

13 hours ago, Finer said:

Technically, you guys are glorifying rapists given the capitalism culture of India. You guys didn't even take Bangladesh when you separated Bangladesh from Pakistan. If you can't take Bangladesh as part of India, then your imaginary threat have zero value which is something Indians should be familiar with.

 

We are not in the business of occupying lands illegally. That is what separates a civilized nation like ours from a jaahil nation like yours.

Btw, only difference between Indian and Paksitani economic culture, is that we are less sifarishi and more data-driven than your hack job nation, which is just as capitalistic but less effective at it due to lacking high end talent & dedication.

 

[mishra]

As per World Bank newly updated maps, CPEC Chinese and Pakistanis are going via India (no PoK). Hope others organization change their maps soon

Edited December 14, 2016 by mishra

[Muloghonto]

3 hours ago, Finer said:

But you are in the business of illegally occupying lands like IOK which is documented and is on official records which is something you cannot deny even if you want to.

 

Indian economy aka indian money is meant to be used for the foreign nations whereas Pakistan economy is meant to be used for Pakistan only. Again, your money are going to foreign nations like China and USA instead of helping your own nation whereas for Pakistan, first port in Karachi has kept Pakistan survived for too long and the second is now on board aka CPEC.

I call 100% Bakwaas from you on the bolded part. 

Official record shows that :

a) Paramount of Kashmir had full sovereign rights

b) Paramount of Kashmir legally acceded to sovereign of India, making Kashmir legally part of India. 

 

If you dare challenge the official records, then show us what the official records state.

 

The fact that you think we occupy land illegally, shows how illogical & ignorant your propaganda machine is, bachchey.

 

Indian economy is used by Indians AND foreigners, you dimwit- thats how everyone gets rich. China's economy is also used a lot more by foreigners now than it was 30 years ago: direct consequence of China becoming richer. 

You Pakistanis don't have an economy to speak of. So don't talk nonsense.

This is the difference between China, India and Paksitan, economically speaking:

 

China : humongous, got its kick start in 1979, its economy has benefitted foreigners and its own citizens, with less benefit to foreigners relative to citizens.

India : nearly humongous, got its kick start in the 1990s, its economy has benefited foreigners & its own citizens, though it has benefited foreigners more compared to China.

Pakistan : Tiny, never got its kick start, your income levels are staying stagnant, which means in the era of inflation, you are getting relatively poorer and poorer. 

 

Edited December 15, 2016 by Muloghonto

[narenpande1]

On 12/12/2016 at 9:54 PM, Finer said:

You took away Bangladesh that separated from India to Pakistan, and then you granted Bangladesh as separate Muslim nation, thus maintaining two-nations theory alive and well.

 

So Pakistan has no problem if Bangladesh has gotten independence instead of being part of India. Either way, it is still victory given Azad Kashmir and Bangladesh are not part of India, and pretty soon IOK won't be part of India regardless of whether IOK becomes part of Pakistan or not.

 

Ask your Ajit Doval who has confessed sponsoring terrorism through Afghan-based terrorist outfit aka TTP because he and Modi are threatened by the progressive rate of Gawadar port in Balochistan.

 

Technically Pakistan is rich by the resources, but lacks the technology of refinery. That being said, it is just matter of time hopefully.

 

You are a nation up for sale to the highest bidder. Find a master and monetize your nuisance value. That has been Pak's mantra of survival.

First that master was US, now China. You would soon start to appreciate the benevolence of US, after China loots your resources and hammers you down with the weight of expensive loans it has given for CPEC.

 

Bangladesh was only a first. Try stopping the further breakup of Pak territory into Balochistan, Sindhudesh and Pakhtunistan. It is inevitable that Pak will finally be left as Punjabistan. 

 

Must have been quite embarrassing to see Afghan President Ashraf Ghani humiliate your country in front of 20 other countries at the heart of Asia conference.

 

Yes, it is good, that the 2 nation theory was implemented. It resulted in the breakup of the subcontinent into a  secular progressive India in its current state  ..and the rest of it was extremist garbage. Thankfully we moved out the garbage and put it in a very big garbage box.

 

It does not matter how many times that big garbage box breaks up further now. Atleast it is out of India.