Catch Success rate of Wk since 2018

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

Saha 89% and Pant 87%...... and people talk about pant's keeping as if he is parthiv patel 

[zen]

Saha, the specialist keeper, should have had better numbers than what he has produced. 

Edited July 12, 2020 by zen

[Forever Indian]

Seems like useful stats on surface, but what constitutes a drop catch? Is going for an impossible catch and dropping it counted Vs not going for the catch at all meaning it doesn't count?

 

It is very difficult to put actual numbers for keeper drop catches as it is very subjective. That's why actual qualitative analysis on skills is better.

[Gollum]

Saha goes for impossible catches, anyone who saw the home tests against RSA/BD will tell the same.

 

When Bobby Fischer refused to defend his title against the upcoming prodigy Karpov in 1975 the Russian said "Only he who never plays never loses".  You can apply that statement here, he who never goes for tough catches never drops any. Butler, Bairstow, Kock, Liton are bang average keepers and don't tell me I should take Sarfaraz's numbers seriously. 

 

How do you define a drop? For Saha the ball landing in 2nd slip, leg slip, FSL, SP may count as chances if anyone has bothered following our test team since 2015. 

 

Same CricViz came up with this analysis in late 2019. 

 

 

So CricViz KMKB 

[Gollum]

44 minutes ago, zen said:

Saha, the specialist keeper, should have had better numbers than what he has produced. 

Nah those are just stupid numbers, unless they define what constitutes a drop I can only see them trying to build an agenda. 

[Gollum]

Unfortunately no quantifiable way to measure performance of keepers: how to define drop, how to take into account conditions (day 4-5 keeping against Ash/Jaddu in India is a challenge that has no equal), whether we monitor how cleanly the keeper collects otherwise, extras because of keeper's shoddiness, also Saha will have a different reach compared to that fatso from Afghanistan, how do we compare their stats?

 

Our eyes are the best option we have. Let mota Sarfraz (or anyone else for that matter) take this kind of catch in his dream, then we will talk.

94% my ass

A real pity BCCI doesn't do a montage of his GOAT keeping, any good cricket related video on YT or twitter is taken down. The bastards should learn from CA. 

Edited July 12, 2020 by Gollum

[zen]

18 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Nah those are just stupid numbers, unless they define what constitutes a drop I can only see them trying to build an agenda. 

What agenda could they have? Whatever the metrics, they do not change from keeper to keeper

[Gollum]

1 minute ago, zen said:

What agenda could they have? Whatever the metrics, they do not change from keeper to keeper

If the metric is contact with gloves, not attempting half chances or tough ones will make a keeper look more impressive than he actually is. Since 2018 I have never seen Sarfraz attempting any take that doesn't land in his gloves, he has lost the ability to move laterally, a couple of metres either side of his bodyframe and he doesn't bother 10/10 times. That 94% is a dead giveaway that there is something fishy with those numbers. 

[zen]

6 minutes ago, Gollum said:

If the metric is contact with gloves, not attempting half chances or tough ones will make a keeper look more impressive than he actually is. Since 2018 I have never seen Sarfraz attempting any take that doesn't land in his gloves, he has lost the ability to move laterally, a couple of metres either side of his bodyframe and he doesn't bother 10/10 times. That 94% is a dead giveaway that there is something fishy with those numbers. 

Likes of Buttler have 100% though!

Edited July 12, 2020 by zen

[Clarke]

Yeah right, Saha drops 1 out of 10 

 

I recall some easy drops when Eng toured India in 2016, but not since that time.