Indian Test team selection thread

[coffee_rules]

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27424717/six-batsmen-saha-pant-one-spinner-two

 

Openers: KLR, Mayank or Vihari. Vihari was a stop-gap in Aus, but he is also a viable option given KLR Test cricket form.

 

No.5: Vihari, Rohit or Rahane . Given Vihari's bowling, and to give him an extended run, it seems better for future. VC has a 2 year downturn , last 100 was 17 tests back. One more time Project Rohit in Test cricket. 

 

Spinners: Ashwin, Jadeja or Kuldeep

 

WKt-Keeper: Pant or Saha

 

Fast bowlers: Shami or Yadav

 

My team: Agarwak, KLR, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Vihari, Pant, Kuldeep, Ishant, Shami, Bumrah

 

Is the choice between Rahane or Jadeja.?

 

 

 

[cowboysfan]

1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27424717/six-batsmen-saha-pant-one-spinner-two

 

Openers: KLR, Mayank or Vihari. Vihari was a stop-gap in Aus, but he is also a viable option given KLR Test cricket form.

 

No.5: Vihari, Rohit or Rahane . Given Vihari's bowling, and to give him an extended run, it seems better for future. VC has a 2 year downturn , last 100 was 17 tests back. One more time Project Rohit in Test cricket. 

 

Spinners: Ashwin, Jadeja or Kuldeep

 

WKt-Keeper: Pant or Saha

 

Fast bowlers: Shami or Yadav

 

My team: Agarwak, KLR, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Vihari, Pant, Kuldeep, Ishant, Shami, Bumrah

 

Is the choice between Rahane or Jadeja.?

 

 

 

no need for 5 bowlers of they play vihari 

imo they need to give rahul extended playing time.

[ShoonyaSifar]

Rahul, Mayank, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane/Vihari, Pant, Jadeja, Kuldeep, Shami, Bumrah, Ishant 

 

No place for Ashwin, Saha or Rohit. Those will be regressive moves. Going by the recent trends, WI will prepare packer bouncier tracks. If it’s an out and out green track, drop Jaddu for Umesh. Time to go back to playing 5 bowlers.

[abc]

On 8/20/2019 at 7:26 PM, ShoonyaSifar said:

Rahul, Mayank, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane/Vihari, Pant, Jadeja, Kuldeep, Shami, Bumrah, Ishant 

 

No place for Ashwin, Saha or Rohit. Those will be regressive moves. Going by the recent trends, WI will prepare packer bouncier tracks. If it’s an out and out green track, drop Jaddu for Umesh. Time to go back to playing 5 bowlers.

Choosing Saha would in fact be too bold and aggressive. It is more fashionable these days among those with less tactical nous to chose a batsman who can (on paper) also act as short stop/hockey keeper and sacrifice actual wicketkeeping ability.

And lo and behold, Shastri/Kohli combo has gone with the inferior keeper. Unfortunately, keeping does not have well-developed metrics yet ...

I would be glad if Saha could still come in to the side. If it means he has to come in the way he went out in the first place, then so be it. Maybe if the West Indies pacers could bend their backs on a helpful track, who knows ... they would certainly do "proper cricket" a great service if they manage to do the unthinkable ...

Edited August 22, 2019 by abc

[jf1gp_1]

2 hours ago, abc said:

Choosing Saha would in fact be too bold and aggressive. It is more fashionable these days among those with less tactical nous to chose a batsman who can (on paper) also act as short stop/hockey keeper and sacrifice actual wicketkeeping ability.

And lo and behold, Shastri/Kohli combo has gone with the inferior keeper. Unfortunately, keeping does not have well-developed metrics yet ...

I would be glad if Saha could still come in to the side. If it means he has to come in the way he went out in the first place, then so be it. Maybe if the West Indies pacers could bend their backs on a helpful track, who knows ... they would certainly do "proper cricket" a great service if they manage to do the unthinkable ...

Saha will be 35 next month. Bold would have been to dump pant and bring in a pure keeper from domestic if we had one.  Besides pant hasn't done a thing wrong to be dropped from test. 

Also definition of proper cricket has changed. This is t20 age and that how even test cricket is played. 

[abc]

14 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Saha will be 35 next month. Bold would have been to dump pant and bring in a pure keeper from domestic if we had one.  Besides pant hasn't done a thing wrong to be dropped from test. 

Also definition of proper cricket has changed. This is t20 age and that how even test cricket is played. 

Saha can play till 40 if his peak fitness remains high enough - and it definitely is: at the moment he is one of the fittest in the national squad. Yes, he might get injured, but you always have that risk in sports. I would rather have two competent keepers rotating than one who is primarily a batsman do a half-arsed job behind the stumps - this is not park cricket where the laziest batsman keeps by default, ffs.

 

Which brings me to your next point: It is also not like there are no good wicketkeepers in domestic cricket. Akshay Wadkar of Vidarbha is one who comes to mind, who is *not* a mug with the gloves. That is the type of player selectors should be looking at, rather than batsmen who keep the same way Alex Hales "bowls" "medium pace" .

 

Ironically, T20 cricket is the one format where specialist keepers are the most conceivable, because in 20 overs time, lower order batsmen will not face many deliveries anyway. (Hampshire for example won a title by using specialist keeper Michael Bates, who played a major role keeping the run rate down by standing up to the stumps to genuine medium papers. Once tactics in T20s become more mature, we will see more examples.)

Edited August 23, 2019 by abc

[vishalvirsingh]

On 8/23/2019 at 2:52 PM, abc said:

Saha can play till 40 if his peak fitness remains high enough - and it definitely is: at the moment he is one of the fittest in the national squad. Yes, he might get injured, but you always have that risk in sports. I would rather have two competent keepers rotating than one who is primarily a batsman do a half-arsed job behind the stumps - this is not park cricket where the laziest batsman keeps by default, ffs.

 

Which brings me to your next point: It is also not like there are no good wicketkeepers in domestic cricket. Akshay Wadkar of Vidarbha is one who comes to mind, who is *not* a mug with the gloves. That is the type of player selectors should be looking at, rather than batsmen who keep the same way Alex Hales "bowls" "medium pace" .

 

Ironically, T20 cricket is the one format where specialist keepers are the most conceivable, because in 20 overs time, lower order batsmen will not face many deliveries anyway. (Hampshire for example won a title by using specialist keeper Michael Bates, who played a major role keeping the run rate down by standing up to the stumps to genuine medium papers. Once tactics in T20s become more mature, we will see more examples.)

days of kirmani ( superb keeper but average batsman) and Sadanand vishwnath are gone.

its 3d zamana...3 dimensional.....good batting, good keeping ideally, good drs support....all these count. saha is history.