Yoda-esque Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Vivekananda would never be called a chaddi at any point of time in India. The name belongs to people like adityanath' date=' sadhvis and others of their ilk in the rss, vhp and bajrang dal. Vivekananda is like another Indian icon like sardar patel and bose the rss is trying to steal. Better stick to godse and savarkar. Bloody outrageous to repeatedly equate vivekananda with filth like these.[/quote'] The fault with all religions like Christianity is that they have one set of rules for all. But Hindu religion is suited to all grades of religious aspiration and progress. It contains all the ideals in their perfect form. For example, the ideal of Shanta or blessedness is to be found in Vasishtha; that of love in Krishna; that of duty in Rama and Sita; and that of intellect in Shukadeva. Study the characters of these and of other ideal men. Adopt one which suits you best. -vivekananda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temujin Khaghan Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 when i said this in another thread, mulughonto refuted... Quote Originally Posted by Temujin Khaghan View Post but one thing you guys shouldnt forget is that, if Bose was indeed alive and came back to India, he would tried to establish a communist dictatorship. atleast nehru was a fabian socialist, which believes in gradually bringing a country's citizens to equality. Bose was a full on communist. but one rare thing in Bose not found in communists of that era was that, he was a complete believer of Hinduism and worshipped hindu gods. this is one quality not found in other communists of that era like mn roy, jayaprakash narayan etc.. so if there was one guy who both left professionally and right personally, then it is Bose. ---- Mulughonto: Not true. Bose believed in phased democracy. he was a democracy proponent who believed that democracy is dysfunctinal with a large illiterate populace. Cant disagree with that, personally. Communist nations do have a stunning 15 year span of making literacy go from sub 30% to over 90%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 “ Shivaji was the greatest Hindu king that India had produced within the last thousand years; one who was the very incarnation of lord Siva, about whom prophecies were given out long before he was born; and his advent was eagerly expected by all the great souls and saints of Maharashtra as the deliverer of the Hindus from the hands of the Mlecchas, and as one who succeeded in the reestablishment of Dharma which had been trampled underfoot by the depredations of the devastating hordes of the Moghals ” - Swami Vivekananda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeautifulGame Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Meh Rajendra chola was the greatest Hindu king produced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Meh Rajendra chola was the greatest Hindu king produced Lol, you seem to have missed the point completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Different times, different ideas. Like I said, Swami Vivekananda would be called a chaddi today. What is undisputed though is that Nehru- Gandhi haven't done a good job all these years The closest we have in the 2000's is Ravishankar of Art of Living,(who is mostly a proponent of yoga/meditation techniques ...) has been labelled a lot more than chaddi Indira was no less a dictator during those emergency years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 The closest we have in the 2000's is Ravishankar of Art of Living' date='(who is mostly a proponent of yoga/meditation techniques ...) has been labelled a lot more than chaddi[/quote'] Swami Vivekananda's quotes make the likes of Savarkar look tame in comparison :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 If we go by hearsay then Gandhi seem to have said that best thing to happen to India would be to be ruled by a dictator like Hazrat Umar. Can be a headlined as "Gandhi wanted Islamic Khalifa dictatorship in India" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeautifulGame Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Lol' date=' you seem to have missed the point completely[/quote'] Yeah bringing Aurangazeb to justify RSS we get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Yeah bringing Aurangazeb to justify RSS we get it More propoganda by you..like your post in another thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Yeah bringing Aurangazeb to justify RSS we get it He is talking about what Vivekananda said. Not RSS. :cantstop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 He is talking about what Vivekananda said. Not RSS. :cantstop: Obsession wont go so easily :cantstop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Yeah bringing Aurangazeb to justify RSS we get it And now you have moved even more far away.Comprehension is not one of your strengths I gather and that's OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amiret Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 That was 1935 , no second world war or horrors of Nazism, fascisms.many countries at that time were experimenting with different systems fascism , communism , democracy. 1944 . " In a speech to students of Tokyo University in 1944, Netaji said India needs to have a philosophy that "should be a synthesis between national socialism (Nazism) and communism". Netaji was a well read man . Did he never listen to the speeches or read the demented writings of hitler or mussolini ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amiret Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 "The most troubling aspect of Bose's presence in Nazi Germany is not military or political but rather ethical. His alliance with the most genocidal regime in history poses serious dilemmas precisely because of his popularity and his having made a lifelong career of fighting the 'good cause'. How did a man who started his political career at the feet of Gandhi end up with Hitler, Mussolini, and Tojo? Even in the case of Mussolini and Tojo, the gravity of the dilemma pales in comparison to that posed by his association with Hitler and the Nazi leadership." Romain Hayes : Subhas Chandra Bose in Nazi Germany: Politics, Intelligence and Propaganda 1941–1943 " The most disturbing issue, all too often ignored, is that in the many articles, minutes, memorandums, telegrams, letters, plans, and broadcasts Bose left behind in Germany, he did not express the slightest concern or sympathy for the millions who died in the concentration camps. Not one of his Berlin wartime associates or colleagues ever quotes him expressing any indignation. Not even when the horrors of Auschwitz and its satellite camps were exposed to the world upon being liberated by Soviet troops in early 1945, revealing publicly for the first time the genocidal nature of the Nazi regime, did Bose react. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Aha..more stories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detonator Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 “ Shivaji was the greatest Hindu king that India had produced within the last thousand years; one who was the very incarnation of lord Siva, about whom prophecies were given out long before he was born; and his advent was eagerly expected by all the great souls and saints of Maharashtra as the deliverer of the Hindus from the hands of the Mlecchas, and as one who succeeded in the reestablishment of Dharma which had been trampled underfoot by the depredations of the devastating hordes of the Moghals ” - Swami Vivekananda TFS. People never realize that RSS is just echoing Swami Vivekanantha and Ramakrishna Paramahamsa most of the times. Problem is with few loonies, but thats just a common problem for many organizations/ party. Except congi/aap becoz the leaders are the biggest loonies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detonator Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Aha..more stories Reposting Post # 5 :agree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Most of the history we hear about are BS lol... Even in this day and age there are lot of misinformation n and people believe it too. Think about those period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeautifulGame Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 And now you have moved even more far away.Comprehension is not one of your strengths I gather and that's OK. Yaar i get it.U are saying view the person and decisions through the prism of the era and environment he lived .I agree with that .Bose did what he thought was good for India at the time.Even most of the western world were unaware of the extent of the crimes of Hitler till Nuremberg Trials And no in any era he would have been revered by Hindus .He promoted Hinduism peacefully and asserted its superiority through knowledge not by violence or intolerance . And i made the RSS comparison becoz u used the same example for Godse as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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