Vijy Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, The Outsider said: Yeah, nothing concrete to support it except anecdotal evidence. Unlike Warne (for whom a similar thing is said in the context of Australia), Shastri didn't really captain the Bombay Ranji team regularly either. In his favor, at least in tests, he used to play the game according to the situation like not throwing it away before breaks or being able to accelerate when the situation demanded. But that would largely be because he was from the Bombay school of batting and not necessarily related to any tactical genius on his part. He certainly could/should have played tests for a few more years but in those days tests and ODI sides were pretty much the same and his ODI game had really gone down the drain when he was dropped. It was a torture to watch him bat in the '92 WC and he was responsible for the losses against Australia and England by batting like a snail before he was dropped for the rest of the tournament. This was mostly how Shastri batted in general. Link to comment
SK_IH Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 8 minutes ago, The Outsider said: Yeah, nothing concrete to support it except anecdotal evidence. Unlike Warne (for whom a similar thing is said in the context of Australia), Shastri didn't really captain the Bombay Ranji team regularly either. In his favor, at least in tests, he used to play the game according to the situation like not throwing it away before breaks or being able to accelerate when the situation demanded. But that would largely be because he was from the Bombay school of batting and not necessarily related to any tactical genius on his part. He certainly could/should have played tests for a few more years but in those days tests and ODI sides were pretty much the same and his ODI game had really gone down the drain when he was dropped. It was a torture to watch him bat in the '92 WC and he was responsible for the losses against Australia and England by batting like a snail before he was dropped for the rest of the tournament. i think i am getting more n more convinced him being a great captain must have started because the way he is generally ,very positive and in your face ,people might have confused that with captaincy more i see kohli more i think kohli is pretty much same that why the mutual liking Link to comment
beetle Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 If Tendulkar is backing him so strongly,it is unlikely he will be snubbed again unless he skypes his interview again with a bear mug in hand wearing a tutu shirt and coconuts on his chest. Tendulkar supported him last time too but dada and vvs voted for kumble...and that experiment failed badly. Link to comment
The Outsider Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, Vijy said: This was mostly how Shastri batted in general. As an opener in ODIs, yes. Which was okay if there was a Srikkanth at the other end. But Srikkanth himself was finished by the time of the '92 WC so Shastri's innings started to hurt even more. He was decent in the lower middle order positions in general, nothing like Kapil obviously, but would score at a fair clip for those time. Link to comment
maniac Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, The Outsider said: As an opener in ODIs, yes. Which was okay if there was a Srikkanth at the other end. But Srikkanth himself was finished by the time of the '92 WC so Shastri's innings started to hurt even more. He was decent in the lower middle order positions in general, nothing like Kapil obviously, but would score at a fair clip for those time. I remember him charging down to Donald and co without much result ,in his last series in 92 ...This was on indias tour to SA when he was playing in the middle-lower middle order.... didn't do too well but looked like he changed his game but by then it was too late...it all ended. Edited June 28, 2017 by maniac Link to comment
Sloane84 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 37 minutes ago, The Outsider said: it was a torture to watch him bat in the '92 WC and he was responsible for the losses against Australia and England by batting like a snail before he was dropped for the rest of the tournament. Shiv Chanderpaul has said that "Ravi Shastri is my hero". Link to comment
Vijy Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 33 minutes ago, Sloane84 said: Shiv Chanderpaul has said that "Ravi Shastri is my hero". I wonder where he said that. Chanders was obviously much more versatile than Shastri. Link to comment
The Outsider Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 35 minutes ago, maniac said: I remember him charging down to Donald and co without much result ,in his last series in 92 ...This was on indias tour to SA when he was playing in the middle-lower middle order.... didn't do too well but looked like he changed his game but by then it was too late...it all ended. He also had a large fan following among girls because he was one of the first Indian cricketers to put in dives on the field. It's another matter he used to dive after the ball was already past him. maniac 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 hour ago, beetle said: If Tendulkar is backing him so strongly,it is unlikely he will be snubbed again unless he skypes his interview again with a bear mug in hand wearing a tutu shirt and coconuts on his chest. Tendulkar supported him last time too but dada and vvs voted for kumble...and that experiment failed badly. ok that was brutal, a mental image that i can not forget. beetle 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Vilander said: ok that was brutal, a mental image that i can not forget. Hey he was in Bangkok...could have been worse beetle 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 hour ago, beetle said: If Tendulkar is backing him so strongly,it is unlikely he will be snubbed again unless he skypes his interview again with a bear mug in hand wearing a tutu shirt and coconuts on his chest. Tendulkar supported him last time too but dada and vvs voted for kumble...and that experiment failed badly. This time, he will probably be selected even if he shows up "au natural" Tendu_10 1 Link to comment
Sloane84 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 14 minutes ago, Vijy said: I wonder where he said that. Chanders was obviously much more versatile than Shastri. I was joking Actually Shastri was a good counter to several other attacking players - Srikant, Vengsarkar, Azhar etc. Link to comment
Vilander Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 8 minutes ago, maniac said: Hey he was in Bangkok...could have been worse no i dont want to imagine.. this comes to mind..lol. Year One holy or Holies. Link to comment
Vijy Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Just now, Sloane84 said: I was joking Actually Shastri was a good counter to several other attacking players - Srikant, Vengsarkar, Azhar etc. It was fine, if some of them were firing. Otherwise, he could really bog the team down. His batting in 87 WC was an example of that. Link to comment
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