Tour Match: India A v Australia at Mumbai (BS) on Feb 17-19, 2017

[Cricketics]

8 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

who said that? Karthik has a really good technique. What lets him down is his temperament.

People were mad here on forum when he was chosen as opener back in 2007.

 

Anyways, I am never big on technique and it is just my belief that if you can bat at no.3 and show temperament to play long innings, then you have enough technique to come and face the new ball and survive.  

 

Hopefully he gets the slot he wants but if not available, he will have to adjust to what is available. 

 

 

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Pandya gets Renshaw 

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Maxwell at no 3

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Maxwell bowled by Saini

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Saini bowling well  4 overs 2 maidens ,,9 runs ,1 wicket 

Edited February 19, 2017 by tweaker

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O Keefe at no 4

[rkt.india]

3 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

People were mad here on forum when he was chosen as opener back in 2007.

 

Anyways, I am never big on technique and it is just my belief that if you can bat at no.3 and show temperament to play long innings, then you have enough technique to come and face the new ball and survive.  

 

Hopefully he gets the slot he wants but if not available, he will have to adjust to what is available. 

 

 

i wasnt here. what got Karthik the node was his batting against SA on SA tour of 2006. It was just an experiment like Sanjay Bangar in 2002. Karthik never did anything of note after that. He was just a one series wonder. For long term success, you need both technique and temperament. There are certainly exceptions like Sehwag but he had a very good defense.

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Australia 32/2

[rkt.india]

8 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said:

    Is iyer's defense not good enough ? in that case he cannot succeed even in middle order .

   where you think he needs to improve to be in international class player.

    Is it he

1. Plays pre -meditated shots ? 

2. Plays too many arial shots from the start?

3. Plays away from body too much in his offside play ?

Plays too much away from body, lack of footwork, plays across a lot, and suspicious against quick short stuff. Aerial stuff is okay because in tests you dont have many fielders outside.

[Cricketics]

 

10 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said:

    Is iyer's defense not good enough ? in that case he cannot succeed even in middle order .

   

Many make too much of techniques by just seeing a player when he is too raw and is still improving. Iyer is young and batting well and I am sure works on the swinging deliveries a lot. Players generally get better and improve more against swinging deliveries, especially Indian players, with time.

 

Also, if you bat at no 5/6, there is a very high chance that you will be facing brand new ball as the ball changes in the 80th over. It works the same way as an opener.  This is where Rahane is really good. So if one is saying Iyer can bat with the new ball at 5/6 when the ball is brand new, then he can surely open also if needed. 

[rkt.india]

Just now, Cricketics said:

 

Many make too much of techniques by just seeing a player when he is too raw and is still improving. Iyer is young and batting well and I am sure works on the swinging deliveries a lot. Players generally get better and improve more against swinging deliveries, especially Indian players, with time.

 

Also, if you bat at no 5/6, there is a very high chance that you will be facing brand new ball as the ball changes in the 80th over. It works the same way as an opener.  This is where Rahane is really good. So if one is saying Iyer can bat with the new ball at 5/6 when the ball is brand new, then he can surely open also if needed. 

I am not denying player cannot improve. Iyer is a good prospect, but he too has his shortcomings like any other young batsman. 

[rkt.india]

Just now, MultiB48 said:

karthik''s problem was he failed to bat well lower down the order in asian conditions

After England tour 2007, he batted as an opener and failed. Karhtik was not the keeper, so, there was no chance for him to bat in lower down the order. He had to open and he failed. I think he struggled against the pace of Shoaib Akhtar as an opener in his next series when Pakistan toured later in 2007. He played first two tests and then they called up Gambhir for the third test.

 

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/297806.html

 

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/297807.html

[rkt.india]

8 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

he was never an opener ,for all his life he trained to be a wk batsman and then as dhoni came in he got desperate to try to get in the team ,it was like dravid's keeping,his primary job as a batsman was to bat well down the order in ind had he done that well he would have kept his place

 

 

still his overall performance as opener is not bad

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
V Sehwag	2006-2013	60	106	3	4843	319	47.01	5454	88.79	12	21	9	676	52
G Gambhir	2007-2016	44	80	3	3435	206	44.61	6786	50.61	8	19	6	418	9
M Vijay	2008-2017	44	77	1	3193	167	42.01	6821	46.81	9	14	5	381	30
S Dhawan	2013-2016	23	39	1	1464	187	38.52	2442	59.95	4	3	4	192	5
W Jaffer	2006-2008	22	41	1	1454	212	36.35	2956	49.18	4	7	4	197	3
KL Rahul	2015-2017	12	19	0	803	199	42.26	1416	56.70	4	1	1	88	9
KD Karthik	2007-2007	8	14	0	572	129	40.85	1119	51.11	1	5	0	72	1
R Dravid	2007-2011	6	10	2	438	146*	54.75	1095	40.00	2	1	0	62	0
CA Pujara	2012-2015	4	6	3	348	145*	116.00	561	62.03	1	2	1	43	0
A Mukund	2011-2011	5	10	0	211	62	21.10	518	40.73	0	1	2	21	0
PA Patel	2016-2016	2	3	1	180	71	90.00	251	71.71	0	2	0	24	1
IK Pathan	2006-2008	2	3	0	15	9	5.00	38	39.47	0	0	1	2	0

Thing is there was no spot in the middle order.

[rkt.india]

Navdeep Saini is a class act. He might not be the quickest bowler among the younger breed, but he is an effective bowler. I would really like to see him in places like SA, NZ next time.

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Navdeep Saini impressing once again.  

 

7-2-20-1 ,  with a rampaging Warner at the crease , is not easy.

 

I look forward to these games against international teams.... those bowlers who do well may have something special about them.

[rkt.india]

3 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Navdeep Saini impressing once again.  

 

7-2-20-1 ,  with a rampaging Warner at the crease , is not easy.

 

I look forward to these games against international teams.... those bowlers who do well may have something special about them.

and on a flat pitch here both teams have scored over 4 an over, he has gone for under 3 and taking wickets.

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7 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

and on a flat pitch here both teams have scored over 4 an over, he has gone for under 3 and taking wickets.

Yes.

 

They should have had Aniket or Aaron playing in place of Dinda..... and it would have been a good test of which pacer is best for the next test cap.

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Warner gone and who takes his wicket Dinda 

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Aussies tottering at 60 for 3

 

Our pacers on fire

[msplash9]

Why  Gowtham K , did not bowl in the first innings ? He is primarily a bowler right ?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-australia-2016-17/content/current/player/424377.html