How do you rate Virat after this SA series?

[Khota]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

how on earth are u cursing them when ur urself were calling for same team selection infact worst

U wanted india to open with dhawan n rohit or rahane 

 

Kohli n shastri did the same blunder by playing white ball cricketers in red ball cricket n ur endorsing the same , so how come they are idiots 

 

ye doglapanti kyun

They are idiots because they dropped Dhawan. They were idiots for playing Ashwin. Thet were idiots for playing Vijay. They were idots for selecting Rahul. They were idiots for not playing two spinners. I can go on and on. This SA team is not that good. There was plenty of stupidity all around. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

14 hours ago, Khota said:

They are idiots because they dropped Dhawan. They were idiots for playing Ashwin. Thet were idiots for playing Vijay. They were idots for selecting Rahul. They were idiots for not playing two spinners. I can go on and on. This SA team is not that good. There was plenty of stupidity all around. 

So u didnt wanted vijay, Rahul, Pandya, ashwin........adhi team to aisi hi bahar kr di . Rohit ne to pure tour pe 1 din run bnaye 

What playing xi wud u have gone for ????

[Khota]

4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

So u didnt wanted vijay, Rahul, Pandya, ashwin........adhi team to aisi hi bahar kr di . Rohit ne to pure tour pe 1 din run bnaye 

What playing xi wud u have gone for ????

For the first two tests Rohit was better than half of the established batsman. He looked better than Pujara to me. He has much higher ceiling than so called othe batsman.

 

I would have gone for two spinners. Ashwin has not jack since a while. Now he wants to bowl leg spin.

I would have parthiv as a wkt kpr.

I would have opened with Rahane/Rohit/Dhawan.

 

This was a weak SA team and India should have wiped them 3-0 or as a minimum 2-1. No excuses.

[Ankit_sharma03]

25 minutes ago, Khota said:

For the first two tests Rohit was better than half of the established batsman. He looked better than Pujara to me. He has much higher ceiling than so called othe batsman.

 

I would have gone for two spinners. Ashwin has not jack since a while. Now he wants to bowl leg spin.

I would have parthiv as a wkt kpr.

I would have opened with Rahane/Rohit/Dhawan.

 

This was a weak SA team and India should have wiped them 3-0 or as a minimum 2-1. No excuses.

we only took 2 spinners in SA and u dnt wanna play ashwin.....which other spinner in sqaud was their to play 

 

So this wud be ur batting linup i assume

 

Dhawan

Rohit/Rahane

Pujara

Kohli

Rohit/rahane

Parthiv

Jadeja 

one more spinner s- ashwin since he was the only option in 11

 

[Khota]

5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

we only took 2 spinners in SA and u dnt wanna play ashwin.....which other spinner in sqaud was their to play 

 

So this wud be ur batting linup i assume

 

Dhawan

Rohit/Rahane

Pujara

Kohli

Rohit/rahane

Parthiv

Jadeja 

one more spinner s- ashwin since he was the only option in 11

 

Batting - That is precisely what I would have.

Should have taken 3 spinners. Ashwin has been a no show for a while.

[vishalvirsingh]

As much respect I gave to Sachin as a Batsman...i always knew sachin was not a good captain or leader.

 

if sachin scores a 10 on 10 in batting , i give Kohli a 9. sachin was a better bowler than Kohli too.

Kohli scores a 9 on 10 in fielding and Sachin scored a 4 on 10...Seriously Average Fielder.

 

but on all other fronts Kohli is way ahead of Sachin, like COnfidence, Captaincy, Strategy,Intelligence and motivating Others.

[kruiser]

7 hours ago, Khota said:

For the first two tests Rohit was better than half of the established batsman. He looked better than Pujara to me. He has much higher ceiling than so called othe batsman.

 

I would have gone for two spinners. Ashwin has not jack since a while. Now he wants to bowl leg spin.

I would have parthiv as a wkt kpr.

I would have opened with Rahane/Rohit/Dhawan.

 

This was a weak SA team and India should have wiped them 3-0 or as a minimum 2-1. No excuses.

Parthiv ahead of Saha??? Not sure if serious.  A good wk (and Saha is among the best in the world) is worth 1.5 batsmen. Imagine dropping Hamla & Elgar instead of them being out under 5 runs in 1st test 1st inning.  Saha should be a certainty if fit. 

[gakgupta]

9 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said:

As much respect I gave to Sachin as a Batsman...i always knew sachin was not a good captain or leader.

 

if sachin scores a 10 on 10 in batting , i give Kohli a 9. sachin was a better bowler than Kohli too.

Kohli scores a 9 on 10 in fielding and Sachin scored a 4 on 10...Seriously Average Fielder.

 

but on all other fronts Kohli is way ahead of Sachin, like COnfidence, Captaincy, Strategy,Intelligence and motivating Others.

add one more aspect....

when your back is against wall, i would prefer Kohli over sachin

[Vijy]

On 2/25/2018 at 12:56 AM, Gollum said:

Firmly cemented his position as no 2 behind Smith in this era. For the time being let us desist from placing these 2 above retired ATGs because we don't know how their careers will end. Guys like SRT/Ponting/Viru had a dip in their later years while Sanga/Clarke/Inzi pushed up their stocks in their latter years. I expect Smith to have a dip, lot depends on how he times his retirement, whether on a high in 2023-24 or kicking and screaming like Ponting at an advanced age. Kohli may do better post 34-35 but Indian ATGs (bar Sunny, Dada) have a bad habit of not knowing when to quit. As things stand both these 2 will retire as ATGs no matter how much they decline. Root and KW IMO shouldn't figure in these discussions for the time being. 

 

I am assuming OP meant batting and not captaincy because that opens a can of worms and irrespective of recent results Kohli has more negative points than his bhakts would like us imagine, starting with his absurd selection policies. With the bat he still needs to have 1 good England tour, 2-3 quality knocks (by quality I don't mean breezy 20s and 30s) on raging turners and a good WC, esp in KO stages. These 2 coming years will be an acid test for him because if he misses the bus here, he may never redeem himself in 2022-23 cycle because of age/injuries/form etc. He is in his peak age and if he doesn't strike gold now he will never be comparable to Smith in any serious cricket discussion. I am sure he will give a few quality performances on raging turners at some point simply because he will get more opportunities there. 

 

If I were to summarize:

 

T20s...> GOAT

 

ODIs...> Top 5 of all time, closer to 5 than 1. Unless he rectifies his WC and KO/finals records he isn't getting anywhere close to the top irrespective of how he ends stats wise. Bilaterals have lost significance in the current era, most teams field their 2nd/3rd choice teams and in general ODI cricket is a format losing relevance. WCs and to a much lesser extent CT/Asia Cup are the only things worth playing for. 

 

Tests...> Not an ATG yet but an Indian ATG nonetheless, behind VVS in my list now. 

Great post as always. The three factors you identified are the ones he needs to fix: KOs in WCs, Eng Tests and on turners.