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Can Shreyas Iyer do well at International level?


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He is not Intl material, doesn't have the technique to survive in overseas conditions, also looks like a mediocre fielder, cant bowl, doesn't add any value apart from batting, though there are batters who are much better than him. KL Rahul, Manish Pandey,or  even Unmukt Chand are twice more talented than this "Curd Rice".

Posted
1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

Problem is Iyer is no #5. There is no vacancy in top order. 

There is, and thsts number . All these guys - Pant, Rahul, Pandey or Iyer shouldn’t bat any lower than 4. That means only one of them can olay, then so be it.

 

So since Rahul isn’t in the squad, then Iyer if needs to okay then should bat at 4 instead of Rahane.

 

Any lower, they are too raw. Even Rahul or anyone would struggle at 5 to play the finisher role if required.

 

 

Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said:

Unfortunately he looks out of place. When batsmen like these click, they look good - like Sehwag. If it doesn't come out well it looks ugly. Pandey is no different.

Pandey is Rahane's equivalent of Test player in LOIs, not pleasing to the eyes but will get the job done. After his century in Aus, he should've been given longer run. Besides he's a gun fielder. 

Edited by Lannister
Posted
2 hours ago, Straight Drive said:

Really, did he smile after dropping a catch. A good fielder would have been very disappointed.

It happened everytime he dropped a catch, was ridiculous.

Posted

He actually looked ok . How can judge a guy after first game overseas for India . Icf makes crazy calls after one game lol

 

if has 3 games in a row can see much better 

 

guy rightly got chance as scores runs in fc cricket and India A . Looked good and I think neeed 3 games to see more , a proper run . 

 

ps what’s the losers average in odis .... o wait not that hopeless then 

 

 

Posted
5 minutes ago, King Tendulkar said:

He actually looked ok . How can judge a guy after first game overseas for India . Icf makes crazy calls after one game lol

 

if has 3 games in a row can see much better 

 

guy rightly got chance as scores runs in fc cricket and India A . Looked good and I think neeed 3 games to see more , a proper run . 

 

ps what’s the losers average in odis .... o wait not that hopeless then 

 

 

One can understand not scoring or bowling badly in one match. But catching also needs experience of 50 matches? Really ?

Posted
2 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

One can understand not scoring or bowling badly in one match. But catching also needs experience of 50 matches? Really ?

You want to judge his fielding by one international game? He was excellent, yes excellent in IPL 2017 through out the tournament as a fielder.

 

Someone like Jadhav as a fielr can be judged as he has played plenty of games for India but you can’t judge Iyer’s fielding just by what he did in one game.

 

 

Posted
3 hours ago, Lannister said:

I just don't know how Iyer managed to get into the mix ahead of Rahul and Pandey. Those two deserved a longer run and have better techniques when compared to Iyer.

I feel like Kohli has got something against Pandey, since those two has played in the same U19 team. He needs to curb this childish attitude and look from the team's POV. This constant chopping is not going to help in the long run. 

Exactly, no 2 series haa gone after ct17 when we had someone consistently bat at no 4 or no 5. In every series new player has been tried. Main culprit are rahane in middle order and dhoni as finisher. We cant blame younsters until they have proper run on ceryain positio. Also as someone said we should try player with grit and determination like kohli in midfle order and not flash in the pan type.

Posted

@VVS Laxman and @Straight Drive

 

He is actually quite athetic. People have their bad days on the field.

 

Check this out from IPL, crazy effort. This is not fluke. You habe to make special effort to

save this.

 

http://www.iplt20.com/video/105701/shreyas-iyer-s-acrobatics-saves-boundary 

 

 

And then check out this catch

http://www.iplt20.com/video/94839/m21-srh-vs-dd-vivo-perfect-catch-of-the-match-shreyas-iyer

 

Posted
1 minute ago, King Tendulkar said:

Kohli still awful at catching lol

Yes, Virat dropped lot of catches in slips in test. But he covered those drops by scoring 100+ or 200+.

 

In ODI Virat doesn't drops as he is not mostly in slips in most part of the bowling innings. he has not dropped any cacth this series. And even if he dropped the odd one he has scored 393 runs. So he has that to cover the fielding lapses that he may do in ODI.

Posted

One game . Jeez . Nerves , tension etc does not allows guys to show worth 

 

thats we always say give a run of games to find out more 

 

lad shoudl play rest of series , then we in much better position to see . Also bat him 4 or 5 

 

earnt place on merit with runs in domestic and A tours . So now let’s see can deliver 

 

did well v Sri Lanka 

Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

You want to judge his fielding by one international game? He was excellent, yes excellent in IPL 2017 through out the tournament as a fielder.

 

Someone like Jadhav as a fielr can be judged as he has played plenty of games for India but you can’t judge Iyer’s fielding just by what he did in one game.

 

 

I never saw him much in field. Do not watch all IPL matches. Yesterday i could watch the full match and i saw it. I have nowhere said he dropped catches in previous matches, what i am saying is his drop cost us this match. He has played 4 matches for India and already lost 1 on basis of his fielding. 

 

imo Manish Pandey should have been given a chance. 

Edited by Straight Drive
Posted
8 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

I never saw him much in field. Do not watch all IPL matches. Yesterday i could watch the full match and i saw it. I have nowhere said he dropped catches in previous matches, what i am saying is his drop cost us this match. He has played 4 matches for India and already lost 1 on basis of his fielding. 

 

imo Manish Pandey should have been given a chance. 

And that is what I am saying, a fielding drop catch shouldn’t be a reason to drop a player.

 

A drop vatch is a drop vstch, whether it cost us or not. Our top players like Kohli etc drop catches too in tests. Sometimes they get lucky that batsman doesn’t go on to score big, else every drop catch is a drop catch, whether it cost us or not.

 

 

So why should we jusge a youngster dropping a catch and costing the game.

 

Its part of the game. For that he can’t be dropped.

 

I like Pandey as an option also but I will tell what our problem is.

 

All Pandey, Iyer, Pant, KL Rahul all are still only good for number 4 position.  Playimg them at 5 or lower will be unfair even to them as most of them are still raw and won’t be able to hit from ball 1 at times and will likely get out cheaply.

 

We can play any of them at 4 I am fine, any lower than 4, basically means its going to be hard for all and that we shouldn’t judge them a lot as most times they will be coming after 35th over.

 

 

 

Posted
14 minutes ago, King Tendulkar said:

One game . Jeez . Nerves , tension etc does not allows guys to show worth 

 

thats we always say give a run of games to find out more 

 

lad shoudl play rest of series , then we in much better position to see . Also bat him 4 or 5 

 

earnt place on merit with runs in domestic and A tours . So now let’s see can deliver 

 

did well v Sri Lanka 

Fair enough, it's not the end of the road for him. He can prove us all wrong. For that the  management should give him a fair run.

Posted
16 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

@VVS Laxman and @Straight Drive

 

He is actually quite athetic. People have their bad days on the field.

 

Check this out from IPL, crazy effort. This is not fluke. You habe to make special effort to

save this.

 

http://www.iplt20.com/video/105701/shreyas-iyer-s-acrobatics-saves-boundary 

 

 

And then check out this catch

http://www.iplt20.com/video/94839/m21-srh-vs-dd-vivo-perfect-catch-of-the-match-shreyas-iyer

 

He may have taken excellent catches in past, however it does not has any impact whatsoever on yesterdays match. What he dropped yesterday was a normal catch, slightly tougher than a dolly at this level and how he fielded in yesterdays match had more impact than how he fielded in past matches.

Posted
8 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

And that is what I am saying, a fielding drop catch shouldn’t be a reason to drop a player.

 

A drop vatch is a drop vstch, whether it cost us or not. Our top players like Kohli etc drop catches too in tests. Sometimes they get lucky that batsman doesn’t go on to score big, else every drop catch is a drop catch, whether it cost us or not.

 

 

So why should we jusge a youngster dropping a catch and costing the game.

 

Its part of the game. For that he can’t be dropped.

 

I like Pandey as an option also but I will tell what our problem is.

 

All Pandey, Iyer, Pant, KL Rahul all are still only good for number 4 position.  Playimg them at 5 or lower will be unfair even to them as most of them are still raw and won’t be able to hit from ball 1 at times and will likely get out cheaply.

 

We can play any of them at 4 I am fine, any lower than 4, basically means its going to be hard for all and that we shouldn’t judge them a lot as most times they will be coming after 35th over.

 

 

 

Versatility in batting order is important. At least in positions 4 to 6. Yes, middle order batters should not be made to open, but surely they have to possess that much ability that they can adapt to 4,5,6,7 positions. 

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